I don't think there's a book named "A Tea Bagger." Duh!

I would say and angry democrat tossed the book, but we all know they don't read. (IE, see health care bill)

Pictures are always worth 1,000 words. Here we have someone expressing obvious anger toward a president who is oblivious to it.

The radical left Democrats are just as angry with Obama as the right. That was probably a Democrat"throwing the book" at Obama.

Too bad it wasn't Obama's book "The Audacity of Hope".

You mean like when China bought Clinton????

Its prolly the guy who threw the shoe at bush...... Guess they thought the book would fly straighter....

Too bad it wasn't the shoe thrower, he had much better aim. Bush at least had to duck... Obama clearly isn't prepared to react.

W. Goin,

R. U. Goin crazy, the entire democratic congress and the president admitted none of them had read the health care bill. The democrats must think you liberals are really stupid, if foreign countries were going to try and buy an election they would be doing it for the democrats not for the republicans. Most foreign countries love Obama as president and they love the democratic congresses policies. It is the American companies that Obama and the democrats are afraid of. Foreign countries would love for Cap and Trade to be passed because it would make us more reliant on their oil and send more jobs overseas.

W. Goin, why would you call people names? It makes you seem inept. Then again, the Tea Party has read the Constitution, which is why they are trying to save it... and by saying they don't read, makes YOU seem like... Never mind, but the initials I.B. come to mind.

oh, I recognize that book...Politics for Dummies, only Obama is the one that threw it over his shoulder

Ozzi-502718

I guess that means that Obama is doing well when both extremes are angry with him. I like the middle ground, myself so, for the time being, I'm still with Obama because those against him are too extreme in one direction or the other.

The book title:

"How To Screw The American People in Two Short Years, or THEIR MONEY BACK"- Authors: Pelosi, Reid, DNC with interviews from Rangle and Waters!

The book was thrown by neither a conservative nor a liberal - whatever those terms mean today. It was thrown by a rank idiot.

Run on with silly posts, school yard taunts, and ignorant baiting. Anyone and everyone who loves this country, who wishes to take the role of world leader, take two steps back. Hang your head in shame and sorrow, because this is the picture that the world will see of the United States.

To those who approve of this shameful behavior, I challenge you to provide a single valid reason why this type of behavior is acceptable in this country.

Astonished-655682

"I find it incredibly odd how people who are in favor of the Constitution and fiscal responsibility are now considered 'too extreme'!"

I just wonder where your high horse was at when the constitution was being desicrated under Bush and the budget for the US was thrown out the window at the benefit of Halliburton. Its not the sincerity of the complainers that I find so hypocritical its the timing. Where is your arguments against the Iraq war? Are you one of the millions who voted for Bush after that boondoggle started?

David,

Obama runs around the world apologizing for the USA, whats the difference? He gave up his own respect

Amen to the Teabagger. "Give me smaller government, just don't touch my Social Security and Medicare".

W.Goin; are you the pot calling the kettle black here?

Yes, definitely a Teapublican.

SS and Medicare should be privatized.

The government has not touched one thing that hasn't gone to crap, these two included.

The private sector knows how to run a business, the government has never made 1 dollar ever, ever.

It's our money we pay them so they can waste it and buy million dollar yachts while parking them in certain areas so they don't have to pay in... until they get caught... ((coughkerrywatersrangle))

Patrick

SS and Medicare should be privatized

I'm going to add an interesting twist to this discussion. Politicians on BOTH sides of the fence have been raiding the SS trust fund since the good old days of Lyndon Johnson. They (BOTH sides here ... ) have a real vested interest in all of us continually being PO'd at each other about this. Because we continue to fight to the death on ANY kind of change THEY keep having that non-budgetary slush fund, if you will, to spend from. You don't see them cutting THEIR benefits or THEIR COLA adjustments. I'm not just talking about those so called 'elected rats' either. It's government employees and elected officials.

So ... when you get PO'd at someone who talks about privatizing or searching for some way to make SS longer term sustainable, how about responding with ... "maybe what we have would last longer if we EARNED interest on it instead of PAYING interest on the debt that we create by the unfunded mandate?" How about we stop raiding the trust fund?

Just an idea ...

I usually enjoy the vine, but for someone that has no party affiliation, no religious preference and no agenda these boards are losing it's appeal. When ideas are exchanged and information shared it is consructive and I can justify using my time to participate. But with what this has come to I just can't justify it any more.

Intelligent, well read individuals do not think that calling each other venomous names, repeating the petty political party rhetoric, using race as a catch all when you do not agree and following a party line that you neither know or understand is the correct way to facilitate the forward movement of our country.

Before you post again, ask your self is what I am about to post :

1- is it worth while

2- coherent

3- rel event

4- something I understand

5- can I post it without being offensive

6- can I post it with out vulgar language

7- can I post it without calling people childish, silly names

8- can I defend this statement in fact and not just with insults and party spew.

9-with out slandering a party or person

10- if this was the last thing I ever wrote would I be proud to be remembered for it.

People, off handed comments, name calling, foul language, lack of knowledge and petty insults do not make you appear intelligent, just narrow minded puppets of the party and that is truly pathetic.

I wish you that chose to try ,good luck,

I wish you that chose not to would just go home

basedrum

Where is your arguments against the Iraq war? Are you one of the millions who voted for Bush after that boondoggle started?

Aside from pointing out that the resolution that enabled it was co-sponsored by Dick Gephart (D) and voted for by 82 Dems in the House and 29 in the Senate that was split 50 - 50. I hate re-revealing to you revisionists that if they weren't in favor they shouldn't have voted. It's a Constitutional thing you know ...

But hey ... You've been in charge for two years. It took only 13 months to start the War with a split party Legislature. With the small minority of Repubs you could have walked over them in a heartbeat if you weren't to busy spending your Grandkid's money on every liberal sacred cow.

People have figured you guys out.

Too bad it wasn't the "War and Peace" book hurled at him.

The book title:

"How To Screw The American People in Two Short Years, or THEIR MONEY BACK"- Authors: Pelosi, Reid, DNC with interviews from Rangle and Waters!

Patrick, apparently you havent read the official numbers on debt and deficits from the US treasury dept. They reveal that about 80% of the current national debt was run up under JUST the last 3 gop presidents. President Obama is responsible for less than $2T of that, most of it inherited!!!

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm

And BTW, it was all DELIBERATE--- in order to eventually create a budget crisis ( which they have) so the gop could present cutting/eliminating/privatizing SS, Medicare etc as the ONLY solution!! ( which they are actively talking about) http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10054/1037783-109.stm

Wasnt it patriotic of the gop to play russian roulette with this country's financial future and the American way of life????? It wouldnt shock me if they allowed this awful recession to happen either!

