NYPD clash with Occupy Wall Street protesters, make arrests

Mary Altaffer / AP

Demonstrators affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street protests confront New York City police officers as they march on the street in the Wall Street area, Friday, Oct. 14, in New York.

Mary Altaffer / AP

A New York City police officer shoves a demonstrator affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street protests as they march through the streets in the Wall St. area, Friday, Oct. 14, in New York.

Andrew Gombert / EPA

New York City Police Department Inspector Cardona (3-R) hits protester Felix Rivera (green shirt), as people participating the Occupy Wall Street clash with Police in the financial district, after the city postponed the planned cleaning of the park where the protestors have set up camp in New York,on Oct. 14.The movement, which is protesting a wide variety of issues and started in September, is continuing in New York and is spreading to other cities around the country.

Mary Altaffer / AP

New York City police officers arrest a demonstrator affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street protests after they started marching through the streets near Wall St., Friday, Oct. 14, in New York. The cleanup of a plaza in lower Manhattan where protesters have been camped out for a month was postponed early Friday, sending cheers up from a crowd that had feared the effort was merely a pretext to evict them.

 From msnbc.com news services:

New York City police clashed with Occupy Wall Street protesters and arrested at least four of them after owners of the park being occupied ditched cleanup plans that demonstrators claimed were a pretext to evict them.

Amid what was described as a celebratory march by the protesters, scattered clashes were reported with police, who bulked up their presence at the Zuccotti Park location, which has been home for hundreds of the protesters.

Elsewhere, police in Seattle earlier confirmed that they had arrested 10 people, while in Denver authorities moved in after protesters ignored a deadline to leave.

For more on this developing story click here.

 See a 360 degree view of the protesters' encampment and more coverage of demonstrations across the country on PhotoBlog.

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Although this sort of violence against peaceful protesters is nothing new, one important aspect that is often overlooked is the prevalence of 'White Shirts' engaging in the abuse. White shirts are senior level commanders within the NYPD-lieutenants, captains or inspectors-and it should be no surprise why they are the ones engaging in most of the violence. After all, we know that the NYPD is a disciplined police force, but what are the risks of telling blue collar cops to beat on those protesting the same people who stole their pensions? For coverage from Liberty Plaza, check out Democracy Now!'s archive of reports:

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

There's a term for that. It is called....."Law Enforcement"

Its what happens to violent individuals when they demonstrate that they cannot be responsible protesters like the gallant Tea Party activists. (which, by the way, have had ZERO arrests I may add).

You break the law and cause destruction you go to jail.

Yeah....sucks huh?

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 PM EDT

THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEHIND YOU OCCUPY WALL ST!!!! GIVE EM HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 10 votes
#1.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT

What is their goal? Camp out until the banks give them money? I think it's funny to watch. Where do they shower?

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:41 PM EDT

One of the pictures showed guys wearing gas masks, probably to getpast the BO.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:47 PM EDT

So long as we see everyday news telling Us that wages will be stagnant until at least 2021, at the same time that CEO pay has gone up 28% so far for this year, this protests will not stop.

People all around the world have finally open their eyes as to what is going on on every country of every language, regarding the modern economics of dominance ( A form of slavery, economic slavery that is ).

The entire world economic/capitalist system has been rigged in order to get more work out of people, with less benefits and/or pay, and if we add to that, an element of taxation from the Governments around the world, you get the idea.

This is not a conspiracy theory, this is two systems ( Capitalism and Governance ) working in rapport.

This is how we end up with Asian sweat shops, and Child labor.

Remember and don't ever forget this, any time you see these companies reaping billions of dollars in profits, at the same time they pay their CEO's millions in salaries: Someone along the chain of production or distribution pay for that, be it child labor, sweat shops, low wages, no benefits, skeleton crews performing the jobs of full staffed crews, etc, etc.

So long as we keep buying Chinese plastics from Wal-Mart and the likes of it ( Target, Sears, K mart Etc ), this situation will not stop.

So don't forget, every time you buy something " CHEAP ", someone along the line suffered the consequences of that item being " Such a good cheap deal ".

