...and your hateful remark is relevant because? Boomers make up a pretty large percentage of the country and if you're lucky (which I doubt you'll live past 60 with your disgusting, negative attitude) you too will be that age too. Boomers won't be around for long, but many of them have children + grandchildren they are fighting for. Have some respect. Your comment adds no value to what's happening and just shows how ignorant + childish you are.

I have a novel idea for a way to get all those "dirty hippies" from demonstrating. Why doesn't the government start addressing the issues of income inequality, corporate corruption, campaign finance reform, corporate personhood, too-big-to-fail banks, voter suppression and union-busting? If they did all that, the "dirty hippies" wouldn't have anything to protest. Simple!

Good for these students. Younger people need to understand how terrible this system is and how many people are hurt by the wealthy's GREED

Until they come up with a coherent message or solution to the problem they won't get my sympathy.

At least the TP has a message, OWS doesn't seem to.

If they are for less corporatism, corruption in government and the end to bailouts I don't see the difference between the TP and OWS, except that one goes after the source and the other goes after the effect.

Skiddy: I'm no bum. I'm educated, employed full-time, own my own home, pay my taxes on time and I fully support occupations across the country. I'm fighting to stop the deterioration of the middle class, including you, whether you like it or not!

Anyone else want to stand up and be counted as one of the 'dirty hippies' fighting for economic equality?

Funny thing about Berkeley, is that most if not all of the people who actually live there are the 1%, look at the housing prices in Berkeley and then tell me these folks are not part of the problem.

Let's protest because we are not happy with our position in life! It is someone else's responsibility, not our own! Let's sit on our butt and beg for a handout instead of working for it! How bout ya'll go occupy a job and make yourself middle class?

Evidently, the Marxists will never stop until they have destroyed everything about America that made us the envy of the world. The poor produce the highest number of offspring, which they can't feed, and then DEMAND that someone else take care of THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

The ONLY way we will save ANY vestige of this country is secession. We MUST split into two parts: the Marxist states, and the free states. No amount of debate will solve the growing gulf between the two schools of thought. The Marxist states can confiscate all the wealth from their rich (but the rich will leave for the free states if at all possible), but they will burn through that money in no-time, and then they will be broke.

The free states will have to heavily invest in a strong border wall to keep out all the people trying to sneak in from the Marxist states for a "better life" once they learn they have been sold a lie. We cannot let them in. If these people are willing to force Marxism down the throats of the unwilling, they deserve to suffer the consequences they get.

joey go f... yourself.then get a job,and you can shat in your living room if you want.

@Skiddy, machinehead, et. al.

Whatever makes you think these protesters are modern day hippies who refuse to work. Ya know, you couldn't be more wrong. People who make blanket descriptions of many things in this world are, for the most part, ignorant. What you just said bears absolutely no resemblance to reality.

Occupy protesters are people of all ages and all walks of life. They include, among others, Iraq war veterans who fought for this country and have every right to exercise the rights they fought to preserve. Shamar Thomas and Scott Olsen come to mind. Many protesters are teachers, longshoremen, firefighters, and even some politicians. Note that this article was about Robert Reich, a former cabinet member from the Clinton era and an economist. I have a younger brother who lives in Berkeley and has a thriving law practice in Oakland who fully supports the Occupy Oakland branch of the movement. By the way, he's a 1%er. He and everybody else is protesting the unfairness in our society - how we are subject to a "ruling class" that doesn't represent the people, only their corporate owners.

The type of people you refer to as "hippies" are present at these venues - people who actually don't want to work, but they are an insignificant minority of the protesters as I understand it. The vast majority of people at these protest are 1.)working; 2.)want to work; and 3.)are alarmed by the exploding income gap.

You say you're "hardly getting by". Can't you see how you're being exploited? Or maybe you dropped out of high school and are getting what you deserve. Graduated from college? You're still being exploited if you are "barely getting by". Maybe you make a lot of money and squander it at Vegas or Atlantic City. Maybe you make a good income and squander your money in some other way.

Here's the Deal, Skiddy, and MachineHead, and roos7a, and you others out there who are fact-challenged - who have belief systems that are not well grounded in fact. You can sit there and carp about something you either don't understand or are unwilling to understand - perhaps because of your ingrained prejudices. There's paradigm shift beginning in our society that has the potential to lay the groundwork for a society where everyone has a chance to get ahead. This would be the society our Founding Fathers envisioned. This groundswell has the potential of nothing short of giving "WE THE PEOPLE" our country back (to steal a worn-out phrase from the fringe right).

Question? I see you say a" society where everyone has a chance to get ahead". Is there going to be some set of rules that stops someone from getting to far ahead of others. Will it stop new Gates,Allens,Waltons etc. from taking what they have created from becoming a new Microsoft, Apple, WalMart. Giving them a wealth that makes them a 1% of the 1%ers. Also the large part of our Founding Fathers owned slaves.

Well, well, well. I see the arrogant trollers are alive and well here, posting their egotism at every chance. I'm one of those boomers someone has already trashed. Fine. I have been very disappointed with my generation to put it mildly. We learned nothing, apparently, from the lie of the Gulf of Tonkin that led to needless slaughter of tens of thousands of Americans in Vietnam. Imagine that? Our government lied to us? Nothing has changed. So we protested back then. And we protested the lying social path scum bag Richard Nixon too! He should have gone to jail, but at least he had the decency to resign before all the sh*t hit the fan.

But then we got The Actor, General Electrics trained mouthpiece, Ronald Reagan. Oh, and a "new" economic philosophy: Supply Side Economics. Or, as better said by George H. W. Bush in the 1979 campaign, "Voo-doo economics." Of course, we now know it has failed our economy by deregulating and rewriting laws so that we are left with retail and fast-food jobs while manufacturing jobs were off-shored! At the same time, the new laws allowed for mega-mergers, union busting, and the collective prostitution of banks and Wall Street. All of this amounted to an investors wet dream of making money off of "other people's" money (read mortgage debts) and we know where that led us. But have no fear! Bush and Obama made sure those investors on Wall Street and in the "too big to fail" banks had their bad bets covered. Meanwhile....it is business as usual for those who have money and those scrambling for what few descent paying jobs there are!

Someone forgot to tell the "geniuses" of the Chicago School of Supply Side economics that supply does not do you much good when the middle class (remember them?) does not have the resources to buy! Oops, just a little detail they forgot in logic.

Remember when the wealthy were glad to pay their share of taxes? From 1945 to 1970, the top tax bracket averaged around 85-90% tax! That is not a typo btw. So now the "new economy" has them paying less than half of what they paid during the Golden Years of America's economic output of the 1950's and 1960's. Oh, but don't let that bother you....because Ronnie Reagan said the "rich needed more money to create millions of good paying jobs in America!" Remember that BS promise? Oh yeah, we are just swimming in all those wonderful jobs with great benefits, are we not?!!!