THAT'S why the gop should be DEFEATED! They're a DANGER to what America is and should be!

Tom, Figures never lie; but goverment liers always figure!!!!

Patrick-1112710. You are in denial. Previous presidents in both parties have had a hand in the financial holocaust we are in but none so much as GW BUSH. What people don't get is that when two wars and a Medicare pharma medicine deal involving several trilion dollars are inacted without any money to support them it is a raising of taxes. How else are we going to pay for them? Those are gifts to you by Bush. Obama nor God can fix them overnight what took many years to happen. If the Republicans win the house and senate, you will see us go all the way down the drain.

I realize you have to be angry at some one but it would say more about you if you got it right.

OB should just be happy it wasn't a shoe.

Pippo,

You're right. Beyond that, in the last thirty years we've seen taxes cut again, and again. Voters now fail to recognize just how much taxes have already BEEN cut, expect more, and politicians will continue to make that promse - never mind what happens to the deficit. Tax cuts are an easy sell in a political campaign. No one stops to ask if it's really the right thing to do.

Gee Tom,

Was it patriotic when Carter signed the CRA into law or when Clinton re-ignited it, or when Obama used it to cause the housing collapse that started the sinking economy?

My gosh Pippo - how blind can you be? Maybe you should do your research on how much money was actually spent during the Bush administration. The figures are all avaliable at CBO.gov. You might find that your assertations are all incorrect.

The really bad part of what Pippo expounds on is the fact that most democrats actually believe what he says. Democrats feed other democrats the same lies and before you know it, it appears to them as if it is truth... but truth, it is not. Look up the numbers. Take into account inflation and you will find that Obama has by far signed off more spending than Bush did in his 8 years as president. Even with the democrat controlled congress starting in 06. The war wasn't as costly as you democrats claim as political fodder. Besides, Obama is spending on the war too, but you give him a pass.

Hypocracy, inaccurate information and the perpetual spinning of lies is getting old liberals.

Was the book about shoes??

At a learned person you throw a book. At a dunce you throw a shoe.

Robin: I was referencing the shoe that the reporter in Iraq threw at Bush. I think that is the fastest I ever saw him move.

Rorschach - the government will allow you to overpay on your taxes if you feel you aren't paying enough. How much extra are you going to pay since you feel our taxes are too low? You seem to think everyone wants to pay more taxes.... so you can pick up the slack.

Actually, Ed McT; the only time I ever hear about "throwing the book at someone", they're referring to criminals. So the implication here is that Obama is criminally negligent, crminally ignorant, and crminally liable for the disastrous policies he and the Dems/Libs/Progressives have unleashed over the past two years.

To FEDUPWITHFED - Good grief. Housing collapse started with Obama? Where were you in 2007 when the housing market started to freeze [believe a different administration was at the wheel and had been there for 7 years]? You must be very young or just waking up from a stupor.

Kacki,

For your information, I was selling real estate, so dont even TRY to tell me WHEN the housing market collapsed or WHAT caused it! Forcing banks to make loans to people who cant afford them is the height of ignorance!

I could write a book about what I saw...and maybe someone would throw it at Obama! Would anyone listen to me? Hell no, they were riding that wave! I used to get 20 letters a day from banks to refinance my house!

BrianB, I took your advice and went to the CBO website. The only advice I have for you is practice what you preach. There is a chart on the home page that clearly shows that the deficit greatly increased during Bush and is actually less now than it was when Obama took office! Weird, right?

The guy must have been barefoot ;-) (for you lib's he had no shoes too throw)

Fed up.... it did start with the Obama crowd. The heads of both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were top notch democrats. They had control over those two failing government programs but kept on denying anything was wrong with them. How many dollars in pay-offs went to democrats through that program? They were the ones that insisted that anyone qualify for a loan, no matter what their financial status was.... Feel good, do good liberals were doing what they do best - destroy our economy.

I'm have been in construction management most of my adult life... and believe me, I can't buy a job right now. Thank YOU Barney Frank and Chris Dodd you two incompetent morons. Two stellar members of the democrat party.. ::gag, choke, cough::

To bad the book wasn't the complete version of the ObamaCare Healthcare reform bill. That could hurt... in more ways than one.

mfemigh says:

BrianB, I took your advice and went to the CBO website. The only advice I have for you is practice what you preach. There is a chart on the home page that clearly shows that the deficit greatly increased during Bush and is actually less now than it was when Obama took office! Weird, right?

Maybe you don't know how to read the charts. You have to look at the dark blue lines above the zero mark to determine what the meaning of the chart is. Revenues were much higher in 07 and 08. They fell in 09 and in 10. The deficit increased moderatly with Bush, but it got supersized in 09 and 10. The point you are missing is, with reduced revenues, spending should decrease. It hasn't one bit with this democrat congress and with Obama running the helm. I do practice what I preach... maybe you don't understand the message.

Fedupwithfed:

I don't believe for a moment that you were selling houses during those years, or you wouldn't be so blind and ignorant to the fact that the whole housing collapse and poor lending habbits of banks started when BUSH was in office. The banks were purposefully making bad loans, insuring them, and then selling them off because they knew they were going to fail. That's what got this whole housing crisis started. And THAT started back in the early 2000's when my parents (who ARE responsible) were offered an INSANE amount of money to borrow from the bank - so INSANELY much that even my parents wouldn't be able to pay it back.

So do us all a favor and just shut up.

BTW mfemigh - did you follow the little red line? That's the most important indicator. See the huge drop in 09 and into 10? That's your fearless leader's leading indicator of the deficit.

W - It happened during Bush, but it was the democrats fault! They were in charge of Congress, the place that the housing bubble occurred. You want to blame Bush for the democrats idiotic policys. Maybe you don't quite understand that it's congress that controls spending and the democrats were in charge of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They set the policy.

Maybe you and other liberal/democrats should follow your advice and shut up.. at least until you admit that it was the democrats that caused this. Not the republicans, nor Bush.

Brianb you ignorant teabagger,

That's really convenient you shift the blame to congress now instead of where the financial policies originated - Wall Street and Big Business. You have to be an stupid high school student because you know nothing about how the REAL government works. Smaller government? Bull crap, the Republicans want corporations to run the US because that's how they all make their money - by teabagging every single American disguised as "Republican Economics." And If you are SOOO stupid that you can't grasp the concept of "time lag" in economics then you need to shut your mouth. That first year in 2008 is a complete lag from the dim-witted Bush economics. You notice the first time that red-line goes up is when Obama got situated in office and could actually affect the budget.

Just shut your hole. We don't need more ignorant hate making the world a worse place.

