You show a policeman on fire but all society is on fire, violence gives birth to violence.

I hope he survived the attack, but i don't feel sorry for him. Police should help the people in their demands, not make everything @!$%#in' harder. This @!$%#in' world is starting to burn, one city after another. Either help the people fight against the gov. or be against it. But in that case, star wearing fire proof clothes.

Greece, a country of the middle east pretending to be west...

A similar case to the delusional Gaddafi. Average Greeks strongly believe in the conspiracy theories of the dark forces - the entire world against them. There is no hope for sure

In my opinion the only continuing violence that Greek society is aware of is the one which stems from extremists from both left and right wing of the social and political spectrum.

The truth is though that we cultivated that violence as a society, because we tended to consider as heroic every anti - state action during the past decades and we tolerated minor anarchim which grew up in nowadays.

Polish forces were never violent but in rare cases such as the murder of Alexandros Grigoropoulos who was an innocent victim of a deranged cop. In general i wouldn't dare to characterise as "dangerous" our polish and other state forces... on the contrary.

My friend Spyros these theories are all around the world nations. But there is one reality. The people's suffering from the measures - and of course the Police Violence that starts the party. I don't like pictures like that with burning people but nobody can protest in Athens without chemicals in his head. This is the today's news.

Theories like yours by sitting in the couch and accepting everything as a destiny give no hope at all.

This poor fellow is in a world of hurt, and I do hope someone had the presence of mind to smother the flames before it was too late. Stop, Drop, and Roll. Luckily they got the helmet off.

Throwing a fire-bomb is an act of attempted murder, in response to a political isolation. Trying to justify it is just appeasement. As hurtful as political measures are to all of us, appeasers should realize the majority of the population supports them, of course some much less and others more. Recent elections supports that, as is society's attendance to rallies. When their ideas can not convince us, what makes them think acts of murder like this one, will? It's a just a hidden form of totalitarianism against collective will.

When the government terrorism is knocking on your door, you are not spending your time in meaningless discussions.

I see half news here.

Why everybody shows the policeman in fire,and they doesn't show or say what this policeman was doing before he catches fire ?

Well learn that in Greece there is a special police squad named "Dias" which use motorcycles,and their only job is to storm to pedestrian people who are protesting while driving their motorcycles. It's a unit made for terrorizing civilians to not protest and not demand their rights. They collide with full speed random people,injuring them but I don't see any news t.v. station or website talking about this.... It's plain propaganda to show policemen getting attacked,without showing that they are the ones that start to attack random unarmed people in the streets.

Our government uses violence that can be lethal to terrorize us to stop talking about their corruption,stop protesting and stop asking our rights.We have a terrorist government,and medias are hiding it.

George Papandreou is the most hated person in Greece right now not just because he raised taxes,but because he trampls constitutional laws,and according to our constitution he should be jailed for life for commiting HIGH TREASON against the Greek Nation.

Thank you.

Police brutality is a problem in Greece for sure.. like in many other countries, also in the US or Europe. However Dias in not a special police squad to terrorize citizen. Steve3092309 you complain about propaganda, when you produce your own. The people you say police "attack" are not random or unarmed people. They carry molotov bombs, metal and wooden poles, hammers, rocks, axes, fire extinguishes and today someone had a bow and arrows with them at the rally today... other then that they are unarmed!! Last time these "unarmed" people killed 3+1 innocent people in a bank (+1 was because the one woman was pregnant). And to people who do not know, these "people" are not unions or labor people, which they generally peacefully and protesting to protect there rights, as they should.

Greece has lots of problems but the main one is that Greeks are unwilling to learn from their mistakes. Mainly because they don't really have lived experiences of how functional countries are. So it's not easy for them to accept fault and try and improve. It's really easier to blame "the others", the state, capitalism, the IMF, the West or whatever rather than improve how we treat this country.

Dudi,

Steve-3092309 makes a good point.

Here's just a few links mate. Dias is out of control!!

come on....6 years old

So I guess this is just a teenager and well Roma, why would you care!!

The 3rd picture down on this link speaks for itself.

Some good reading here too mate.

I mean there are problems with police the world over (Australia included) , but I see Dias as well out of control and read it as Steve-3092309 calls it.

However are they really all that bad ass?

I mean if they forget stuff like "Stop Drop and Roll" when on fire and go for " Panic Flail and Run" instead, then the Greek people will win easily.

The last post makes no sense without links (they failed). Dias ran over an killed a 6yr old Roma girl 5 Jan 2011. There are many more references to them harrasing youth and Roma, Just google it. There is also loads of photographic evidence of them ramming protesters with their bikes at the 15 Dec 2010 protests (not at the recent protest, well not yet).

There are so many sites showing their crimes that it beggers belief. I'm sure that you know all this, but you have your propaganda!

@Steven-3465.. We all, more or less, want to believe our own propaganda. Where you see a deliberate killing of 6yr old Roma girl (horrifying even, and I we do care, not because they are Roma but because they human being and citizen of this society), other see an accident. I do see the total abuse of authority from groups like this (Dias) but I don't buy the arguments that these are killing squads going around running over 6yr olds.. For what?  The argument should have been, did the law step-in to investigate what happened, and if not.. why didn't this "unarmed" group demonstrate on behalf of this innocent Roma girl?? ("So I guess this is just a teenager and well Roma, why would they care!!"... right?)... And talking about propaganda, have you heard about the person you had his head put on fire and but others were pointlessly accusing him of not knowing how to drop-and-roll!

