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Protesters hold wooden letters that spell the word "shame" in front of the Wisconsin State Capitol on March 10, 2011 in Madison. Thousands of demonstrators continue to protest at the Wisconsin State Capitol as the Wisconsin House voted to pass the state's controversial budget bill one day after Wisconsin Republican Senators voted to curb collective bargaining rights for public union workers in a surprise vote with no Democrats present.

Protesters spell out their grievances at the Wisconsin State Capitol

AP reports:
MADISON, Wis. — Wisconsin's union-busting governor and fellow Republicans in the state legislature successfully pushed through a law Thursday that strips public workers of most collective bargaining rights, ending for now a three-week battle that saw all Democratic state senators flee to a neighboring state and as many as 80,000 protest at the Capitol building.

The extraordinarily contentious law passed the state Assembly, the lower house, on a 53-43 vote within hours of a Republican maneuver in the Senate on Wednesday night overcame a parliamentary logjam caused by the three-week self-exile of Democratic Senators. They had taken refuge in neighboring Illinois to prevent a vote on the larger budget measure to which the collective bargaining ban was attached.

See more coverage of the Wisconsin political struggle here.

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SHAME is on Democrats that left state.

SHAME is on unions with ties to socialist (look at AFLCIO logo vs ISO logo)

SHAME is on greed of unions

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Reply#1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:45 PM EST

The unions are made up of ordinary working people. The greed is with the 200 richest people in America who earn more than the remaining 190 million others. Shame on you for being an ignorant dumb ass republican who knows nothing but hate

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#1.1 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:19 PM EDT

The Private sector ordinary working man called the Taxpayers and businesses are the original payers of the money to the states which the unions workers receive.

There are more Government Union workers than there are private sector workers (both union and non union). Soon the private sector will be slaves to the Government union workers. SHAME on the Government unions that take from the taxpayer, give some back in the form of taxes but then get almost fully paid health care and retirement funds while those of us in the private sector have to pay for most of our insurances and for almost all of our retirement.

The unions are getting greedy and the only reason why we can't protest is we don't have someone paying us to protest (with taxpayer money, no less). Just think what it would be like if all of us were government Union workers. Where would the initial money come from? There wouldn't be any.

    #1.2 - Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:04 PM EDT
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    Unemployment teeters in double digits. Half the country is under flood waters or otherwise being ripped apart by storms. Oil prices continue to skyrocket. The national deficit is sunk in the trillions. Congress can’t agree on budget cuts. Illegal immigrants are pouring over the southern border, where people are getting shot every day. The debate over Muslim extremism rages on. Pro-union protestors are storming state capitols, threatening the lives of elected representatives. Other elected representatives have fled into hiding. Thousands are in danger of never existing due to lack of funds for cowboy poetry.

    And that’s just on the homefront. Overseas, Middle East regimes are toppling one after another, and no one knows who or what will replace them. France—France!—is taking the lead on how to address the Libyan situation. (I can’t begin to describe what typing that sentence did to the left side of my brain.) Oh, let me say it again: FRANCE!

    The world is going up in smoke at one end, and down the toilet at the other.

    So while civilization as we know it is going straight to hell and never mind the handbasket, where is the Leader of the Free World, The One We’ve All Been Waiting For, the guy on the poster that says HOPE?

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    Reply#2 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:44 PM EST

    No where did union members threaten the lives of legislators......You are a "CON" and I really believe a paid member of the tea on the American group.....your nut jobs showed up at political meetings this summer with loaded assault semi automatic rifles....as I recall.

      #2.1 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:13 AM EDT

      Yes, there have been death threats to the WI republicans. Yes, they have trashed my capital. Yes, unions have taken protesting to personal residences. Where is the civility in this? They are out of state union thugs running the demonstrations. I have two union polls questioning recalling my republican senator (one from Virginia-the other 'unknown caller on my ID).

      George - loaded assault semi automatic rifles? Give me a break. This would have been all over the news. Try the 29 rounds found on the WI capital grounds last week.

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      #2.2 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:32 AM EDT

      i've said it before during the prez elections...it doesn't matter who's in office, they're not in control anyway. now it's very clear and people can stop worshiping these politicians and take things into our own hands. we've been too lazy and expecting others to take care of the 'little' people. wake up!

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      #2.3 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:37 AM EDT

      Unions need to take there protests to the sidewalk in front of the Republican legislaters place of business and drive down there business ...why should they keep makeing profits.... when they are stealing there money from tax paying citizens ... makeing obscene retirement pension benefits ....free health care.... they never once said they are willing to give up there piece of the tax payer pie

        #2.4 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:21 PM EDT
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        The unions made their own bed! Greed kills and they continue to want everything handed to them, like they are owed the job. What happened to working for it? What happened to the work ethic that made this country great? The AFLCIO started the deterioration of the American worker's expectations and continues to force it's own self interest above all other things. They are getting what they deserve and I hope more is to come!