Also, the " Cheaper we buy " the worst the cycle gets, because they ( The Capitalists ) keep lowering wages, since we don't need better salaries anymore because everything they offer Us is so " Cheap ".

In that way they can give themselves multi-million dollar salaries, bonuses, and rig legislation in order not to pay taxes, at the same time that they cannot afford a .25C/Hr raise for their workers.


  • 8 votes
#1.5 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:56 PM EDT

Too bad the Tea Party only includes a limited segment of American society in their ranks and support the 1% and their 40% hold on wealth. Do some really think they can continue this unstable economic system, that is meant to only benefit a few?

    #1.6 - Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:49 PM EDT
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    I appreciate the movement the protesters are engaging in and am certain that the photos that are being posted are probably the more extreme facial and physical stances. With that being said, keep it up and I pray everyone remains safe. There will always, always, always be those in the group who will go to extremes and that includes police and demonstrators.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:44 AM EDT

    Gee Michelle, looks like you've rationalized the whole thing but guess what? This ain't your typical anything. It's a new day. It is not extreme to demand our rights. The cops will inflict pain to those to demand to loudly. What the authorities have missed is the same as the political conditions that sparked the Arab Spring, all the money and power at the top and nothing including hope for the rest of the people. This is not a rationalization, it's the reality that a revolution has begun. It's time for justice. No matter how this revolution unfolds it will never be the same as before. The internet assures us of that.

    • 5 votes
    #2.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:57 PM EDT

    but you see their is the other problem as they are now wanting to control that, already law can snoop in your emails, your face book post, your cell phones with out a warrant or due legal process all under the home land crap rules, they want to stop the terror threat, empty prisons and drop them over their and tell them if you survive you win a chance to be free again, bet you in 90 days they would all would ask for peace and throw down weapons.

      #2.2 - Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:23 PM EDT
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      It seems to me that the white shirts are more like "brown shirts". What's with hitting protestors?

      • 6 votes
      Reply#3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:44 AM EDT

      To show that they are MACHO.

      American democracy, my ass.

      • 3 votes
      #3.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM EDT

      Were you there? Does the picture tell the whole story? Why do you assume it is the police officer that started the confrontation? Leave your bias to yourself unless you know the whole situation.

      • 14 votes
      #3.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:41 AM EDT

      There's a term for that. It is called....."Law Enforcement"

      Its what happens to violent individuals when they demonstrate that they cannot be responsible protesters like the gallant Tea Party activists. (which, by the way, have had ZERO arrests I may add).

      You break the law and cause destruction you go to jail.

      Yeah....sucks huh?

      • 4 votes
      #3.3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT

      Not many, but they're out there....

      http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20084409-245/tea-party-leader-arrested-on-piracy-charges/

      Oh, and why would authorities arrest people who they fund?

      • 1 vote
      #3.4 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:25 PM EDT
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      How is throwing bottles being peaceful? Time to send the social parasites, entitlement whores and misery pimps back to their mommy and daddy's basements.

      • 9 votes
      Reply#4 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:45 AM EDT

      It might be little crowded down there with you and your couch potatoe conservatives!

      • 8 votes
      #4.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT

      Yea crowded with whiny little b*tches. Time to go "Tiananmen Square" on their punk a$$es.

      • 4 votes
      #4.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:04 AM EDT

      yabecoo "Time to send the social parasites, entitlement whores and misery pimps back to their mommy and daddy's basements."

      @"yabecoo",,

      ,Thanks for your kind, well thought out post . Yours is exactly the kind of name calling, reactionary, uneducated mind set that allows and supports the insidious bank fraud this protest is all about.

      ______________________________________________________________

      There is NOTHING wrong with the idea of taking the protest to the doorsteps of the corrupt, self serving, treasonous bankers who crashed our economy in 2008.

      ______________________________________________________

      THEY have already reached into the homes of the American Middle class, stolen their homes, destroyed their jobs and families, corrupted our system and Constitution. Absolutely destroyed lives.

      I have NO pity for the fate of the corrupt rich tied to bailouts, the destruction of the economy, or board of the disgusting, evil, treasonous "Federal Reserve", nor our worthless politicians on their payroll.