Brianb-999431

Fed up.... it did start with the Obama crowd.

Thanks Brian!

W-1124838- Your ignorance speaks volumes, have a great day!

To FEDUPWITHFED - While you were selling real estate, I was a broker/owner running a real estate business. And if you were in real estate as you claim then you KNOW the problem didn't start under Obama as you claimed.

Kacki,

Then I guess you better go back to elementary school to learn how to read, as I never said it happened UNDER Obama, I SAID that he CAUSED it by suing Citibank under the CRA…you do know what that is don’t you?...which FORCED the banks to lend money to people who could not afford it.

Now, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you loan 300k to someone living on welfare that they can’t afford to pay it back. I’m glad you are not MY broker!

What I said was:

Was it patriotic when Carter signed the CRA into law or when Clinton re-ignited it, or when Obama used it to cause the housing collapse that started the sinking economy?

So since you decided to JUMP all over me for Obama, notice I blamed Carter and Clinton as well! So take your pious attitude somewhere else!

TO FEDUPWITHFED - [Your last comment so juvenile -- pot calling the kettle black.] First you say that Obama [2008-2010] used CRA to cause the housing collapse of 2007-2009, then you say that you know that's true because you were/are a real estate agent, and then you want to know if I even understand what CRA is. The CRA made a lot of sales possible for you, Bud, that's what I know of CRA. My question is, did you turn down sales because some of your buyers qualified through CRA or did you take the commissions and run [even though that obviously conflicts with this righteous position you're taking now]?

Again, L E A R N H O W T O R E A D or stay off the board. Please dont put YOUR words in MY mouth

perhaps bold print will help you to SEE better?

Was it patriotic when Carter signed the CRA into law or when Clinton re-ignited it, or when Obama used it to cause the housing collapse that started the sinking economy?

Ethics classes are mandatory in my state....you might try a few

can you do your OWN research?

Case Name
Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank Fair Housing/Lending/
Insurance
Docket / Court 94 C 4094 ( N.D. Ill. ) FH-IL-0011
State/Territory Illinois
Case Summary

Plaintiffs filed their class action lawsuit on July 6, 1994, alleging
that Citibank had engaged in redlining practices in the Chicago
metropolitan area in violation of the Equal Credit Opportunity Act

(ECOA), 15 U.S.C. 1691; the Fair Housing Act, 42 U.S.C. 3601-3619; the
Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution; and 42 U.S.C. 1981,
1982. Plaintiffs alleged that the Defendant-bank rejected loan
applications of minority applicants while approving loan applications
filed by white applicants with similar financial characteristics and
credit histories. Plaintiffs sought injunctive relief, actual damages,
and punitive damages.

U.S. District Court Judge Ruben Castillo certified the Plaintiffs’
suit as a class action on June 30, 1995. Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank
Fed. Sav. Bank, 162 F.R.D. 322 (N.D. Ill. 1995). Also on June 30,
Judge Castillo granted Plaintiffs’ motion to compel discovery of a
sample of Defendant-bank’s loan application files. Buycks-Roberson v.
Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 162 F.R.D. 338 (N.D. Ill. 1995).

The parties voluntarily dismissed the case on May 12, 1998, pursuant
to a settlement agreement.

Plaintiff’s Lawyers Alexis, Hilary I. (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Childers, Michael Allen (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Clayton, Fay (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Cummings, Jeffrey Irvine (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Love, Sara Norris (Virginia)
FH-IL-0011-9000
Miner, Judson Hirsch (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Obama, Barack H. (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Wickert, John Henry (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-9000

So, WHO forced the banks to loan money to those who could not afford to repay their loans that started the frenzie? Banks did not require proof of income. There was no redlining. It was a FRAUDULENT law suit

A September 1999 study by Freddie Mac, for instance, confirmed what previous Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation studies had found: that African-Americans have disproportionate levels of credit problems, which explains why they have a harder time qualifying for mortgage money. As Freddie Mac found, blacks with incomes of $65,000 to $75,000 a year have on average worse credit records than whites making under $25,000.

To FEDUPWITHFED - See you avoided answering the question. The question was, Did you accept commissions on CRA sales? And the answer you're not big enough to admit is, YES YOU DID [hypocrite]. You're in here talking big but you've acted no differently than those you criticize.

No, I did not. I got in AFTER the bubble burst smarty, that was YOU that profitted from it. I was in property management for 8 years watching all the renters we were evicting for non payment of rent go buy houses!

But I see YOU ignore my original comment, so WHO is the hypocrite?????????

To FEDUPWITHFED - Check you entry of Mon Oct 11, 2010 @ 3:12 pm where you claimed "For your information, I was selling real estate, so dont even TRY to tell me WHEN the housing market collapsed or WHAT caused it!"

You are debate unto yourself. First you say you were selling real estate WHEN the housing market collapsed and now you "got in AFTER the bubble burst" [entry of Mon Oct 11, 2010 @ 11:29 pm]?

Can't get your story straight, can you? And you recommend ethics classes to others? Get a few more years under your belt, take a few classes [it may do you some good] and leave the real world to the grownups.

Proves once again that the pen is mightier than the sword.

democrat? just sayin

didnt know palin was democrat, oh wait she reads the bible thats a book right?

Grace you're right, it was thrown by an 'over-exuberant' fan i.e Liberal!!

Touche'

brewgeekNC

Grace you're right, it was thrown by an 'over-exuberant' fan i.e Liberal!!

Uh huh. So about once a week I drive past a yard sign for a Teabag meeting that reads:

"Boiling Point Tea Party Patriots". "boiling point'?? How's that for exuberance?

Why do you have to call people who want smaller government and less taxes names? Are you too dumb to have an intelligent conversation. You need to grow up because mentally you're about 12.

Because you're so insincere about it. Where was the tea bag party when Bush was running up the debt? Where was cry for smaller government then, huh? But that the Republicans aren't in power, NOW you're worried about debt. The tea baggers are just an assortment of sore losers, birthers, and racists. The media didn't tell me that, those signs you carry tell me that.

Bobbyz ?

Why call a TEA BAGGER a TEA BAGGER? Because that's what they called themselves before they learned what the term TEA BAG meant.

So calling a TEA BAGGER a TEA BAGGER is just calling them what they are, or what they called themselves originally.

The same people who voted for bush twice, now throw the book at President Obama - wonder where these high standards will go if the red team gets back in there? Sure will be fun to watch them tripping over they're own words...

What does it mean Mike? You seem to have inside knowledge.

mjordan

ya, signs like read the bill before you sign it.

Thats what started the whole thing. signing the stimulis bill 3 hours after it was finished.

if that doesnt bother you than your the fool

another great line

we have to pass the bill before we know whats in it???

people like you complained for 8 years about Bush.