Ghandi would be appalled. By both sides.

Spyros

Greeks have nothing to learn from Goldman & Sachs and other American gangs of bandits. What you don't understand is that there is a war between America and Europe and Greece is the first victim. There is a War who is a continuity of Yugoslavia war. America does not like a strong Europe either a strong EURO. And the reason is that America has not enough gold or EURO to take back all those @!$%#ing US$ that was printed without cover of gold or industry values. When the discussion started about changing of dollar and make EURO as an international currency all at once remember the European countries debit. The major debit of all universe has a name and called AMERICA via US $, but nobody talks about that. Greece is a small country and behind closed doors the blackmail is on the table of every breakfast. So Spyros read more please...

Yes Tsompanos.

It's the Zionists and Americans who have thrown this dark war upon us.

I'm so grateful of you educating me, since this is such an original perspective of the world and so under-represented. 

Greeks cannot improve because they are perfect already! We don't need Europe, we don't need the Americans and we don't need da Germans either. As long as they give us their money we're happy to be spending them.

Regards!

What Greece needs is another PAPADOPOULOS !!! The police in Greece should have the right to defend themselves against these violent ANIMALS by shooting them immediately. If you throw anything at a Policeman in the United States you will be shot. Mr. Papandreou should also put the military along with Tanks to assist the Police in taking down these disgusting ANIMALS!!!

Papadopoulos is dead, and his and your ideas should die with him.

The fact US police shot first and ask questions later does not place them on the right side of law or be better at their job. They often violate citizens rights and are not held accountable. 

Dudi, I think Elisseos is just humouring me in response to my previous post.

You see, anything that opposes the "traditional Greek view of the world" (that wants all cops to be pigs, the state as the only enemy and the external capitalist powers conspiring against the greek economy) is automatically labelled as fascist. Isn't that ALL ABOUT being Greek? We label everyone as neoliberal, fascist, communist, anarchist blah blah blah...

But what Elisseos is cynically doing here is funnily enough, exactly what Gaddafi said for his people for real!

But that's ok with me if that's how they want to perceive me.

If "leftfield", liberal and "progressive" views are the ones that want people burnt then I rather not be on that side

You are in deep deep dark Spyros. What i alleged before is written in every days newspaper (if you know how to read small letters). I'm sure you the only thing you know about Bretton Woods is that this city is in New Hampshire. I'm also sure that you know why president Nixon left this international agreement system at 1971. Beyond that if you belittle and hate so much Greece and Greeks, i think you must change your name to an Anglo-Saxon name. It will adapt you better and we will know who is from the other side. It's really sad for you to believe only the propaganda against us and our country. There are millions of Greeks who are serious workers, scientist, artists e.t.c. You have not the right to offend the sense of justice of these people because of some Greek criminals who are the same in every country of the world...

You are in deep deep dark Spyros. What i alleged before is written in every days newspaper (if you know how to read small letters). I'm sure you know about Bretton Woods at 1944. I'm also sure that you know why president Nixon left this international agreement system at 1971. Beyond that if you belittle and hate so much Greece and Greeks, i think you must change your name to an Anglo-Saxon name. It will adapt you better and we will know who is from the other side. It's really sad for you to believe only the propaganda against us and our country. There are millions of Greeks who are serious workers, scientist, artists e.t.c. You have not the right to offend the sense of justice of these people because of some Greek criminals who are the same in every country of the world...

You are in deep deep dark Spyros. What i alleged before is written in every days newspaper (if you know how to read small letters). I'm sure you the only thing you know about Bretton Woods is that this city is in New Hampshire. I'm also sure that you know why president Nixon left the Bretton Woods international agreement system at 1971. Beyond that if you belittle and hate so much Greece and Greeks, i think you must change your name to an Anglo-Saxon name. It will adapt you better and we will know who is from the other side. It's really sad for you to believe only the propaganda against us and our country. There are millions of Greeks who are serious workers, scientist, artists e.t.c. You have not the right to offend the sense of justice of these people because of some Greek criminals who are the same in every country of the world...

You are in deep deep dark Spyros. What i alleged before is written in every days newspaper (if you know how to read small letters). I'm sure you the only thing you know about Bretton Woods is that this city is in New Hampshire. I'm also sure that if you know why president Nixon left the Bretton Woods international agreement system at 1971 you would not be so ironist. Beyond that if you belittle and hate so much Greece and Greeks, i think you must change your name to an Anglo-Saxon name. It will adapt you better and we will know who is from the other side. It's really sad for you to believe only the propaganda against us and our country. There are millions of Greeks who are serious workers, scientist, artists e.t.c. You have not the right to offend the sense of justice of these people because of some Greek criminals who are the same in every country of the world...

Let me school you about United States soldiers. I am one. Throw a gasoline bomb, or any bomb at my comrades or me when we are doing our jobs, and I promise it will not end well for you. This is not Greece and we are not scared to strike back at you. Lethal force=lethal force. Try me.