      Obama sure as hell as done NOTHING to prosecute the thieves who ruined our economy nor to protect the public in any way. In fact, he has kept the same wall street rats that infested the White House under George "W"(orst president in history) Bush!!!!!

      ___________________________________________________________

      This protest will continue to grow and these protesters are actually doing more to fight for our country, our freedom , and our constitutional rights than all of our brave, honest soldiers being misused in two immoral, USELESS wars started by the same republican criminals who own (and are owned by ), our CORRUPT BANKING SYSTEM.

      LONG LIVE THIS PROTEST & THANKS TO ALL OF THE PROTESTERS !!!!!!!

      • 10 votes
      #4.3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:12 AM EDT

      When people are having a peaceful protest and one or more of them start in throwing bottles or engaging in other violence, the chances are that they belong to the police or government and are acting as agents-provocateurs. In other words they're there to give police an excuse to come down on the protesters with a heavy hand. If someone next to me threw a bottle I would restrain them and drag them to the police line, push them right at a cop and tell them to keep their cops on their own side of the line... You can spot them because they usually try to hide their faces with kerchiefs, masks and such. It was a favorite government tactic back in the 60s. Also, look for the people who start suggesting that the peaceful protesters engage in violence- its a dead giveaway.

      I agree with EricSimon- the situation we have in America now has a close resemblance to Germany of the 1920s and 1930s. We are becoming everything I was told we were against when I grew up and when I was in the Army. The fascism is now becoming blatant.

      • 5 votes
      #4.4 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:17 AM EDT

      Close, I see the wake and bake started early this morning. Have another hit off that bong.

      • 2 votes
      #4.5 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:17 AM EDT

      Yabecoo - you are clearly a JERK! I am NOT a hippie, don't smoke pot, drink or even smoke, I have a job, a house, and am not being directly effected by what is happening in the country. But I AM sympathetic to their cause and know that many hard working people who have played by all the rules - are now hurting due to the actions of CEO's, the banks, politicians, and brown-nosers of the wealthy. Go ahead and be smug but there is karma and people like you just might be on the other side of this issue when you lose everything you have worked for. BTW - I am not a "liberal", a democrat, or a conservative or Republican. I am an Independant who votes for the candidate and not the part. But I am horrified by the "let them eat cake" attitude coming out of Washington. Perhaps they should remember just where that attitude brought the French aristocrats! People are marching peacefully now but if something is not done and done soon - maybe they will be armed in the future.

      • 8 votes
      #4.6 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:50 AM EDT

      Throwing bottles and disobeying police orders is not peaceful. The Occupy Wall Street protest is effecting other people who work and run businesses in the area. What about their needs? I'd say they are being the jerks and you are an enabler of them.

      • 4 votes
      #4.7 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:00 PM EDT

      You are a disgrace, period.

      • 1 vote
      #4.8 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT

      Yeah I agree. The banks were at fault? Hmmm. Last time I checked if you couldn't afford it, you didn't buy it. Over spending on a mortgage you can't afford withdrawls money from the economy. A couple months of bad luck and you can't pay mortgage, your credit card debt is up, and it was all due to your choice. I see your point completely. Did I ever tell you about the Easter Bunny?

      • 1 vote
      #4.9 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:25 PM EDT

      yabecoo, please go back and read #4.4.

      • 1 vote
      #4.10 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:29 PM EDT

      Merlin:

      engaging in other violence, the chances are that they belong to the police or government and are acting as agents-provocateurs

      If that is the case then the protestors should turn on them (the bottle throwers) and bash their heads in. Unless you may be wrong.

        #4.11 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:30 PM EDT
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        So when Wall Street becomes angry they can use police to abuse. Wonderful country we live it. :)

        • 3 votes
        Reply#5 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:48 AM EDT

        There's a term for that. It is called....."Law Enforcement"

        Its what happens to violent individuals when they demonstrate that they cannot be responsible protesters like the gallant Tea Party activists. (which, by the way, have had ZERO arrests I may add).

        You break the law and cause destruction you go to jail.

        Yeah....sucks huh?

        • 2 votes
        #5.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:10 PM EDT

        if i understand your use of the phrase "law inforcement" correctly, the exercise of physical force and power is what the law offers to those it protects, that is" the law (justice in greek) is the interest of the stronger party", the quote being thrasymachus in book i of plato's republic.

        what happens when a stronger party appears? the law changes!