So enjoy the "new economy" where our government is nothing more than the NASCAR drivers of Wall Street and the too big to fail banks! Honestly, our "public servants" should wear the decals and patches on their clothes so we can REALLY see who they "represent" in D.C.

I think the only way we will ever begin to get a real government that helps our country is to GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS. But I won't hold my breath on that, for it has been MONEY that has fueled this entire meltdown and destruction of the middle class. Check that, GREED and MONEY.

Nice post Russell-2157151...however, there are just too many lazy thinking people in this country who would not know they were being exploited if it was written on their arse!!!

General Electrics trained mouthpiece, Ronald Reagan.

Like this one?

Oh? You were saying? I don't recall Ronald Reagan having the President of GE whispering into his ear at every news briefing, convention, and meeting?

Any reason why you didn't put down this President as the mouthpiece? Oh he's Democrat and thus on your side. I get it. Just like the Democrats were against Vietnam too... Oh wait they started that war and Nixon ended it.

I don't understand why the OWS is protesting Wall Street when it's this President and the Liberal Congress who was giving them money... Shouldn't they be protesting this President and the Democratic Congress (like uhmm Pelosi) for giving these Corporations all this money unless in reality this Protest is more about Politics and trying to keep Democrats in office. There is no way that could be the real reason for these protests could it.

All I see is a bunch of people with Jersey's. The moment it get's a little hot they'll just take them off and claim to be on your side all along. The best picture that captures this moment is the older lady and that kid behind her. Nothing but blank stares and idolization. Did somebody say brainwashed?

(Yes I know Republicans have the house after the Democraps got kicked out. Now, if we can only kick out all those who were in office and voted for the Bail Outs and Stimulus)

Socialism is a FAILED system and it fails with 100 per cent accuracy.

This is not spin just fact. Open a history book.

How can "educated" people fail to know history?

And knowing history why do they wish the cancer of socialism to metastasize in our country any more widely than it already has?

Appallingly, the hogs at the trough in the banks who shifted their casino-gambling losses to the public while keeping all the money in the house and in government who have created this mess will almost certainly never be brought to justice. They have already gotten away with the money which is no doubt offshore in obscured accounts. And they control the forces with the guns here. This is a no-win situation.

In such a situation about all good that is left is to create one's own modest opportunities in one's own small enterprise as best one can. That would amount to more at the end of the day than understandable but futile protests and justifiable but impotent anger.

On one occasion of personal conversation with Robert Reich, he was certainly an interesting man with the conviction of his ideas and ideals. But this is not the 1960s in America. Americans could afford, or wrongly thought they could afford, the self-indulgence of socialist experiments in the 1960s et seq. That clearly was not the case and America is now in the ditch. Note the Chinese have done the exact opposite - they have embraced a sort of capitalism - and they have advanced themselves as the US continues its decline.

These demonstrations may or may not have the desired political effect for the few at the top who are agitating them, but the poor schmucks who are out in the parks will unfortunately receive no benefit for their trouble - no jobs, no better future economic prospects, only arrests and bad colds.

Better to spend time trying to find a way to create your own opportunity. The government will not create an opportunity for anyone; the government is broke and broken.

Just one opinion.

There will never be enough of you paid fair right wing trolls or enough money to stop this movement. You people are so obvious it is ridiculous. I hope they are paying you well to turn against your own country men. You would rather would do the bidding for Corrupt Corporations than to do the right thing. I hope you sleep well at night.

You libs still don't get it! Socialism doesn't work! How many times are you idiots going to put this country through the ringer before you understand that your ideology is the problem along with your sorely misdirected anger at Wall Street! You should be protesting in front of the White House and the Congress as they are the ones giving money to Wall Street for their lobbyist votes! If you can look at the condition of France and Greece and any other Socialist country out there and still maintain that Socialism works...you are dumber than dumb and we should ship you over there immediately so you can suffer the truth firsthand. Morons!

Look, Russell, I'd rather represent myself than have you people represent me. I don't want handouts and freebies, I'd rather work for and be responsible for myself. I'm tired of paying for the non productive, I don't care who you say is out there protesting. I'm no Tea Partier, but looking at the pictures of both them and the "Occupiers" it appears the Tea Partiers are the ones who want jobs, and the "Occupiers" freebies. So go out and represent yourself, leave me alone.

Yep, pretty much the same thing they are trying in Syria.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE...

We are the 99%!!!

Steadfast & Diligent are the Occupy Wall Street participants, I am PROUD of you for keeping

these Wall Street CROOKS in the spotlight!

violence only begets violence

The national guard is weak compared to the masses. The people run America, no one else.

In my emails, conversations, news articles, meetings, the subject of Occupy always bubbles up in the conversations and messages.

The Occupy Movement has changed not only the American Conversation, it has also changed the American Conscience.

There is no going back. Occupy has become the Engine of Change.

The national guard is weak compared to the masses. The people run America, no one else.

I dunno. They did gun down some students in Ohio some time back...

Most of the National Guard is serving overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq, many of the National Guard members who have returned to the states and civilian life …are sitting next to the protesters, unless they are in the hospital with their sculls cracked from a tear gas canister.

So much has changed since they started the movement...yawn!

gopstomper, It must be nice to think that the people run this country but if that were true than we would have voted out the career politicians that not only allow for the country to go to the crapper but acctually finance it with their bailouts. It is not so much wallstreet we need to worry about it is the way we keep electing these politicians that serve only their own goals against what the people want. How about we start a cause that gets to the root of the problem. How about everyone try to vote the career politicians out and set term limits. Instead we get a nice puppet show about occupying wall street. As for the rest who think this is some big vehicle for change. Talk to me again in a year and let us see if there really was any change.

I am the 53%. The 53% that pays taxes. The same 53% that the other 47%, who live on government subsidies, demand pay more to the government. Raise taxes on the wealthiest 1%, and call it the "American Dream Tax".

T H A N K — Y O U !!!!,,,

___________________________________

,,,To all of the protesters who have volunteered their time, energy and personal safety to the most important national protest since the Viet Nam War.

The status quo also beat, insulted, killed, and jailed us for protesting Viet Nam. But we won and so will OWS.

Long live OWS !

You can't kill a just cause.

_______________________________

Evidently, the Marxists will never stop until they have destroyed everything about America that made us the envy of the world. The poor produce the highest number of offspring, which they can't feed, and then DEMAND that someone else take care of THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

The ONLY way we will save ANY vestige of this country is secession. We MUST split into two parts: the Marxist states, and the free states. No amount of debate will solve the growing gulf between the two schools of thought. The Marxist states can confiscate all the wealth from their rich (but the rich will leave for the free states if at all possible), but they will burn through that money in no-time, and then they will be broke.

The free states will have to heavily invest in a strong border wall to keep out all the people trying to sneak in from the Marxist states for a "better life" once they learn they have been sold a lie. We cannot let them in. If these people are willing to force Marxism down the throats of the unwilling, they deserve to suffer the consequences they get.