Why does Obama and company get a free pass now without you standing up and complaining.

Call proud americans what ever you want, it doesnt change what is fixin to happen in a few weeks.

lets see who is crying then.

Rushless: That is what the 12th Congressional of NJ will be after Nov. 2.

BTW, the book thrower was described by the Secret Service as an exhuberant Obummer supporter. I thought Democrats could read. I must have been misinformed.

Oh Bobby,

Smaller government and less taxes just means higher prices for everything else, say like; housing, food, medical care, gasoline, cars, clothes, and water. Rich get richer and the middle class becomes non-existent and the poor, well, they just die.

How about we start living like we like each other (forget love) and realize we need each other to survive. Let's work for the good of ALL....I'm tired of working for the good of the rich.

The term "tea bagger" was first used in reference to the tea party by Anderson Cooper of CNN. It was picked up by the left and used to denigrate, defame, degrade, etc. What else is new?

I was frustrated with President Bush did I resort to violence? No, I chose not to vote for his second term.

This just proves that the radicals will do whatever to express their anger. Lets face it this has a lot to do with a black president, sorry truth hurts.

its Ok to disagree and vote him out of office but this is Tea Party Hatred.

So true. If you don't like the current President, then vote. You don't have to listen to him, you don't have to go to rallies. Just go the polls in 2012 and vote. The tea baggers ARE the reason why our founding fathers gave us a representative democracy -- can't trust the masses.

Obviously the Kool-aid makes you illiterate as well. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE, it was an 'over exuberant fan' read that as Liberal. Knucklehead.

Things are either right or wrong. There's no exception for "unless it happens to someone I don't like." That's what strongly held convictions are. They're held no matter the circumstances. Throwing stuff at people is wrong. Chucking a shoe at Bush was wrong just like tossing a book at the President is wrong. Assassination is wrong. You either believe in right or wrong or you believe in rules for everybody but you and if you're in the latter group you're a filthy hypocrite.

"Lets face it this has a lot to do with a black president, sorry truth hurts."

Ever get tired of playing the race card?

spike

Ever get tired of playing the race card?

Not when 'discrimination' is THE underlying message behind everything the REP/NEO-CONS/TeaPARTIERs spew.

No, they never get tired of using the race card; it's always the last resort when they can't think of anything intelligent say!

I have been an "over exuberant fan" many times in my long and illustruous life.....more than you will ever know.....however I never felt compelled to throw a book at or near the head of the President of the United States with a dozen heavily armed Secret Service agents in close proximity! That is just plain ol' STUPID!

LOL more proof that the left just automatically assumes the worst and blames the right for everything or blindly plays the race card or "radical" card. You're destroying decades of civil rights movements every time you cry wolf. Read the article again and quit just forming your own slanderous story in your head from the pretty pictures.

After all, it was a non-white person who intentionally threw a shoe at Bush Jr. Was that "radical" or "racist" to you?

"Not when 'discrimination' is THE underlying message behind everything the REP/NEO-CONS/TeaPARTIERs spew." It's SO sad that some people can't admit that the POTUS' skin color has nothing to do with why we're rebelling. His skin color had something to do with his election but once he was elected, he did it to himself. He had good support until he started turning a deaf ear to us; cramming through unwanted bills with paid-for votes in the middle of the night; calling us names and lying to us. He campaiged on 'unity and transparency' and has done just the opposite. We're angry and frustrated with the man; not his skin color. Remember: He's only half black.

Kevinoffsite and Bethany - so are you concluding that even over exuberant fans of the President are racist?

The quote says "over exuberant". There is no mention of fan so it could go either way.

Let's face it---- at least SOME of the opposition to Pres. Obama IS racial. That much is pretty obvious by the many cartoon, drawings and various unguarded statemetns made by various republicans!! How much is very hard to measure, but it IS no doubt there!

Bethany

Perhaps it would surprise you that the majority of people do not sit around thinking of race, period. They are working, (or trying to find work), raising their families, and trying to enjoy life in between. Try it.

alwaysfaithfull...now THAT was funny!

ok, so you mean to tell me with all those secret service agents around, not to mention the rest of the crowd that NOBODY saw who threw it?

I hope they put the person face on National TV tonight so we all can see what a Dumb SOB they are.

This was So Disrespectful not to just President Obama but to every single American! and to the Office that he sits in. How Dare you act like this towards Our President. If you were one of my kids and you did this your time on this planet would be Very Short. So Please Network Exec Please Post this little POS picture of who threw the book at Our President on the screen tonight, at least show that you have the GUTS to do SO!

An enthusiastic author tossed a copy of his latest work at Obama after the president's speech yesterday in Philadelphia.

The incident alarmed some witnesses, but appears to he harmless.

The Secret Service sent us a statement:

The person who threw the book was just an over exuberant person. Our agents observed him throw it, detained him and interviewed him. He threw a book he had written onto the stage hoping the President would read it. He was deemed to not be a threat and released with no charges

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/10/obama-gets-a-book-thrown-at-him/1

I guess there goes your RACIST theory!

When a White person does something towards a person of color, it's a hate issue.

When a colored person does something to a White person, it's just news.

Anyone else tired of the double standard?

FedupwithFed

Great, now what are they going to do with the rest of their day if there is no racist theory?

Yup, spend more money....

Darn you!!!

arodoll--I was responding to "the race card" from spike.

Mary--from the tone of your comment -- you did not vote for our current president, so I will explain the voting process for you.

If you dont win -- you can not expect the candidate that won, and that you didnt choose, to follow the campaign promises of the loser. While I realize you have paid little if no attention to this administrations accomplishments -and will probably scream little epitaphs to my response to you - you can use your loss against him.

He made quite a few promises during his campaign and most of which he has accomplished with/but, mostly with out the likes of the republicans.

I am sorry that you feel the need to "obey" and except all that the NEO-CON talking heads are claiming as fact. But, you are entitled to your own opinion -- not your own facts.

need to fix

you can use your loss against him.

to you can't use your loss against him.

Jon - perhaps if you used other sources for news than just MSNBC, you would have known that he was indeed an Obama supporter and threw a book he wrote at the President hoping Obama would read it. The secret service didn't view him as a threat so they did not arrest him.
Here's the ABC news story to confirm my previous post.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/10/book-hurled-at-president-obama.html

Bethany, I read your post and how it defended using the "race card". You commented that the race card should be played because "discrimination is THE underlying message behind everything the REP/NEO-CONS/TeaPARTIERs spew."

Besides the absolute ridiculousness of that unsupported generalization, I'm trying to understand how that fits in our current discussion, especially when numerous news organization have documented that this person was an Obama supporter and African American.
Was his underlying message to discriminate against his own race?