        • 2 votes
        #5.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:18 PM EDT

        Nice try....

        But protecting the rights of individuals just so they can defecate on police cars, urinate in public and trash the local businesses is not interest of the stronger party. It is of the interest of the general public....

        Had you study logic instead of gay studies and global warming you would have known that...

        Nice try though...

        • 3 votes
        #5.3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:24 PM EDT
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        I'm sorry, I must have missed the violence. Were water cannons, dogs and tear gas used? If you're asked to move after a month, then move. If you're going to protest something, at least have a point.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#6 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:48 AM EDT

        Did you listen to the program by Howard Stern on Sirius? He had people on his program that were at the protest and they didn't have a clue why they were there. Too funny!!! It was hilarious.

          #6.1 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:36 PM EDT
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          I stand by the protesters 100%. When are the police going to bring in the tanks, swat vehicles and water cannons. This is America, freedon of speech and freedom of assembly. Mayor Bloomberg is the Mayor. Why does he allow all this police activity to happen? Of course, he is one of the billionaires that the people are protesting.

          • 7 votes
          Reply#7 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:52 AM EDT

          actually he is not...that is the inherent hypocrisy is the BS movement.

          • 1 vote
          #7.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:00 AM EDT

          yabecoo "Time to send the social parasites, entitlement whores and misery pimps back to their mommy and daddy's basements."

          @"yabecoo",,

          ,Thanks for your kind, well thought out post . Yours is exactly the kind of name calling, reactionary, uneducated mind set that allows and supports the insidious bank fraud this protest is all about.

          ______________________________________________________________

          There is NOTHING wrong with the idea of taking the protest to the doorsteps of the corrupt, self serving, treasonous bankers who crashed our economy in 2008.

          ______________________________________________________

          THEY have already reached into the homes of the American Middle class, stolen their homes, destroyed their jobs and families, corrupted our system and Constitution. Absolutely destroyed lives.

          I have NO pity for the fate of the corrupt rich tied to bailouts, the destruction of the economy, or board of the disgusting, evil, treasonous "Federal Reserve", nor our worthless politicians on their payroll.

          Obama sure as hell as done NOTHING to prosecute the thieves who ruined our economy nor to protect the public in any way. In fact, he has kept the same wall street rats that infested the White House under George "W"(orst president in history) Bush!!!!!

          ___________________________________________________________

          This protest will continue to grow and these protesters are actually doing more to fight for our country, our freedom , and our constitutional rights than all of our brave, honest soldiers being misused in two immoral, USELESS wars started by the same republican criminals who own (and are owned by ), our CORRUPT BANKING SYSTEM.

          LONG LIVE THIS PROTEST & THANKS TO ALL OF THE PROTESTERS !!!!!!!

          • 8 votes
          #7.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:04 AM EDT

          There's a term for that. It is called....."Law Enforcement"

          Its what happens to violent individuals when they demonstrate that they cannot be responsible protesters like the gallant Tea Party activists. (which, by the way, have had ZERO arrests I may add).

          You break the law and cause destruction you go to jail.

          Yeah....sucks huh?

          • 2 votes
          #7.3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:11 PM EDT

          Dennis,

          Neither freedom of speech nor freedom of assembly grants permission to engage in anarchy. I think the NYPD (not a fan BTW) has shown tremendous restraint given the size and duration of this protest. Speaking of duration, for a group of people who are so concerned about the use of the taxpayers' money, they seem very unconcerned about the cost to the taxpayers of NYC for their month long rant. Make your point already and go home.

          • 2 votes
          #7.4 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:40 PM EDT

          Close the FED:

          and our constitutional rights than all of our brave, honest soldiers being misused in two immoral, USELESS wars started by the same republican criminals who own (and are owned by ), our CORRUPT BANKING SYSTEM.

          Most of the past wars (& Police Actions) were started by the Democrat Presidents in power at the time.