@key2joy:

I agree. The average citizen should do what he can (exercising his rights) to protest the "crooks".

However, these very "Occupy" camps are become more newsworthy than the actual reason for the protest. In a few weeks, most people aren't going to remember the initial reason the Occupy protests started.

And as I read articles regarding these elaborate protests, there is less-and-less information about the focus of the protest movements. All readers are getting is that they are apart of the 99% and that Wall Street needs to be punished.

@Tarzan....What "Government Subsidies" do the 47% you refer to live on? It can't be social security or unemployment, because those are paid for by the person receiving them or the company they worked for.

If you are referring to welfare, and all the various other food, energy, and temporary assistance that's available through the US Dept. of Health and Human Services the percentage of people getting help is about 8% of the total population that receives some form of assistance with 1.7% receiving most of their income (50% or more) from these programs.

And FYI, people whe get SS and unemployment benefits still have to pay income taxes on the money they get.

HISTORY DOES NOT REPEAT, BUT IT DOES RHYME

In the 60's the movements were galvanized as a result of the Vietnam War. Today, war does not move the needle very much in terms of moving the masses, but INEQUALITY does. As with the hippies of yesteryear, if these "occupy folks" actually vote, expect sweeping changes over the next 20 years.

MEMO TO BOB DYLAN: Bob, looks like time for some new tunes. Once you were young and foolish, but for these folks, you get to play elder statesman.

@Tarzan -

It's interesting how you and other Ruish/FoxNews addicts keep bringing up this "53%" boilerplate. Since you limit yourself to the right wing propaganda machine for your "news", you are unlikely to understand why the 47% are not eligible to pay Federal Income Tax. You don't hear anything about how many or most workers still get they're meager paychecks bled for payroll taxes, how they pay a disproportionate share of they're meager income for sales tax, and so forth. Rush/Fox don't mention these little nuggets, do they? All they harp about is 53% 53% 53% 53% Occupy scum, kids who need to "go get a (non-existent) job", and so forth. Ya see, this isn't about the 53% meme, not in the least. It's about the destruction of the American Dream for so many. It's about the inability for millions to get ahead no matter how hard they work. It's about the inability of so many educated people to find a job, even people who have MBAs and technical degrees. This isn't about the inability of poets and English majors to become contributing members of society, it's about the Big Money power players steadily leaching the lifeblood from the American People at large. There is a cabal of plutocrats and corporate oligarchs that have "We The People" in a chokehold. It's about the "vampire squids" who own the congress and state houses acting only in their own self-interests and against the interests of the people at large. It's about how the candidates (from both parties) are, in effect, selected for us to vote on in elections. It takes access to money to even run for office. It's the discouraging knowledge that money-grubbing politicians may get voted out of office election after election, only to get replaced by the same sleazy style of "sponsored" politicians, sponsored by the plutocrats and corporate oligarchs. Can you say Davey and Chucky Koch? And they're not the only ones.

We have a mess on our hands, Tarzan. I don't mean the protesters, I mean the corrupt ruling class than is robbing us blind and running this country (and us along with it) into the ground. This is a sinking ship, and these protesters are furiously trying to bail us out. So Tarzan (and your ideological kin), are you going to grab a pail and start bailing, or are you going to just sit back and denigrate those who are trying to save the ship?

Gp, sisters and brothers in Berkeley! From an Occupy Seattle believer and doer!!

Uh, your last sentence makes sense. The first, not so much.

One out of two aint bad!

mickymac-2942076

I'm starting to think that Glenn Beck may have bee on to something

words fail me...

Rorschach - did you really want to post the fact that you have nothing to say in response?

Come on, challenge your intellect. Make an argument against what Glenn Beck predicted would happen. And by make an argument, I don't mean tell me how you really feel about Glenn Beck. I figured that one out already.

Tell me why he was wrong to predict (months ago may I point out) that there would be anarchy, riots, and violence on the streets of America. Aren't we seeing some of that already?

Micky, you really do not want me to do that. Trust me. It'll just make you mad.

Yeah, Carl Icahn with his $500 million dollar deals, multi-billionaire Trump, the banking CEO's with their salaries of tens of millions of dollars a year, and now the Koch brothers trying to take over our electoral system, all those things have nothing to do with anything. I think you have some twirling around in your mind. Love democracy and our free country, or find someplace else to live.

Critical, what exactly do you mean by targets? What are you going to hit them with your purse?

@ Critical Thinker - Things might get heated in 2012, but let's hope there is no chaos with violence. Be careful what you wish for regarding targeting people. The left wing does not want to pick a fight it can't win being that most of our military and police forces are of the conservative mindset...as are most civilian gun owners. God forbid, we don't need another Civil War of brothers against brothers. The Left would get obliterated quickly....just saying.

2012 is going to be a very bad year for the american people, but really really bad for the rich and the Go-P/ tea Nuts. Once the chaos starts, they will be targets.

I saw video of the riots in Greece the other day and was scared to death of all the communist red flags, literally the "red flags". What scares me is that these dumbed down indulged masses have no idea where true socialism and communism. My family escaped to the USA from such a totalitarian country and I can say with true conviction and honesty that these children are playing with matches and lighter fluid. I love my 2nd amendment rights more than ever now.

It seems all of this protesting hasn't hurt CEO'S of Fannie Mae and the big banks from getting their Millions in Bonus'es this year. It' just business as usual. We need to take the money from the filthy rich and this includes movie stars and sports figures and redisdribute the money to the less fortunate. And it's time we Stop electing Millionaires to the White House. We need to put a poor man in the President's chair. Otherwise things will never change.

The "Occupiers" are beginning to arm themselves. So far, one has shot himself, one was mugged and shot with his own gun, one shot up the White House, and one was shot inside a university building yesterday. Obviously, armed liberals are more a threat to themselves than anyone else.

Tarzan you need to return to the jungle. I'm sure if you had a nickel to your name you wouldn't be saying that.