Patrick-1112710

sorry, but SOMEBODY needed to tell the truth, but it was fun while it lasted... :)

arodoll--just like the REP/NEO-CONs before you--you pick out only the information that suits you.

If you had read the entire post(s) before my comment -- you would find spike asking

ARENT YOU TIRED OF PLAYING THE RACE CARD? ergo -- my answer. I realize truth hurts and I also realize that you will defend your position (and you have every right to) .

I, however, have that very same right!

Bethany – I didn’t pick out information, I quoted you. Can you not defend your own words?
I’m aware of what you were responding to, in fact the first two sentences in my post referenced what you were responding to.

You said “I realize truth hurts”, what truth would that be?

Perhaps the truth that you jumped the gun on pulling out the race card and REP/NEO-CONs/Tea Partiers blame game only to be proven 100% FALSE in this instance?

arodoll--

the truth that "discrimination is THE underlying message behind everything the REP/NEO-CONS/TeaPARTIERs spew." Some people are blinded by the message and dont realize when they are being played for fools. Others see the messages and are no longer afraid to point it out.

As I have said, you are entitled to yours and I-mine!

Do you have any proof of this "truth"?

Oh, and since "everything" is covered, what about when REP/NEO-CONS/TeaPARTIERs are talking about white, male Democrats? i.e. Harry Reid (you know the guy who applauds Obama for being light-skinned with no negro dialect)
Is the Republicans and Tea Partiers’ underlying message discrimination in that instance too? Just curious...

Which implies that the half of America that voted for him, aren't included in "the people".

No that book was burned during the BUSH administration with torture and illegal wars.

I guess Bush didn't ram his tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, unfunded Medicare Part D, unfunded no child left behind, removal of civil liberties, doubling (plus) the national debt, lowest per year job growth since Eisenhower and "war to remove the bad man that threatened my daddy" down our throats.

Where were you when all that happened? Didn't hear many complaints from you then.

T-Rex - you wouldn't know the constitution if it bit you in the butt. The dictator was Bush/Cheney and they created the mess we're now in.

Wow and you probably voted for Georgie boy. He never threw anything our throats. Didn't you hear the sucking sound of our economy going down the drain, or did Obama cause this all in 24 months? I didn't even mention our credibility or lack of around the rest of the civilized world.

@T-REX-847863: That's the sort of comment that comes from someone who selectively reads the Constitution. Not a thing is being shoved down anyone's throat. Seriously, what has the president done to you? Name one thing.

Where was your outrage when Bush was doing the same thing?

When did American politics become a sport rivalry? The growing idiocy of America makes me sick.

Boy, the liberals are out today with their moronc posts

@T-Rex: Ah, yes, President that can't even get cloture on his bills in Congress. What a truly dispicable tyrant and dictator.

God.

Boy, the liberals are out today with their moronc posts

'nuff said , moronc.

or that Cheney didnt invent the single biggest assault on your freedom and mine by ramming the Patriot Act down our throats..oh i know its all about securing us from terrorist attacks. Get some vision other than the myopic one hoisted on you by Fox and friends. Read a book..instead of throwing one..or more probable in your case..burning one

I would have found it ever so appropriate if it was a copy of the Constitution. Especially if it's in the form of a paper airplane... And before anyone criticizes my comment, please review your American History and find that NONE of the presidents after George Washington (especially when we as a nation began our overwhelming expansion during the start of the Industrial Revolution) upheld their promise of enforcing the Constitution. Greed (and political friendship in the "'I'll rub your back if you rub mine" sense) always takes precedence over what is right.

T-REX,

I...and many others...are really sick of your type of EMPTY, GARBAGE RHETORIC!!!

What "pre-determined agendas" have been shoved down our throats?

Be specific and give us FACTS, not regurgitated rhetoric and they must be from impartial and CREDIBLE sources.

I'm sick of people calling the health care reform that was passed "Obamacare" because the final legislation was, IN FACT, a compromise of both parties in both houses. It was NOT the health care reform package that he would have instituted himself but he was both flexible and wise enough to be willing to give up on much of what he felt should be in that legislation in order to get any legislation passed.

Is the final legislation that was passed ideal? No, of course, not. But it was the first real step any president or congress has taken to addressing the enormous hemorrage on our economy that the health care issue has become.

Conservatives like you are ranting and raving about Obama "shoving things down your throat" while namby-pamby democrats and independents are whining that he hasn't done enough of what he promised yet.

Well, gee...maybe if we, as citizens, didn't allow ourself to be so polarized on so many issues mabye our politicians wouldn't have to spend half their terms running for re-election and we could all focus on the most important issues to our greatest country's long and short term problems - economy, national security, health care, jobs, diplomacy.

Our country is screwed up and no one person is responsible for it. In fact, if there is anything to blame for the mess that our country is in now...it's the partisanship and polarization that tears this country apart. People care more about wedge issues than real issues and have such blind loyalty to their political parties that they can't see or come to agreements on what is in the best interests of all of us.

As far as I'm concerned, Obama is still the best person to leading our country. Economic experts have stated many times that his economic policies will eventually pay off in the long run.

Our country and economy were screwed up and we're going to have to suck it up and deal with the fact that it's going to take time and money to get things right again.

That was almost a head shot. Secret service not manning the crowds good enough. When one thinks about it, this is a tab bit more serious than it appears. Anyway the force field was up and an embarrassing moment was adverted.

zivo: Standing O!

Your comments show how little you know, how little you read and how little your understand. You are simply parrotting what you have heard and have not clue about dictatorships, etc. It must be hard to be so un-read.

zivo: Right on!

I guess Bush didn't ram his tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, unfunded Medicare Part D, unfunded no child left behind, removal of civil liberties, doubling (plus) the national debt, lowest per year job growth since Eisenhower and "war to remove the bad man that threatened my daddy" down our throats.

Where were you when all that happened? Didn't hear many complaints from you then.

Go look up the actual bills. They show you the # of 'yes' and 'no' votes and which party they belong to. It's not like Bush had closed door meetings and convinced the supermajority to vote lock-step with him to pass those bills. Then go and think about why the Dems keep voting 'yes' to everything (even stuff you don't agree with). "Doubling(plus) the national debt" happened 2007-current.

It does not imply that half of America that voted for him are not included in "the people". It has nothing to do with the election, not sure how you go that.

What is has to do with is, now that he has been elected, he does not listen to anyone. He said he would share his plan on health care and open it to debate....then forced it upon us, the facts of this plan are still being uncovered. How many people know your employer can sign you up for long term care insurance without your permission...and start deducting from your paycheck for it until you discover this and opt out?