          WWII: Roosevelt

          Korea: Truman with UN

          VietNam: Kennedy with UN

          Somalia: Clinton with UN

          Desert Storm: Bush 1st with a coalition of the willing

          Afghanistan & Operation Iraqi Freedom: Bush 2nd with a coalition of the willing

          Libyia: Obama and NATO

          Somalia: Obama - alone

          The money for President Obama's campaign came from the Rich like Soros, Wall Street Hedge funds, the Large Bankers like Goldman Sach, etc. Do you really think for a moment the President wants to actually see anything come of this protest?

          All this is being done as a diversion from his failed policies paid for by Soros and others that fear President Obama won't be re-elected. The work by President Obama is not done yet for these Rich Fat Cats and the protestors on Wall Street are the fall guys. Too sad, they are being duped into this.

          Once the heads start being rolled, the President will drop his support like a ton of bricks.

            #7.5 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:00 PM EDT
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            Government of the people, by the people, for the people is no longer sufficient.

            It should be government of all the people, for all the people without exception, by public servants dedicated to these propositions.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#8 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:55 AM EDT

            the streets belong to the people. that is all.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#9 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT

            Goes to show that "Truth to power.", will neither be listened to, or tolerated.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#10 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:00 AM EDT

            I work two blocks down from this, and can say that these pictures, although eye-catching, are, at best, taken out of context, and at worst, absolutely misleading as to what the actual situation on the ground is. The protesters may have a point, but on a practical level, they make it a pain for a lot of people to get to work in the morning.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#11 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:02 AM EDT

            Downtown NYC

            "The protesters may have a point, but on a practical level, they make it a pain for a lot of people to get to work in the morning."

            That is unfortunate "Downtown", but please keep in mind that the corrupt, greedy wall street hedge fund managers and the evil, corrupt to the core "Federal Reserve" make life a pain and destroy families and the foundation of our Republic,,,,,,,, EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.

            Patience, it takes a while to ferret out the rats, but it is good for what America is supposed to stand for. Freedom and liberty.

            • 7 votes
            #11.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:22 AM EDT

            Sorry that you're inconvenienced but there are families loosing their jobs and homes over this. People can't support their families and can't get adequate healthcare. The line must be drawn somewhere. Your inconvenience is nothing in comparison to what others are suffering due to the greed and corruption of Wall Street and the big banks.

            • 6 votes
            #11.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:32 AM EDT

            Awwwww - poor baby. Well, at least you HAVE a job. At least for now. When you don't perhaps you will appreciate just why these people are protesting.

            • 3 votes
            #11.3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:19 PM EDT

            TRMS and Kathy, the protesters are so damn quick to remind everyone of their right to assemble (there actually is no Constitutional right to protest), and yet you so blithly dismiss the rights of other citizens to assemble (get to work) and to engage in the conduct of their lives. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

            • 2 votes
            #11.4 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:44 PM EDT

            Government deregulation of fannie and freddie (see Chris Dodd and Barney Frank) is a major cause of this. Figure like this. You pay rent at 650 per month, but you figure you might as well be paying a mortgage. So you look for a house. Wow t...his one looks great, and it's only $840/month !! Well that's only $200 more than what we pay now, and we'd own it. Let's do it. So they did, even though they weren't prime lenders. That alone takes $200 out of the economy. Enter credit cards and debt. Along comes health issues, car issues, add that to the millions of Americans that are now putting 30-40% of their rent into mortgage and it will take an effect on the economy. Add Obama and his ideals and progress stops. Not a hard equation in reality.

            I don't have a credit card, if I can't pay cash, I can't buy it. If I pay more in taxes and fees, I spend less on goods. Cut my taxes so I can spend more. The real bailout that is needed is for college grads. If you actually graduated, we'll eliminate all student loans. For me, that's $449/month for the next 30 years. 2/3 is the cost of interest. 46k turned into 122k. Obama loves to spend money and he needs more taxes to do so. Welcome to what you voted for.

            • 2 votes
            #11.5 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:51 PM EDT

            No inconvenience in Los Angeles. Here, many of them are camping around city hall and have had a few marches since they have been there with no police incidents.