Hmmm.... First off, I agree with the others, your first sentence does not make sense. The Financial Banking/Wall Street Derivative trading is what got us into this Depression. That was made possible by the repeal of the 1936 Glass-Steagall Financial Reform Act. We cannot move forward until that Act is reinstated, PERIOD! What Jon Corzine has done between GS and MF was CRIMINAL under Glass-Steagall, as well is should be. The current sitting congress, et. al. does not have the incentive, brains, nor backbone to write this type of law and pass it in the interest of the majority. Jon Corzine will not go to jail, but I'd bet my Daddy's WWII medals that he's got at least a billion stashed offshore. That is why we must demand reinstatement. That law protects us. That the 1% has taken this financial ripoff global is pure unadulterated greed. That in and of itself, coupled with the moniker of 'In God We Trust,' is the most dangerous game on earth. That MSM has reported disinformation regarding the individuals, sans corporations, that make up the OWS movement speaks for itself. I think it was J. Gould who said he could pay a person 50 bucks to beat another person, and so on and so on until the 99% were completely at war with each other. In essence, people 'outside' his narrow world were there to be manipulated for his own gain or amusement. They have pillaged and plundered, pushed the middle class to the wall and into poverty and the 'plurocratic' expectation is for us to just lay down? I think not and I will not. Glenn Beck is a hater. It is so easy to spew hate, no brainer. Glenn needs to take responsibility for the terrorism he perpetuates with that hatred. Such as that lunatic listener whom Glenn convinced that the ACLU were terrorists. Loaded his car with weapons and took off cross country to 'kill.' Got pulled over in CO where he proceeded to have a gunfight with the local authorities. Glenn spurred this guy on with his usual solution to the worlds problems, secular hate. Glenn slices and dices the population and then creates the 'hate solution', with guns by god, like Democracy is live and let die. Go OWS! Reinstate Glass-Steagall so we can prosecute these criminals and be done with these robber barons.

The left wing does not want to pick a fight it can't win being that most of our military and police forces are of the conservative mindset...as are most civilian gun owners.

The Left would get obliterated quickly....just saying

A fallacy fear tactic the right loves to invoke.

First off, we all did this! We all lived comfortably beyond our means knowing the government was not paying for all the services it was offering, which it could have in boon years. Very few people spoke up in this country for years, and in the best years only half of voting age adults voted. We have allowed ourselves to be spoon fed lies and half-truths that lead to ignorant, one-sided blaming like MickyMac and others on this forum.

Social security is a great example. Social security should never have been a problem. We just borrowed from money collected strictly for that program to pay for other programs that we could not afford, and to give tax breaks to rich people, and undermine the security of the middle class. If we don't do anything to fix Social Security it still pays 80% of its obligations in 50 years. If we hadn't raided those funds for 30+ years under both Democratic and Republican dominated governments it would have been solvent for the next 50 years and beyond.

I would also like to point out that this system has been bought and paid for by the wealthy. People that get up in arms about how much of the overall tax burden they have need to realize that these people bought the politicians that structured the regulatory system to their advantage, that structured the tax system to their advantage, that structured the trade system to their advantage. It has rewarded them in ways that no one on this blog can possibly comprehend.

So yes I think they should pay for the system they built for themselves. Capital gains needs to go up for the wealthy. Income tax needs to go up for the wealthy. Corporate income tax needs to come down for small business, and go up for companies that bought and paid for a system that has only served the wealthy for the last 30 years.

AND, We all need to accept that the government is just going to have to do less for us all. We are going to have to accept reduced Social Security, and Medicare, but more because we didn't pay for it when we could than because it was a bad idea to begin with. WE ALL DID THIS! And the cuts that the not so Super Committee is making are crap. 1.2 or 1.6 trillion dollars over the next 10 years is about 1% of GDP, that won't cut it. We need more revinue and more cuts. The non-partisan congressional budget office says a minimum of 11 trillion dollars.

If you are old enough to be commenting on this blog, you enjoyed the benefits of the deficit spending in this country in either artificially low taxes or unfunded benefits (if you disagree, you just are unaware of all the things that has bought for us), but we were living on our credit card. Either way, the standard of living in the United States has been artificially high, starting with Regan, and continuing with every government elected since. We all did this, and we need to undo it. We can do it gradually starting now, or follow the route of Greece in ten years.

T H A N K — Y O U !!!!,,,

___________________________________

,,,To all of the protesters who have volunteered their time, energy and personal safety to the most important national protest since the Viet Nam War.

The status quo also beat, insulted, killed, and jailed us for protesting Viet Nam. But we won and so will OWS.

Long live OWS !

You can't kill a just cause.

_______________________________

"Liberal, Euro-socialistic policies and ideologies are the very things that have the economy in the state it is now"

Really 'cause I must have missed sign up day for my single payer health care, oh yes time to take that six week vacation too. Now I no longer have to pay on these student loans and I get to stay home with my wife and new baby with pay. And I'll tell ya that having this wonderful inexpensive train and bus system means I will no longer need this costly automobile etc., etc., etc.

All this and hows the German economy? Except for the greedy banks...splendid!

Look around folks, wake up!

Oh well at least we have undrinkable water that lights on fire! Great for fourth of July!!!!!!

Fine, put your stupid tents up. The police should confiscate the tents permanently, and then fine your sorry-ass for breaking the law by putting it up.

Most of these OccuTards really do not know what the hell is going on. That was proven in interviews with many of them with the media. They make some valid points on the inequities that are going on, but for the most part they are clueless on economics in general. They want everything given to them.

Now we have this so called Professor Union leader Roberth Reich giving an speech to his new army of students. Unions, socialist and communists , the Democrat grassroots , they are the organizers of the occupy movement.

Capitalism benefits only the corporate & wealthy elite, while it forces the middle class and poor into greater poverty, debt, and bad health. Many thanks to lobbyists, special interest groups, and our Govt. caving into these groups.

mickymac-2942076

This trend exists on both sides of the fence. So quit acting like the typical Republican so full of themselves with manipulating the facts and blaming it on the liberals.

I have been against OWS from the beginning. Not because of the problems they have identified. There are problems, the economy sucks, unemployment is a big problem, we are losing jobs overseas, many politicians and corporate execs are corrupt. We are bogged down in too many international problems. But OWS has no answers and practices a form of racism. They apply the actions of a few towards a group and blame the entire group. There are very good politicians, there are very community minded companies, there are wealthy people who got there with had work and ability.

And many of the problems were caused by the consumer. Everyone thought they deserve a house. And everyone who has a house thought the value was just going up. Everyone wants instant gratification. We have taken on too much debt. And everyone wants more salary, so much that corporate executives, with immense shareholder pressure, sent jobs over seas to cut costs.

Banks are ridiculed for making loans to people who couldn't afford them and are now criticized for not making loans. And nobody talks about the interest rates banks paid for the bail out money. Banks got nothing for free.

I would like to see OWS focus on solutions, not pointing out the obvious problems and pointing the finger. They need to look in the mirror for the perpetrator as well.

@mickymac-2942076

"The irony here is mind boggling.

Liberal, Euro-socialistic policies and idologies are the very things that have the economy in the state it is now, and yet here we have protesters who have supported and fueled such ideals protesting at a place that symbolises everything the Left stands for."

YOU are mind-boggling,Mickey. This avalanche began under Ronnie Raygun 30 years ago and is just now hitting the bottom of the mountain. Where have you been for the last 30 years?

@FtBrgtrnd,

Aren't you the least bit embarrassed in spouting Faux news talking points? Even the Faux shills have become more clever in pushing disinformation.

It's just pathetic, and even traitorous that folks like you continue to state what are basically lies, but what I don't understand is; to what end?

Do you really believe that a system where everything is bought (bribed) and sold to the highest bidder is truly our American way?