        As tot he Democrats that vacated the state. They are fine as long as things go there way. When they can't get what they want, they run away and hide like children. That should be the "Shame."

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        Reply#3 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:17 AM EST

        we all cry... everybody who doesn't have a job, everyone has a grievance, and everyone is pointing a finger.... When all that we need to do is look around our own homes... yep... get out a paper and pen..... now write down each object in your home and what country it is made in... go ahead. Do it. check our how many items are Made in America... did you find any yet? keep checking..... That is right, hardly anything you have bought was made here. So tell me now who is at fault for the economy.

          #3.1 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:26 PM EST

          Most of the items in our home are foreign made...I knew that when I bought them. Who is at fault? In large part, I blame the unions whose greed resulted in pricing American goods right out of the marketplace.

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          #3.2 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:52 AM EDT

          kISS MY A== B===H I AM TALKING TO YOU JIM

            #3.3 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:13 AM EDT

            Raymond you are the perfect example of union ignorance!

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            #3.4 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:34 AM EDT

            It looks like the majority of comments are seeing what trouble we're in. I noticed the ironworker has a profound comment - which is union mentality. We all are having a tough time - but so did generations before us. What upsets me is the political morals many politicians display in this country. Drastic measures need to be taken and the only ones that can do that is us. Having unions in government is against everything this country as founded on. Career politicians need to go - we are no longer being served by government or their union workers that need an act of congress to get fired. That's not the case in the private sector.

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            #3.5 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:49 PM EDT

            There are a lot of union people in the private sector that do not like to pay in their dues only to have it go to a Democratic political campaign of some out of state politician that will force all the states to give more to the unions.

            This bill will allow the people who want to be in the unions to pay for their own union dues. Something the union bosses don't want to see happen. Nor do the Democrats as they receive large amounts of funds from the unions, both from Democrats and by default from the Republican members of said unions. Let the members decide who they want to support in the elections.

              #3.6 - Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:11 PM EDT
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              Why don't the polical figures that are making over a $100,000 or even 80,000 take a pay cut to help out the budget? While they are at it why not have them pay in for their own medical? Hey and how about that free retirement? In an effort to reduce the deficit why not start in their own backyard and not the backs of the middle class. I am a 6 year high school teacher with a master's degree earning just over $35, 000. Let them live on my pay.

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              Reply#4 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:52 AM EST

              How can you say the Greed of the unions. All I have witnessed all my life is non union folk are to greedy to pay the fee to join the union and scared the monthly dues are going to break their pocketbooks. The unions are fighting and have always fought to keep workers safe professional and able to live decent productive lives for themselves and their families. Good clothes for their children nice homes to live in and nice vehicles to stay productive and food and good Medical ,pensions and vacation funds as well as unemployment insurance for hard times fair workers comp in the event a injury does claim one of us. GREED WHERE DO YOU SEE GREED? RAYMOND UNION IRONWORKER AND PROUD OF IT

                Reply#5 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:05 AM EDT

                some of these comments are spoken like a true republican if its not thier idea they vote nooooooooo

                  Reply#6 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:34 AM EDT

                  Spoken like a true idiot. You can't think beyond your nose

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                  #6.1 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT

                  Nice Nancy, nice! So much for civility! That'll change minds and win hearts!

                    #6.2 - Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:11 AM EDT
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                    with all the things that are going on in the world today you are still protesting. get over yourselves. you heard me get over yourselves and go back to work. you now look like spoiled selfish brats. you are nowon a time out. or maybe you could take all the energy and go to japan and actually do something with yourselves. put your big girl panties on and deal with it. after all when the democrats shoved obama care down our throats we just had to deal with it.

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                    Reply#7 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:57 PM EDT

                    I think it is interesting reading about all the "greed" from unions. What are these union workers thinking, being able to negotiate their own pay and working conditions?! Why aren't the people who are calling union workers greedy also calling out the Wall Street execs that bankrupted our country, did not go to jail, are getting bonuses, and are not paying taxes? Where is your anger at them. Union workers are asking for basic needs while the top 2% are taking money from everyone and just sitting by as uneducated, hate filled people fight the fight for them. Are you holding out hope that one day you will be one of the people at the top, and you can't take away the easy life because you would want it for yourself? That's greedy and just plain stupid. The top 2% are looking out for themselves, are padding their pocket books, and paying off commentators and Congress to convince you to vote against your own self-interest so they can keep getting richer while the middle class disappears. That is what is shameful, that you would cut the throats of hard working people who want the rights that were given to them 50 years ago, for people who have more wealth than they can ever spend in three lifetimes.