This is what I mean by having a preplanned agenda, not disclosing all facts, and forcing this upon us. If I can find one person who knew about this long term care item before it was enacted...I will call him a liar to his face.

TRex , Didn't he run on the idea of universal healthcare? I know its not a perfect bill but its what he ran on. People voted for him expecting that he would pass healthcare legislation. THey also voted for him expecting that he would redirect federal funding towards the country's infrastructure which he did. He also ran that he would reform wall street which he did. You may not agree with HOW he did it but he ran on the idea of doing something and he did it.

I read the healthcare legislation when it was being debated. Due to the fact that I agreed with what was in it I didn't need to make a big deal of the fact that it was being passed through Congress reconciliation. I agree that it didn't go far enough and I voiced that opinion to my senators. I think this is the step that needed to be taken. (I already have long-term care insurance btw).

Zivo, you said "I'm sick of people calling the health care reform that was passed "Obamacare" because the final legislation was, IN FACT, a compromise of both parties in both houses."

I can't believe you actually typed this. UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Facts are stubborn things.

FACT 1) NO compromise on the healthcare bill was made by both parties whatsoever in either the House nor Senate and all Republican amendments were not included in the final bill
FACT 2) Absolutely NO Republicans voted for the Healthcare bill
FACT 3) 33 Democrats voted against it in the House
FACT 4) 3 Democrats voted against it in the Senate

Zivo

Our country and economy were screwed up and we're going to have to suck it up and deal with the fact that it's going to take time and money to get things right again

You're right and we'll start the fixing in November when we don't have the Pelosi and Reid Congress!

Astonished-655682--

You're right and we'll start the fixing in November when we don't have the Pelosi and Reid Congress!

However, you will still have the President of the United States, and he WILL veto ALL the idiotic ideas that your TeaPartiers (a witch, a nazi, and a drunk tried to get to congress.....) concoct in their little heads.

If the shoe... err, book fits, wear it.

ohh another unneeded race card, great play!

Tractortug, don't you learn?

You can't use words with more than 1 syllable when talking to the left. It' confuses them.

I don't know what's worse. The constant race card playing when it has nothing to do with racism or the fact that 6 people voted that comment up.

Remind me again, how many "racists" made lude comments about Condi Rice and Colin Powell for 8 yrs?

@Allen, I don't know, how many "lude" (the word is "lewd", by the way) comments were made? What do offensive sexual comments have to do with racism? How many posters referring to Rice and Powell having sexual relations, not to mention having bones in their noses, were seen at rallies? I don't recall anything like that going on.

On the other hand, I see these posters, I hear Limbaugh calling our President names based on his race, I see posts from right-leaning people on these boards that contain tons of raced-based rhetoric, but any time that is pointed out we get to hear how awful it is that we've noticed.

Now, go ahead and post how illiterate I am or some other such nonsense. It amazes me how many "conservative" trolls there are on these boards...if it offends you to read liberal views, perhaps you should stick with the Fox News site.

Uneducated? You could not be any more wrong. The people in this country are very well educated in the fact that our liberties and freedoms, granted to us in the Constitution of these great United States, are in fact being taken away from us.

A very well known radio talk show host has said many times that the liberal Democrats will aways tell us who they are most afraid of. That could not be proven more true than the comments made by liberals such as you, Bill Hoff. Like the Obama system? Move to Greece, you'll love it there.

'Antisocilism'- There is nothing wrong with being afraid of idiots. A body would have to be an idiot not to be.

Also, "the Obama system" doesn't have anything to do with Greece (no more than Switzerland would)...though you've got me wondering if Greece might have a higher education ranking than we do.

Yours Truly,

A Huge Fan of Socialism

So, "antisocilism" (did you intend that spelling?) --

Where were you and your Constitutional concerns while the previous administration suspended habeas corpus, allowed warrantless wiretapping, created a vague and overly broad definition of "domestic terrorism" that would allow YOU to be detained for political dissent -- which you've expressed right here on this blog?

Those are only a few of the Constitutional concerns you should have had a long time ago.

nobody could lift that one.

That would be assault with a deadly weapon and secret service wouldn't have let him go.

Shawn - what a disgusting and unAmerican post. We tolerated your Bush regime. Obama is a far cry better than you deserve.

Obama is the most unAmerican president this country has ever had. And I do not mean because he's dad was a drunk in Kenya. I mean his policies. Shame on you for even thinking country of origin was my intended meaning.

Actually he isn't an American at all; if he was, he would produce his birth certificate.

You do realize President Obama has been producing his birth certificate all his life due to his travels as a youth? Why can't you go with policies you don't like rather than this absurd conspiracy theory about his BC?

Wake up ... time to wake up. "UnAmerican president" Really. If your selling crazy, we are all stocked up. Go back to sleep.

W.Goin, My post is as American as it gets: FREEDOM of SPEECH! I sir, do not belong to any party or group. I am a United States Citizen first and foremost. No one deserves a President who doesn't listen to his people.

We had president Bush for 8 years...so seriously...did he listen.

W. Goin

Shawn - what a disgusting and unAmerican post. We tolerated your Bush regime. Obama is a far cry better than you deserve.

1) If those 8 yrs are what you call tolerance, it's just proof of how intolerant the left has become.
2) Who the hell are you to say what other people deserve? What an arrogant, elitist attitude.

@ Marie - I would put on the white sheets and support your comment. Unfortunately, your name appears to be French. And that just doesn't sit well with my freedom fries. I'd like to see your birth certificate, I think you may just be a plant..

Allen,

All we heard for 8 years was "love it or leave it" comments from the right about how Pres Bush was trying to "protect" us by suspending habeas corpus and was busy allowing warrantless wiretapping of American citizens? How about this: list out for us the Semi-Americans you think our constitution should not apply to so that when we speak to you we can ignore that group for our argument. This way we won't bother you.

@Marie - Do you really believe he has not produced his birth certificate? REALLY? You apparently do not think for yourself. Someone told you he hasn't a US birth certificate and you believe it. Have you researched it? Have you contacted your local congressman for guidance? Oh, not a fact checker?

Oh, that's right, you are a republican.

Really? We had 8 years of 'conservative Republican leadership' and we ended up in 2 wars and on the verge of a 2nd great depression. Why are you so anxious to go back to that?

Bush wasn't a republican, he was an idiot. Ugh if only reagan was alive...

Even if reagan were alive he couldn't get elected as a republican. He'd have to try as a reagan democrat. Doesn't meet the conservative standard according to the new party regime.

Maria he is just like the rest of them, Beck and the right wing media have turned their brains to mush they can no longer think for themself. Talk about the dumbing down of America the right has really done a number on their crowd.