You want solutions?, Well they start with discussions-in a Democracy.

Boredwithsame

Please enlighten me, where are the lies in what I said.

You mention something about going to the highest bidder. In business, it works that way. If you run a business, there is a profit incentive in capitalism. Isn't there? I agree there is corruption and bribery in this country. There is much more in other countries. But we certainly have too much.

In countries where there is no profit incentive, like the old USSR, a different system existed. I would comment that anyone who supports that system is a traitor to the country I have risked my life for. And I have risked my life for free speech, just like OWS is exercising. It's their lack of solutions I don't like.

Ok I'll try............

"But OWS has no answers" There have been numerous answers. Reinstate Glass Seagall comes to mind. "and practices a form of racism" Are bankers/Wall St. a race?

"There are very good politicians" Name one that has not been to the trough. "There are very community minded companies", Again name one that didn't profit from their philanthropy. "There are wealthy people who got there with hard work and ability." Name one Banker or Wall St. CEO who succeeded without exploiting their employees or the planet.

Want more?

Wages for working folk have stagnated over the last 30 years, CEO's up around sixfold. Banks made loans to anyone because they made billions in FEES and then packaged the loans, sold them to investors. Kinda like how you played hot potato as a kid. Remember AIG? They got caught holding the potato. And by the way, this is still going on. Banks Paying interest? Sorry thats another red herring. These investment houses that were bailed out with our tax dollars, changed their designation to "Banks" so they could take money from the discount window at nearly 0% and buy treasurys at 3%! Get it yet?

So do you feel comfortable knowing you risked your life for corporate interests? For politicians that are bought and paid for by the 1%? I know I'm not........... Is aiding and abetting the enemy in a time of war not treason? They are being physically attacked while exercising their rights, why aren't you there?

World English Dictionary

traitor (ˈtreɪtə)

— n

a person who is guilty of treason or treachery, in betraying friends, country, a cause or trust, etc

Is working against your country's best interest a solution, or an offence?

If you are a victim of something, anything, you are in.

Pretty much for the same reason the Tea Party claims to represent us. I'm pretty much a moderate and part of the silent majority. Maybe we need to become more vocal somehow. The problem then is how do we separate ourselves from the TP & OWS. Are moderates an endangered species??

By a 66 percent to 31 percent margin, New York voters say that the Occupy Wall Street movement does not represent 99 percent of people, according to a Siena College poll released today. But the poll said that by a 57 percent to 40 percent margin, protesters should be allowed to occupy public parks 24 hours a day.

Voters had a 45 percent to 44 percent favorable view of the movement, today's poll found. That's down from 49 percent to 38 percent last month. They dont represent me

I'm all for the movement especially when I'm constipated .

They don't represent me, either. I guess I am in the silent majority too. I fear there are no moderate voices left and people like us aren't even taken into consideration anymore. All that seems to matter these days are the super rich or the super poor. There are still levels in between! When I say I don't agree with the way these protests are going down, I'm labeled a tea-partier. When I say I think there needs to be better oversight at the banks, or that I don't like Golden Parachutes, I'm labeled a Occupier.

In reality, I'm a declared independent who is fiscally conservative, socially liberal and all for compromise if its going to edge us out of the rut we are in.

I want the get out of my pocket, get out of my bedroom party. Why does this not exist?

Who cares if they don't represent you. If you believe that change ins't needed then you are wrong and living under a rock. Simply no opinion required. The current direction even if your not part of this or a 1% er will ruin life for everyone in the future.

Currently we have a dysfunctional government and a big part of that blame goes to corporations and money entangling in government affairs which should never happen. On the same side you have those very same corporate dbags running for office and getting in with bias towards the very people they must regulate....hmmmmmm.

Anyways even if you do not agree with this and if nothing is done then the disparity will continue to grow and in 5 - 10 years time the whole get a job hippie argument will be a far cry away and you will see horrible things happen in this country. (looks at mexico) that is what happens when a middle class is faded out.

I work hard as many of you do. I work in the IT field for a school system covering 20 schools with 5 of us. We cover large networks. 4000 computers for the city and school side in addition we cover emergency systems as well. I pay my taxes and I have no issues in using some of those taxes to better the life of the not so fortunate which I am one due to my take home being less than a mcdonalds manager. (being underemployed feels as bad as being unemployed, especially when you have a good job) All you babies crying socialism is evil oh my god!! do not understand what kind of problem we find ourselves in. Those same said babies are resting on excuses such as: I am doing okay you should be too argument or just cause you don't care. Jobs will continue to get scarce due to population growth and technological advancement. Unless you want droves homeless people, crime going up and the absolute dumbing down of our country then keep fighting socialistic views because we need to open our eyes to the idea of helping each other, pretty simple and guess what people? Capitalism does not support the idea of helping out people, it's a kill or be killed system which did work but cannot support us now. We need to mix both Capitalism and Socialism with democracy! It doesn't mean all or nothing sheesh. Take some good things and use them! Free health care and school is a joke it's not free it will be paid by and used by TAX PAYERS! Community and state colleges prices drastically reduced for tax payers and so on. What the hell is so bad about that? Don't give me the it doesn't work in other countries because it does and guess what WE CAN DO IT BETTER.

Stop being so selfish, damn.

PH and Randy,

Let's start our own movement. The GOP is a bunch of fascists, the Democrats are lunatic socialists and the OWS movement is rapidly turning communist. The only thing that will fix this country is, as PH states, a movement of fiscally conservative, socially liberal centrists willing to compromise to reestablish the true American Dream - independence, liberty, self-reliance, and self-determination.

PH and Randy,

Let's start our own movement. The GOP is a bunch of fascists, the Democrats are lunatic socialists and the OWS movement is rapidly turning communist. The only thing that will fix this country is, as PH states, a movement of fiscally conservative, socially liberal centrists willing to compromise to reestablish the true American Dream - independence, liberty, self-reliance, and self-determination.

Music to my ears, joemike404! Anyone else on board?

Us moderates are the one's living in the real world, taking care of our families, not expecting strangers to take care of us for life and not trying to force other people to think our way. We just want the same tolerance back from the culture nazis on both sides.

@ rechit -

Who cares if they don't represent you.

Apparently lot's of people care.

I am not part of the Occupy Wall Street protesters, but I can say one thing they have people talking. As far as if they do represent the 99% I do think they do. My question to you would be, if you can say yes to any of these questions then they do represent you. These questions are as follows: Did you disagree with the bailout of the Big Banks? Did you or anyone you know loose their job in the past few years? Did you or anyone you know loose their home recently? Do you feel you have been ripped off by the Credit Card Companys? Do you feel wronged by Big Banks charging you money to get your own money out of the bank by using your debit card? Has your property value gone down or has anyone you know had this happen? Were you opposed to Corporations being considered people, overturning a 125 year old law, so they could contribute to politicians? Does it anger you to know that some huge corporations pay absolutly no taxes yet they get a huge tax refund? Does it anger you to know you are paying for the Public sectors pensions and wages and they can constantly bargain for higher wages without your say even though through your tax dollars you pay for this? This list could go on and on. But if you have to agree with any of these questions then yes, you are part of the 99%.