            • 1 vote
            #11.6 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:01 PM EDT

            There a constitutional right to peaceful assembly and that's what they were doing until the police tried to infringe on that right. I haven't yet seen one picture ANYWHERE of a protester being violent or "deficating on a police car" as someone else on here suggested. I'm sure if that was happening a conservative blogger would have gotten a picture somehow and put it up somewhere. I have only seen pictures of cops hitting and shoving and pushing and protesters trying to peacefully hold their ground. Dr. King did the same thing and they said the same thing about the people that were with him. This is how change begins. When the problems are so deeply entrenched as these are the only way things change is for people to bring attention to it.

            I have not dismissed anyone's right to get to work. This comment said that it was DIFFICULT" for him to get to work. I'm just saying his inconvenience is not as important as what the protestors are against.

            • 1 vote
            #11.7 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:02 PM EDT

            His inconvenience is not as important as what the protestors are against - to the protestors and to you, not to the person inconvenienced. If the protestors are interfering with others going to work, moving about, conducting business, living - then they are not peacefully assembled and the police have the authority to limit their movements so as not to interfere with the rights of others. If you are ordered by the police to move and you don't move - you are NOT peacefully holding your ground. I'm not saying whether the protestors are right or wrong - only that you don't get to be wherever you want to be, for however long you want to be there, completely ignoring the effect you are having on others and still claim to be non-violent and peaceful. Sorry, but no.

              #11.8 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:12 PM EDT

              You have to get a permit to assemble. If you break the rules of the permit, the police will come in and disassemble your group by any means they deem necessary for the re-establishment of the law.

                #11.9 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:06 PM EDT
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                All of those officers are fat as hell... what gives?

                • 2 votes
                Reply#12 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:02 AM EDT

                Too much time in the doughnut shop.

                • 2 votes
                #12.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:59 AM EDT
                Reply

                .

                • 3 votes
                Reply#13 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM EDT

                You're a liar! How dare you make such a statement!

                I demand an apology!

                • 2 votes
                #13.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT
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                People are hurting, for yeas nothing has been done to ease middle class burden, Obama couldn't push, Republicans are HAPPY TO DO NOTHING. Only abortions that they talk about, instead of giving a job to that poor young woman that WILL DO abortion, because she has no job.

                CONGRESS HAS TWO WEEKS VACATION PER ONE WEEK OF WORK. WE DON'T NEED THEM,

                • 4 votes
                Reply#14 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:05 AM EDT

                Whoops wrong article!

                  Reply#15 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:11 AM EDT

                  The real story is the thousands of people who peacefully prevented the eviction by simply being there. I just came from zucatti square

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#16 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:19 AM EDT

                  Funny you never saw violence like this at a Tea Party rally. I guess conservatives are just a better class of people than liberals.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#17 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:22 AM EDT

                  If you notice Charlie, the only people being "violent" are the police. Look again. They are playing psychological tricks on you.

                  • 1 vote
                  #17.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

                  The Tea Party movement was "real" for only a short time until mainstream politics took control of it. Now it is a nothing more than a novelty branch of the republican party. That may be the reason the occupy movement is trying to stay politically neutral. Protesters are not democrats or republicans. The protesters are Americans.

                  • 4 votes
                  #17.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:02 PM EDT

                  Hey HollowheadHolly. There's a term for that. It is called....."Law Enforcement"

                  Its what happens to violent individuals when they demonstrate that they cannot be responsible protesters like the gallant Tea Party activists. (which, by the way, have had ZERO arrests I may add).

                  You break the law and cause destruction you go to jail.

                  Yeah....sucks huh?

                  • 2 votes
                  #17.3 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:14 PM EDT

                  Troll

                  • 4 votes
                  #17.4 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 PM EDT

                  Charlie, excuse me while I puke! The Tea Party people are brown-nosers of the wealthy (Koch Brothers etc.) and are not interested in helping the middle class. A rat is a rat no matter how they pretend.

                  • 1 vote
                  #17.5 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:23 PM EDT

                  Kathy, you must not have gone to any of the Tea Party rallies. Most are honest, hard working Middle Class familes that want a smaller government and less taxes. This President and his policies of spend, spend and more spending are too much for any country to handle. The OWS protestors should be protesting Washington and the White House, not Wall Street.

                  Some of those corporate big wigs should be investigated for fraud and mishandling of their customer's money right along side some in Washington. But to do that, they need to have the spot light on them, not on the protestors protesting something they know little about. For most of the OWS it is a "happening". They are there just to be there.