Alasdair Thornton

Bush wasn't a republican, he was an idiot. Ugh if only reagan was alive...

If Reagan WAS alive, you'd be calling him a RINO.

Maybe you can replace him with sarah palin. Then you'll know the meaning of moron.

Good for the thrower???

Is encouraging this type of behavior going to be part of the "tea party platform" or the "pledge to America"?

Dean

Yeah because everyone that doesn't agree with the left is wrong and brainwashed. Perhaps there are some who do not like Beck-wingers or Pelosi-wingers. Those are the only sane people remaining in this country. I'll take filtered water over tea & kool-aid any day, won't mess with your brain as much.

The older generation, of which I am a member, has failed to educate the younger generation on what socialism looks like and what it is. Greed by Wall street, coupled with a 'half black' candidate allowed the Democrats to put this man in office. Socialism IS NOT THE ANSWER! Wake up and get busy reading your history and start with Hitler Germany. If you don't agree with the people who are warning you about socialism, then instead of just calling us names, turn off the TV/PC and study the history books. LEARN and then make your arguments. Convince us where we are wrong. Conservatism isn't perfect either but it is a dam site better than SOCIALISM.

MariaH-769265

Really? We had 8 years of 'conservative Republican leadership' and we ended up in 2 wars and on the verge of a 2nd great depression. Why are you so anxious to go back to that?

More left wing scare tactics. 9/11 caused one of the wars and the other had been called for (and voted in approval for) the Democrats since the Bush Sr years. The economic crash had been coming for a long time. Housing crash and the exporting of American jobs and services didn't start in 2000.

Do you really believe liberal media when they tell you that if you vote for a Republican you'll end up in another war? Upon what proof do you base this? And ask yourself why someone would have to resort to hypothetical reasoning and scare tactics to get your vote. Obama isn't doing much for our overseas image and his comments sure haven't diffused N Korea or Iran tensions. If war breaks out in one of those 2 places, will you call Obama a war-monger?

I'm sorry but hiding behind the "it was voted for" comment is not a good argument. Bush mislead the entire nation including Congress into getting into the Iraq War so that his Haliburton buddies could make Billions off of America. And for what? Are we more safe now? No. So can this whole "we should all take responsibility" bs. Everyone that's been paying attention knows that the Iraq war was a Republican orchestrated boondoggle.

And to answer your question, if we start a ground war in one of those two countries without being attacked, then yes I will scream for his job. Until that time, the ten's of thousands of people who have died in Iraq are on Bush's hands....

I agree Tom. I do not care at all for his politics. But even if you don't respect the man, you should respect the office he holds.

And I'm sure all the happy Libs on here were respecting the Office when Bush was in charge...and didn't cheer when the shoe was thrown at him. Libs are Hypocrits. Personally I would have loved it if it hit him upside the head...Obama needs a good wack or two...here is his latest fearmongering

October 11, 2010

Democrats' attack ad sets new low for midterm mud

Check out this new ad from the Democratic National Committee. I am sure we are nowhere near touching bottom on the level to which these attack ads will sink by Nov.2, but this is a new low so far into the midterm battle.

Here is what's so appalling to me: The ad makes the totally unsubstantiated charge that the Chamber of Commerce is taking money from foreign interests and using it to "steal our democracy." And worse, President Obama is out on the campaign trail, according to the New York Times, creating an echo chamber by making the same reckless claims just as the ad hits the airwaves. And when CBS newsman Bob Schieffer Sunday asks David Axelrod if there is any proof for the claim, the senior Obama aide says they don't need proof -- it's up to the Chamber of Commerce to prove it isn't true.

The Democratic National Commitee is using the same sort of tactic and logic that Sen. Joe McCarthy used in the 1950s: Level a headline-grabbing and unsubstantiated charge, like the State Department is filled with communists, and then say it is up to the State Department and the employees so charged to prove it is not true.

So much for hope and change; this is the politics of fear, slander and divisiveness on the eve of an election that looks as if it could deliver a damning verdict on the first two years of the Obama administration.

And check out the woman being mugged in the parking garage. By the visual logic of this ad, Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie are the muggers.

I agree in full. I know this if someone hurt the president I might have to go Sharron Angle on the vocal conservative movement called the Tea Party. You know start looking at my second amendment remedies!

At least "teabaggers" know what they stand for. I am not a member of the tea party, nor do I desire to be. But you seem real tough taking a shot at them on newsvine. Why don't you be a man and say something to their face?

What do they stand for and how would they do it?

One question...Would Fox News report it?

A "teabagger" wouldn't be described by secret service as an "overly exuberant fan". A liberal would describe it as whatever they deducted from the picture without reading the story apparently though.

What do they stand for and how would they do it?

Most people who don't like them never bother to look up the answer. It's all based on assumptions like the one above.

One question...Would Fox News report it?

A story on a overly exhuberant fan throwing a book? It's not even on their front page and, honestly, who cares? I read it because I thought it was something more serious deserving attention of top story. MSNBC has this as their top story while Fox News has a story about explosives found at a NYC cemetery.

I heard that "tea-baggers" are homosexual men who perform certain acts with their testicles.

If you really mean the "Tea-Partiers" you couldn't be more wrong. The ones I have met have been perfectly lucid, intelligent and articulate. (Do you know what all those words mean?)

Wake up-2005843

At least "teabaggers" know what they stand for. I am not a member of the tea party, nor do I desire to be. But you seem real tough taking a shot at them on newsvine. Why don't you be a man and say something to their face?

Bzzt. Credibility fail. You're using the name "Wake Up"? That's straight from the Beck 9/12 signs.

Here is an example of conservatives re-writing facts to suit their needs:

A "teabagger" wouldn't be described by secret service as an "overly exuberant fan". A liberal would describe it as whatever they deducted from the picture without reading the story apparently though.

"Overly exuberant" was used in the article and was stated as being said by the Secret Service, but the "fan" part was not in there at all. This little lie has been used more than once on this board and exposes the use of half-truths and utter falsehoods to promote one's agenda. You can attack people for their stance all you want, but this constant misquote is very telling about how you carry yourselves. Please do not accuse others of not reading the article when you cannot accurately quote that article; you are either lying or did not read it yourself, relying on earlier posts for your "knowledge" of its content.

He should have a bigger grin come November. Then maybe Repubs will be forced to actually do something rather that just disagree with everything. I think that this might work out for the best after all.

Obama needs to be forced to actually do something that the public needs and wants that can be done without the need of closed door meetings and bribes for votes. Then the Democrats won't be able to "force" the Republicans to stay out of the meetings then act like children claiming they didn't contribute.