The problem with being a Silent Majority is that no one hears you or knows your grievance.

If you don't understand the OWS movement, maybe you should try talking to someone who is connected to it from a messaging standpoint. And I don't mean the hanger's on, malcontents or volumes of opportunity seekers who have used the movement as a feeding ground upon which to prey. OWS is an umbrella organization that represents that segment of today's American society that has moved from the Silent Majority to become an organized faction that demands to be heard. Just because people have yet to hear a platform or message does not mean that the OWS protest is illegitimate. There are in fact many problems, most of them articulated daily on blogs like this, which fall beneath the banner of OWS. For example:

• Taxpayer bailouts of Investment Banks, and other financial institutions.
• Foreclosures and the lack of commitment by the financial institutions who made the loans to assist in solving the problem.
• Tightening of credit standards to the point that small businesses can no longer secure Lines of Credit, which were essential in their ability to do business (purchase inventories, capital expenditures, etc.)
• Outsourcing of manufacturing jobs.
• Widening income inequality.
• "Corporations are People" or better known as the Citizens United ruling.
• Corporate lobbying and their writing of legislation.

I don't see how anyone that is not a part of the Corporate/Political/Financial management structure would not consider themselves aligned with the spirit of OWS? Who else out there is speaking up for that portion of America that is affected?

There may be a Silent Majority in America but in order to effect change that majority needs to break it's silence and let their dissatisfaction be known publicly.

There is, after all, something to be said for the "Squeaking wheel getting the grease". Look at what the Tea Party evolved to, not that I agree with their message, methods, or especially their results. But they were dissatisfied and did something about it. So should the so called "SILENT MAJORITY", IMHO.

Here we go again. Exactly as I said. Just because I do not agree with everything the OWS says, it does not mean I do not understand what they are saying. I can read. But, the OWS movement can air their grievances all day every day and its not going to change anything until they put together a list of solutions and start to mine candidates dedicated to implementing them. Make your plan, then work your plan and then see if people follow your plan - that is the American way.

And just because I don't agree with the OWS movement, that does not mean I am a 1%. The Occupiers do not represent me, or most people I know, and none of us are 1%-ers. Even if I answer yes to a lot of the questions above, the Occupiers still don't represent me. Sharing the same aggravation on certain issues does not mean we share the same philosophy. That all or nothing mentality is an extremist perspective and that is exactly what is ruining this country (on both sides of the coin!).

To mickymack 2942076:

Banks are not supporting new businesses unless they are members of the wealthy or corporate elite supposedly for reliability and stability. How quickly they do forget who sponsored the Wall Street corruption and Recession. It takes two parties along with the elite to promote this trend.

Are you of the mind that Egyptians were better off under the rule of an oppressive regime?

What are they under now?

Sarah1976: Do you not know that the military now runs Egypt and that they have threatened violence rather than allow a free election. All under the guise that the situation is to fragile to allow the people to make decisions. Of course the first act of the new Egyptian regime was to allow Iranian warships to use the Suez Canal, you know the Iranians, that now have nuclear weapons. Don't be a moroon and believe that simply because you use the word "people" (mostly college students and homeless) it leads to good things. The "people" wanted the Shah of Iran out of power and look what they got. Grow up!

Actually, it's deliberate political misinformation that the Egyptian protesters were comprised of mostly college students and homeless people. Professors, politicians, employed workers, unemployed workers, homeless people, and people with homes were all together in the protests.

Always take everything the media tells you with a grain of salt, Dexter. I don't know why you felt the need to call me a "moroon" and tell me to "grow up," but I don't think I'm the one whose views need a little maturing.

It was the people (and I mean all kinds of people) who wanted change in Egypt.

But the military made it happen.

Now the military doesn't want to give up what its got.

The people asked for change...and got screwed. Sounds familiar doesn't it? Not pointing any fingers here...Jusy sayin'

Asking for change isn't good enough. If you don't make it happen yourself, who ever does so on your behalf may not change things the way you would like. :)

These people love America and they ARE working to improve this country. They are not 'creepy' and neither are their ideals. Wanna see creepy? Go take a look at Ann Coulter.

Yeah...HE creeps me out too!!!

So your vision of America is the correct one and because theirs does not match yours they are creepy people. Not really what America is supposed to be like.

I work, have worked for 20 years. Every year the raises and appreciation get less and less. My pay doesnt even keep up with COL now. Social Security is being demolished by the GOP, so I dont have that to look forward to like many generations before me. Unless I'm socking away half of my earnings, I'll never be able to retire. I can't save enough to keep up with owning a house, so I rent. Pretty soon, may have to house elderly parents. Where's the American dream in this? I work, save, invest, and it's not paying off. All the movement asks for is that Big Corporations stop socking away their many billions in profits for executives, and give back to the economy in jobs and compensation that fair for the work put in daily.

The Government does not listen to "Peaceful" Demonstrators. The plain fact is that when people get angry and Riot the government starts to listen. It's a proven fact all over the world. It's like a dangerous street corner without a Stop sign,they know it's a dangerous corner but as long as there are no accident's the authorities ignore it. But when accidents start to happen at that corner then and only then do they listen to the people.

Cygnus, and how exactly is the GOP demolishing SS. In case you missed it SS has been going bankrupt for a while now something has to be done or you're right you won't have it to fall back on.

Yep, just another LIE about the GOP "trying to demolish SS". They are trying to REFORM it so that it will actually be solvent and will stay around for future generations instead of crippling us.

GOP reform of SS is removing it entirely and putting it upon the individual to invest it wisely, which we know 99% of Americans won't do, and will end up without a sent when they need to retire.

Um.....you really have no idea what you're talking about. Keep up the spin though!

@ WieserJG:

So you are telling us that the Paul Ryan plan does not ultimately privatize Social Security? So you're saying that the idea of giving people who are currently 55 or older an "Assistance Payment" that does not keep up with the rate of inflation, nor does it cover the basic costs is not the equivalent of dismantling Social Security? So you're telling us that instead of raising the current $107,000 cap, beyond which nothing is collected for Social Security, by 10-20% and means testing benefits we couldn't keep Social Security like it is for another 75 or so years?

If you truly believe that the only solution to our Social Security problem is to dismantle the program and tell individuals that they should "invest in their own retirement plan using Market Driven entities" then I am sorry but you are just following the GOP's plan for giving Wall Street more money to play with.

Lastly, find yourself someone who was 62 years old in 2008, had money put away in an IRA or 401K, and was planning to retire at 65. Ask them what they think about how the MARKET took care of their retirement plan. Somehow I don't think they will give you a favorable response.