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                    Reply#8 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT

                    Everyone wants to keep the money they make whether it is the ordinary tax payer or the super rich banker or business man. The problem is the Government unions taking the dues from individual members that is actually tax payer's money and giving it to all one element in the political arena (Democrats).

                    Now that they get the money, where have you seen poor Democratic politicians? There aren't any. If they were poor, they aren't now when they get into office. But they sure like to tell everyone that we should pay more in taxes than we already are.

                    Look at Rep. Pelosi and her husband. Multi millionaires that when you ask them if they like to pay taxes, will tell you like everyone else that pays taxes..... They pay too much.

                    I just don't like the fact that people in the Government unions are taking taxpayer money and getting all the benefits they get. They should be putting more towards their own benefits like we have to in the private sector (union and non-union) Both sides are greedy and we taxpayers are stuck in the middle. That is why I voted for Gov. Walker. He has put a stop to this part of the madness. We need jobs in this state of Wisconsin. Will the Government unions give them to us? No. Only the private sector can. along with those greedy rich people that run the companies and/or do other non government business.

                      #8.1 - Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:32 PM EDT
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                      Nancy, with all the things going in the world today, reasonable, rational people realize this is the time to join the protests. Around the globe, ordinary people like you and I (unless you are among the idle and/or undeserving rich) are wiggling out from under the boot-heel of Reaganomics and the dictators, not unlike the Teabag Junta that has usurped basic human rights in America washed the American Dream out to sea like a tsunami.

                      Govenor (term used loosely) Walker took a managable economic situation and turned it into a phony crisis by giving millions of tax breaks to companies who hadn't proven their need for them. Like the Iraq war, this act of cronyism was all planned out before he was elected. Union wage standards influence the level of compensation in non-union jobs as well. Be very afraid of 7, 6 or even 4-dollar-an-hour wages on the horizon. Good luck with that McMansion haha.

                      Now comes the time for us to fight the rising tide of useful idiots in state after state who would return hard-working people to third-world wages. How little are YOU willing to work for? The end of American life as we know it is nearer than you think. Be careful what you Teabag for, someone you care about may have it destroy their economic well-being.

                        Reply#9 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

                        I work for schools and 60% of our school funding goes to PERS, Public Employee Retirement System, then we take out wages and medical and there is nothing left to give our children an education, proper buildings, food, books. Unions are self serving and offer no consideration of how they effect the rest of us. In our school district union teachers and staff are loosing jobs and hours, yet retired teachers and admin return to work while on retirement and make twice as much. They were asked to give up a couple days of pay to protect the jobs of other union members and they said NO. The ones keeping there jobs have no problem caring only about there own survival. Where is the union loyality? It all comes down to we only care about our own welfair and we dont care how it effects everyone else. The Union Motto. Detroit is a great example of this.You may create a nice life for yourselves at our expence but your burden on the economy is reflected in higher prices for everything in our lives. Maybe it is time for Unions to help everyone in our country by giving back to all of us. Pay your own retirement and medical and help us all get through these times. All I see in these postings are union members that want for themselves. Unions have cost more jobs then they have created, you have created a labor cost that forces companies to move to cheaper countries for labor. Your officials are the ones making billions off of you why dont they cut there profit margin and return some of your money to you. On TV last night there was a Union President that makes 10 million and another making 5 million. The unions bought the presidential election by donating 1 billion to Barry Mohamabama. Money that could be used to help the people of the country. If you dont like the cost of your medical and retirement plans go after the medical industry to lower prices for all of us and if you want to pay less for your retirement funds get someone to make proper investments for you and make them accountable for there investments. You are fools if you beleave your unions really care about you, your just a wallet to take money from. If you truly want the general public support do something to help the people and force the government to quit wasting tax money. We need to address our problems and become one people in this country. We need to bring jobs back to our country and make America strong again. Unions should be watchdoging our government and not sleeping with our corrupt officials. Life would be much better for everyone if we were not supporting every other country in the world, most that dont like us. Reinvest into our own businesses and people. What ever happened to Made In America meaning top quality and pride. Unions and our government are going to have to change there spending practices before things get better in this country and the American worker will have to do a hard days work to make a living and not expect to be given a life of lesure for just showing up to there place of employment. Wages should be based on overall profits and savings and not just the fact that they show up for work. Would be good for our elected officials to be paid the same way. Of course they would actually have to show up for work and do something. I always thought elected officials should make what the average American makes and receive a bonus based on how much they improve life for all of us. If the average wage goes up then they get the percent of improvement. Make them earn a living by making our lives better. Isnt that why we elect them? Unions should operate the same way by improving profit for businesses and returning a percentage of the profit to the employees. It creates a vested interest. Try being part of the answer for the American Worker and not the one creating the problem, and yes you might have to give like all the rest of us.