Too bad they missed??

What kind of cretin are you?

I heard people laughing and celebrating in the hallways of my Alma Mater at the news of JFK's assassination as crying students and staff filled those same corridors. The day before we we watched he and jackie smiling and waving to the crows as his motorcade passed in front of the school.

Where is your moral compass?

I agree it's in just as rude conduct as those on the left who said the same thinga bout the shoe & Bush, but comparing a paperback book being thrown with the JFK assassination is ludicrous.

Since the leftists took over, my moral compass doesn't work any more. It wasn't in the country illegally, it didn't pray to allah and wouldn't submit to marxism so they attacked it relentlessly until it broke.

nice one Leah !!!

We aren't allowed to have a moral compass anymore, remember? Cuz morals are too close to religious teachings and religious teachings are evil...

Looks to be a relatively small paperback book. Probably capable of doing no more damage than a paper cut... Not saying it's right, but it's probably less physically harmful than the shoes people celebrated being thrown at Bush. But I suppose it's different now that the proverbial shoe is on the other foot...

Since when do liberals have a moral compass??...That is like mixing oil and water. I would of used the word oxymoron but it would of gone over the heads of most liberals.

Larry,

First, it is absolutely wrong to throw something at the President.

Second, While some think it's funny and some think it's despicable, I don't understand how roles switch so easily when compared to the reaction to the person who threw the shoe at President Bush. It seems that both sides have select moral standards based on politics.

I think that throwing a book and equating that to ignorance is a real stretch

I would imagine, since they are not saying who it was that threw the book, it is probably a democrat....if it was a republican they would either be dead or in jail.

If a republican threw the book...they would deny it to the end just like everything else.

From the article:

The U.S. Secret Service spoke with the book-thrower and described him as over-exuberant. You can watch a video of the incident HERE.

DIVAMOM

If a republican threw the book...they would deny it to the end just like everything else.

Seriously? Are you that blinded by politics? Which party is it running their campaigns on their voting record now and which ones aren't even putting their party banner on their TV ads?

Well said!

6% of our population are psychotics, but only about half are receiving treatment. I think we just found another one that needs help.

Toto,

What the heck are you talking about?

Not only is your comment vile, repugnant, and sexually suggestive, it made absolutely NO SENSE!!!

Consider yourself reported.

Watch your mouth Toto. This is a public forum. Better yet, get off of it. You have NOTHING to contribute.

Exactly. TP'ers love to call for impeachment... on what grounds? We should have imprisoned Bush's gang of thugs long ago for the immoral and illegal deeds performed.

Bush caused the mess we now face, like it or not, believe it or not. TP'ers are so enthusiastic in their cause, but it is difficult to pin-down a cause. Are they interested in an overthrow of our elected govt.? Are they for or against the Amendments of the Constitution? Are they willing to allow others to live in freedom and peace even though they may not agree with them? Are they willing to use the system to promote their opinions?

Fact: Bush inherited a surplus and he left with the economy in a shambles with nowhere to go but to institute drastic measures in an attempt to thwart an all-out DEPRESSION.

Fact: we will have spent over $2T on Iraq and Afghanistan, much of which was given to (stolen by?) the thugs in both countries.

Fact: over 100,000 people have been killed or injured by the wars we have waged against "terrorism", initiated by Bush.

Fact: thousands of US soldiers and advisers have been killed with the premise they were protecting our country by fighting in Iraq.

Fact: the basis for the war in Iraq was a threat of weapons of mass destruction. None were found after years and years of searching. Who sold Saddam the technology in the first place? Try on the name Rumsfeld for size.

Fact: Chicanery in the contracts meted out to Halliburton were way beyond the old wasteful days of the $10,000 hammer ("Chenery?")

Fact: The Wall Street debacle was kick-started by banking policies and the SEC and banking oversight groups in the Fed which were either woefully inept or corrupt.

Fact: Obama incurred the largest debt in US history and has instituted change which will take years to make an impact. Temporary actions were suggested but thwarted by the Republicans in Congress. Want to be angry at someone? Try those Republicans in the US House and Senate. Then, work your way around the city, making lengthy stops in the office of every single lobbyist.

Want numbers on the economy? Go to the Business Conditions Digest or the GAO or the US Treasury.

Get over it, the Democrats won and look here we are.

here ya go chief....GET REAL-and GET IT RIGHT!

Obama's list of FAILURES & LIES - all in 20 months

OBAMA LIES:
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*Remove all combat troops from Iraq in 16 months - FAIL
*Closing of GITMO in 1st Year of presidency - FAIL
*Create 5 million Green Jobs - NONE created - FAIL
*Said no former Lobbyist will work on contracts in the Obama Administration - FAIL
*Restrict Warrantless Wiretaps - he promised but has done nothing - FAIL
*Transparency - promised 72 hour posting of laws before HE SIGNED them - FAIL
*TRILLION Stimulus JOB Plan - FAIL
*Said unemployment rate would go no higher than 8% - FAIL
*Tripled National debt after saying he would not add one dime - FAIL
*Bi-Partisanship - said he would cross party lines, instead calls them names - FAIL
*Demands Pay/Go only to sign the Unemployment Bill unfunded - FAIL
*Said Obamacare would cover every child but it doesn't - FAIL
*GULF Coast Support - tells everyone to go there for vacation while he goes to Maine for his - FAIL
*Housing Market - 40 Billion Mortgage Plan to save homeowners - FAIL
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OBAMA ACTS of STUPIDITY:
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*Russian Spy Swap - gives Russia 6 spies and the US gets 2 - FAIL
*Prosecution of 9-11 Terrorists - wants their trials at ground zero - FAIL
*Olympics for USA - goes to Copenhagen and gets the US out of the 1st round - FAIL
*Race Relations - calls a white cop stupid then has a beer - FAIL
*Tennessee Flood Disaster Response - no response - FAIL
*Delayed GULF OIL Leak Response - did nothing but golf & blame BP - FAIL
*Border Security - sues a state trying to protect its border – Fail
*Response to Michigan OIL Spill - no response - FAIL
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OBAMA WORLD STAGE FAILURES:
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*G20 Summit - tells them to keep spending money - they laugh at him - FAIL
*Afghanistan -Top US General Resigns over Obama's plan for US defeat - FAIL
*European Missile Defense - scraps program for the Russians, gets nothing - FAIL
*Bowing to 3rd World Leaders & making excuses for America’s existence - Fail
*Haiti Response - gave 1 week of effort never to be heard of again - Fail
*Mexico Border - drug war along the border & he has made no trips - FAIL
*North Korea – He was laughed at & taunted - FAIL
*Global Climate Change Consensus - He lead but nobody followed - FAIL