It's interesting to see so many people who have such a solid facade, the horrors of this Depression haven't penetrated. Apparently, their family, friends and neighbors haven't been affected either? That doesn't seem possible. Therefore, we have to see their posts for what they are. Their is a segment that still blame their family, friends and neighbors for this situation. They do not go outside of MSM for news. They are not informed regarding the Derivatives bubble, fostered between Financial Banks and Wall Street, that brought about this Depression. They are not informed about the 4-6 Trillion spent on wars since the invasion of Iraq. They are not informed regarding the pillage and plunder of Iraq, 600,000+ Iraqi civilians dead and the CIA running a global war with a 90% civilian casualty rate. They are not informed about the thinly disguised fantical evangilists who perpetuate hate, in the name of god, called Citizens United. Purchased the Supreme Court 'Of the People and by the People' who ruled in their favor so that 'corporations now have the rights of Individuals' and their PAC donations can remain anonymous for expedited purchasing for your politicians. They are completely unaware that the Supreme Court's election of the President in 2000 was in violation of our Constitutional Rights and from that day forward, became the Supreme Court 'Of the Corporations and by the Corporations.' They are not unaware of the formation of 'ALEC' by Shrub, Sr. during the Reagan years and the perpetuation of corporations and their paid politicians to 'write and pass' the law of the land. The Jews didn't belive Hitler could do what he did. Finally Cygnus_X-1, SS has been gutted by Congress and you have not business blaming the 99%. The BULK of those funds have been used to fund the WORLD BANK, among other stupid investments. Your tax paying, SS paying neighbor isn't to blame for that any more then you are. If, indeed Congress had NOT pilfered SS to fund that and every refuge from their CIA wars, had let my invested dollars accumulate, I would have PLENTY to retire on with SS alone. Wouldn't even need Medicare. Congress can't do math, they needed to inform me that I was paying for myself, 5 refugee's, 10 'anchor babies,' and would need also need to contribute enough so I could retire at 50 due to NAFTA. If I'd known all of that, then maybe I'd have been informed enough and your 'blanket statement' wouldn't be made in ignorance. SHOW ME THE MONEY! IF NOT, THEN SHOW ME THE AUDIT TRAIL! Congress is not willing to provide either and their odds of being a millionaire have increased by 50% (2 to 1) in the last 20 years. Privitization of SS, Medicare or any other 'Social Service' is an invitation to steal from the middle class, yet again. Support OWS, just because you are in insurance doesn't mean you'll be out of a job if we don't privatize.

Sayitaintso: Let me know how well social security has done. Compare the gains on SS (newsflash: THERE ISN'T ANY) to the average market gains. Most people who talk about reform are in favor of giving you a CHOICE to invest or not. Me: I'm in favor of compound interest and having my money appreciate instead of staying stagnant.

American, you weren't meant to retire on SS alone so cut the crap. No one party gutted SS. You seem a bit paranoid about the CIA maybe they're running the banks.

American-American, I like your use of the word "Depression". We could very easily be in the same boat as the Great Depression if it wasnt for the social safety nets still in place from the New Deal, that prevents poor and down on their luck from having to stand in soup lines and live in Hoovervilles. On paper, this "recession" was every bit as bad as the Great Depression. More failed banks, greater total numbers out of work, giant drop-offs in spending and GDP. Seems the right only want to remove the few remaining safety nets, and see that all over again. They don't care, as long as it's not them and someone else. Just don't take any of their money to help feed and house someone else in dire need.

I have to agree with you there. Obeying safety rules, like not overloading the overhang, makes very good sense. We do not need warriors with self inflicted injuries.

That's exactly what I was thinking 51. It's fortunate that the structural engineer over-designed those overhangs.

Buff, who can afford to go to Berkley, oh yeah the wealthy.

I wonder who's going to get sued when they collapse? HINT: Not the idiot people up there.

Warriors? If it comes to civil disobedience/unrest/war, I only pray that your "warriors" are as highly-trained & whip-smart as these protesters are...I certainly don't advocate violence, but it seems that many Occupy posters are starting to think that way. If it comes to that, it will be a very short "Civil War", and will be used by those in power in BOTH parties to complete their stranglehold on ALL of us. To paraphrase an earlier post, a civil war really will be purses against guns...I really believe that as things get worse, the protesters will start demanding firearms to protect themselves, as well as lessons on how to use them, and how to not really "hurt" anyone they point them at (except themselves)...if you advocate violence, you're going to get violence, so yes, be careful for what you wish for.

Ok I agree that they should not be sitting on that platform as it looks unsafe. HOWEVER there is NO REASON for you to call these people idiots and claim that they will all blame someone other than themselves, if something even happens. Your negative comment really adds no value to what this article is about and instead you find a way to shed light on these protests in a negative way. There is so much hate and negative energy in Americans these days and if it continues, things will just continue to worsen.

yea they are not idiots...like you said they will get hurt and sue, they will get a free lawyer and the school will settle out of court...Great payday and they can still sit on their a$$

I'm with Wow and Medic. They are being idiots for being where they do not belong on a structure that was not meant to support them. It's a given that should it collapse, every injured person will be visited by a lawyer chomping at the bit to file a suit on their behalf. It's a given that at least some of them will take up the offer. It's not even really a guess. Given the number of people I can see in the picture, it's almost a statistical certainty.

I'm sorry, but what the hell are you talking about? Who is 'she'?

Tim , how do you know she's an American?

who is "she" the unborn?

She knows who she is

I support the protester's arguments (or most of them at least)

I think the protest is misdirected...turning college campuses and city parks/squares/business areas into mayhem isn't going to incur the change they seek.

Moreover, their message is very misunderstood by mainstream America because they are very unorganized and all they can do is spout the 1 vs 99% rubbish.

OWS - Go home, take a shower, get organized, boil it down into 3 or 4 simple sentences so the dummies in Washington can understand it, and take the protest to the National Mall...right outside the windows of the disfunctional dopes who can't seem to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Stop making a mess out of the public places...it will only piss off people who will potentially support you.

I agree with you Oilman. They need some direction and leadership. While I support their right to assemble and protest their voice is inconsistent at best. Different groups from different parts of the country are protesting with no unified message.

Take the message to your own state governments and to the National Level. Make a stand and stick to it. Never mind foolishness like forgiving Student loans. Stick to reality.

While I don't support much of what I hear of their views, I do believe we need change. We need to have a referendum question on next years election. TERM LIMITS for all National posts. Get rid of the Professional Politician and their perks. 2 terms MAX, for Senate & Congress. 8yrs max for Supreme court appointees. Any Laws or rulings they put in affect for the rest of us affects THEM as well. Wage increases to be based on the percentage they give to SS recipients.