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                        Reply#10 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT

                        Last time I looked, unions have disappeared from the private sector, corporate profit is way up, nothing is made in America. How can you buy "made in America" when corporations have moved all production overseas? The only thing unions did was insist Americans not be paid $3.00 a day or less, like in developing countries. Corporate America has turned its back on America, shoves "unions" under the bus, and for some reason continues to blame unions in the public sector.

                        What bewilders me is how so many people can be so misdirected. Who is profiting from this? Not the middle class. Unions are already mostly gone, now who are you going to blame?

                        That whooshing sound is the wealth continuing to be concentrated in the hands of a very few, and they aren't union.

                          Reply#11 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:52 PM EDT

                          aka "earthrick"..........the computer I use is a HP, made by a (big) american company who prbly has a few republicans on the board. yes, they had this computer assembled in china by underpaid nonunion employees so they (the board) could up their creedy profits yet I fell for it because of the price. I stand b4 you and I plead guilty of my own greed. I can (or can't) understand this because I've been a union man in the past and I know what the unions have done for the working stiff of this country(America). They got us the 40 hr week, stopped child labor, got us overtime and many more benies for the benifit of all. To take away collective bargining is like (to me) takeing away our right to free assembly, our right to free speech. Are we going back to the days of Henry Ford who treated the working man as "just part of the line" who could beaten into submission? .............every day is earth day

                            Reply#12 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:02 PM EDT

                            What are unions? Better still who are unions? They are teachers, janitors, firefighters, police officers, iron workers, tv writers, producers, actors, bus drivers, auto workers, farm workers, postal workers, steel workers, journaists, mechanics, printers, professors, retail workers, and your neighbours, fellow Americans, and citizens who have collectively bargained for safe workplaces, better wages and benefits for all the rest of us. Greed and ignorance are found ingrained in the rebulican party and their followers

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                            Reply#13 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:06 PM EDT

                            Sounds like Ronald Regan all over again, maybe we can have more trickle down economics.

                              Reply#14 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:36 PM EDT

                              I think a lot of anti-union comments are rooted in jealousy. It is a fact that non-unionized workers have lower wages, fewer benefits and poorer working conditions that those of us who are organized. I say get into a union or start a union; the weekly dues won't break your wallets and you'll have even footing at the bargaining table. Case in point: at a hospital in a major U.S. city, one of the leading hospitals who RNs are organized entered into a contract where the nurses received raises over a two year period to keep pace the pay scales of other similar hospitals in the same city. Across town, another hospital, also well-regarded and internationally known, had give their staff substantital raises in order to attract and retain nurses. Within a year, this hospital unilaterally withdrew those raises, leaving the nurses to earn approximately 25% less than their colleagues. Had these nurses been organized, this could not have happened for the life of the agreement. To this day, their salaries lag behind; they do not get overtime pay and do not get the "comp. time" they are supposed to earn for working extra hours when staffing is low. Because they have no union, they have no recourse and cannot grieve the conditions under which they work or the wages and benefits they earn. Does that sound very fair?

                                Reply#15 - Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:29 AM EDT

                                If we are all in a government union, who will be paying the taxes we all collect in pay and benefits?

                                  #15.1 - Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:37 PM EDT
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                                  I think that we need to step back and think for a minute. Nowhere in the private sector are workers guaranteed a job with all of the benefits unless they perform. Not showing up, or showing up late, or drunk can get you fired. Union workers can file grievances so that the company can't fire them. When something needs to be done in a private company the people just do it. They don't need to be worried that the wrong union workers did it. Were unions need at one time? YES! Are they needed now? Hardly. The people that are working determine how they will be treated. When you don't like how you are being treated go to a different company that will treat you better. Take control of your own life, don't cry about how bad you have it. Pay attention to what is going on around you. Pay attention to the politicos. How much are they costing all of us. How much tax money is going to countries overseas to "welfare" nations. Why should those nations improve themselves if they can just collect welfare? Read your history, find out how the great people that settled this country did it, then try to imitate them. Stop crying and start doing!

                                    Reply#16 - Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:14 PM EDT

                                    The generalized economic system of society, in which the "Educators" are trying to obtain footing to gather, maintain, and protect a reward given for their investment, is steeped in a social history of the world where each group looks out for itself to the exclusion of others. What didn't work historically, to resolve the general woes and conditions of the only cognitive thinking species on the face of the planet, won't work now; and the "Educators" of society should know it. There is no place to go, from a society which has built-in failure concepts which undermine attempts to move society as a whole forward. You know what is coming. Better to step up, get it over and done with, rather than to prolong the misery you inflict upon one another.

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