                  They are actually the designated bait.

                    #17.6 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:17 PM EDT
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                    Fantastic job by leftist journalists in selecting photos favorable to the protestors and presenting the police as the bad guys. Of course this was expected. Let's all remember one thing. These protesters clashing with the police have been fully embraced by the democratic party as their on. Thery are definitely not the family types that go to tea parties.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#18 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:27 AM EDT

                    I find it interesting that you think these photos look good for the protesters. I am part of the protest, and I actually very much disapprove of MSNBC's portrayal of it. They make it appear as though it was a violent clash, when really there was just some macho posturing by the police and the protesters peacefully standing their ground.

                    • 2 votes
                    #18.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

                    Holly, aren't you getting board? How many vacation days have you used up to help protest, and what are your goals? Another group thinking with emotion and not logic, keep it up, I find it amusing!!!

                      #18.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:00 PM EDT
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                      Go Occupy Wall Street-did anyone catch O'Riely's comments?? what a lying hore, but he is well paid by the same people who brought this country to its knees-greed greed greed

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#19 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:30 AM EDT

                      lets forget about what Barney Frank and his lover did, right...... that had nothing to do with anything...

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#20 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:32 AM EDT

                      I WATCHED IT ON LIVESTREAM AND THIS ISNT WHAT I SAW. YOU HAVE MISCHARACTERIZED THIS MSNBC. The police and protesters didn't "clash." The police ATTACKED, and the protesters peacefully stood their ground. AND YOU KNOW IT. It was a JOYFUL moment for the protesters because THEY WON. I used to trust you MSNBC but not anymore, you are barely a hair better than FOX.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#21 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:32 AM EDT

                      These are American citizens the New York cops are acting like storm troopers against.

                      It is clear that they, New York cops, protect the interest of the rich not the average American citizen who is just as equally important and valueable to this Country than as a rich American citizen.

                      To 'peaceably assemble' is an American Constitutional Right.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#22 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

                      Police departments around the country are actively recruiting marines. If your are a marine you are automatically admitted, no questions asked. They know things are going to get worse. Government needs to recruit marines into the police departments so they can keep the American citizens under tighter control without it looking like a military attack against our own citizens. Evidently we are losing our freedom and constitutional rights and the powers that be are preparing to stop any anyone that doesn't like it.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#23 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:38 AM EDT

                      Beating up unarrmed protestors, many of whom are probably homeless, does not win over the support of the people. I hope those in charge know what they are doing, and the use of violence to squelch peaceful protests does not escalate into something more. President Oboma and his buddies need to realize this is a national issue, an outcry by the people in response to the failed economic policies of the last couple of years. Yes, we are different than those in the Mideast - we have the right to vote and ultimately to replace those elected officials who the majority believe are responsible. This is true, of course, only as long as we have free elections - seeing police beating civilians in the streets in more than one major city across this country does not instil confidence in our democratic society.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#24 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:41 AM EDT

                      Look, Lame Duck,

                      They cannot continue this like they are. They are trashing the place and it now smells like hell. They are defecating on the American flag. Most of these people are disgusting and are the slime of the earth. They should close off the area they are in, arrest all of them, fine them for three times what it will take to clean up the place and pay for all the police that had to work to keep them from destroying the place. Also, throw them in jail for trashing Wall St.

                      A lot of these people should have gotten beat up long ago. Bunch of spoiled brats that think they can do whatever they want to do, no matter how wrong they are.

                      • 3 votes
                      #24.1 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:54 AM EDT

                      There's a term for that. It is called....."Law Enforcement"

                      Its what happens to violent individuals when they demonstrate that they cannot be responsible protesters like the gallant Tea Party activists. (which, by the way, have had ZERO arrests I may add).

                      You break the law and cause destruction you go to jail.

                      Yeah....sucks huh?

                      • 2 votes
                      #24.2 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:15 PM EDT
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                      The police need to make them clean up the mess. At gun point if necessary.

                      Then take them to a new location, and change the protest to "Occupy the Hudson River", and throw them in it.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#25 - Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:48 AM EDT
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