Gary what makes you think people who support these protesters dont have jobs? I support the protests have a college degree in Finance and am making a solid living for myself directly out of college. I am certainly not sucking of the gov unless of course you are offended by state colleges. Than again I wouldn't be surprised if you were

It's sad that there are several generations that don't understand the 60's protests, or havent bothered to learn the history. These protests arent about asking for any specific benefits...they're a shout out that Americans will be heard, no matter their stance, and government and police can't hold them down. It's worse nowadays because government is controlled by commercial interests, so it's Big Business who can say how and when you can "protest", as long as the message isnt against them.

I am personally hoping that the movements congeal in Washington at the Mall, like the 60's, and yells even louder for the world to see.

However, I can't stress enough that people need to vote with their feet and not their mouths. Protesting and screaming all day will not get a politician removed from office. An overwhelming amount of votes will. So, line the US Congress with democrats, and we'll finally see the financial reform and Wall St. reform that Obama promised and was trying to get before the GOP took over the House.

Cygnus, the majority of Wall Street donations went to the Democratic party wake up tool.

To Cygnus_X-1 and the rest of the Sheep: The US Congress was run by democrats from the Bush presidency through the last election and what financial reform did you get. God are you all so stupid you can't see that Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton, all of the other Democrats, this silly pathetic uniformed mob calls heroes, also voted for the very bills that sent us into this financial mess. The voting record is there for all of you to see but your either too damn lazy to look at it or to stupid to believe it when you see it. The speaker Reich is knee deep in millions from his role in the mortgage collapse. Yet there you are drooling over his words like he's one of you. The republicans have only controlled the congress for the last year. Its not a democrat/republican thing the whole government is eat up with greed. Until you open your eyes and stop being sheep you are just spouting BS from a position of extreme ignorance.

Then why didn't Obama do it when he had no opposition for the first two years of his presidency? If his jobs bill was soooooo important, why didn't he pass it years ago? Because this is all just a political stunt.

So WeiserJG, guess you slept through the HISTORIC amount of clotures and filibuster that were used during President Obama's first two years, right?

Why is it that the Obama opposition always feels it necessary to REWRITE HISTORY in order to make a point? If you can't make your point using FACTS NOT IN DISPUTE, then logic should tell you that your point has no relevance.

Oh, I forgot that logic is the second casualty in any ideological talking point. The truth is always the first casualty.

Um...........he had a FILIBUSTER PROOF SUPERMAJORITY in the Senate! And you say that I am trying to rewrite history????????

FYI: this is from NPR, not Fox (like I know you guys like to throw out as much as you can): www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122799603

Sayitaintso, how did Obama pass healthcare bill if not for the super majority

Class warfare goes back decades before obama. Its why the rich separated themselves from the other classes and no longer feel any illusion of solidarity anymore. When you run around ranting about "eat the rich", the rich run for the gated communities.

America was born through revolution, she was born because people did not want to live by the old rules..that is the American spirit. The American people once again see that the way things have been handled by the few, the power that has been gathered by the few, is destroying the future for the many. Once again we must correct the way the country is going and do our part to keep this country a home of equality and freedom. The very spirit of America demands the people rise up when we are threatened and the threat to our way of life is huge and internal. All patriots must face the issues and chose a course, it's the American way.

what the hell are you protesting

Nothing - but then, I didn't post insults about people I have never met on a web page then complain about ideals I am not prepared to spend actual effort supporting.

Corporate and Wall Street GREED you PUTZ!!!

Right wing idiots don't know what they are supporting or not supporting. Then again, their 2012 lineup speaks volumes. This is not a democrat or republican movement. Think for yourselves for once and just may be you'll see objectivity. Quit wasting the our time with your diatribes.

Money Has been privatized by stealth

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29728.htm#.TsNByLXb_co.facebook

Not much point protesting if you dont have a workable solution. Communism (or even communalism) has already failed.

Exactly what is it you want? If you were running a business what would be your goal? Whose responsibility is it to support your family?

Jones, that sounds very familiar. I think I heard something similar during the Vietnam War protests in the 60's. And I suspect that many of those protesters went on to become hard-working citizens, living the American dream. It is very easy to compartmentalize those we don't agree with. It is also easy to fear those we don't understand.

Wall Street got its way, and now cities like Detroit and Flint are filthy, drug and crime-infested encampments. They are the example of what this nation will look like if the 1% gets its way.

Um, haven't Detroit and Flint been that way for a while? I remember the exodus of people to the Texas oil fields when Reagan was in and the auto industry had to fend for them selves. I remember it being too dangerous to walk downtown in either of those cities, or trying to find a police officer as a lost teen driver coming over the bridge from Windsor... and there wasn't one to be found. Now maybe if you could point a finger at the unions just a little? I find it very interesting that part of the auto bailout required my dad to lose his medical pension. The union negotiated that for him during his 30+ years of working at the same company, he got lower pay, but the promise of that pension. So Obama and Congress force the companies to do 'something.' So now my dad doesn't have his medical pension, but is on Medicare. We have so much more that is messed up than just Wall Street.

Sarah, I wish I could vote you up repeatedly. Detroit is a prime example of the right wing future, as is the tiny towns of Raymond and South Bend WA. places that used to thrive and live and are now dead and hopeless.

Detroit and Flint have been like that for a LONG time

So in this fantasy where Wall Street killed Detroit, what year would you say that happened? Because I was in Detroit in 1979 and it still stands out in my memory as the scariest, most depressed, most downtrodden city I have ever visited.

But it's so easy to blame all of our problems on Wall Street Mayor! I stubbed my toe the other day. Damn you Wall Street! ;)

Wait till Obama spends us into oblivion then see what your cities will look like. 15 trillion and climbing don't worry be happy crank up another printing press.

Sarah, I wish I could vote you up repeatedly. Detroit is a prime example of the right wing future, as is the tiny towns of Raymond and South Bend WA. places that used to thrive and live and are now dead and hopeless.

Are you serious? You're going to blame the right wing for Detroit being a festering dump? You're a true tool. The right wing didn't have a damned thing to do with Detroit's problems. In fact, what you're stating is completely opposite of the truth. Detroit is a democratic run city and has been that way for a long time. You can thank the residents of Detroit for it remaining that way by continuing to lean left.

I'm also going to point out, that Detroit's working base is unionized, which is a democratic institution in itself. And also, those small towns you're discussing are also in union territory, which is *gasp* DEMOCRATIC !!

So I ask, do you have any clue what you're talking about? Or are you just attempting to agree with another individual that hasn't a clue so they don't feel like everyone is picking on them?

And Seattle and Portland Ore and many other cities across the nation, not to mention the smaller groups in tiny towns everywhere. Don't squeeze your eyes too tightly shut..you won't see the bus before it rolls over you, best get on board or get out of the way.

croney, that's funny these clowns can't even get out of their own way.

it doesnt matter if they figure out a message. Just look at the comments on the vine. People see filthy scum crapping in the alleys and will never even listen for a message-- even if they had one. OWS lost when first pictures were shown.

Mike, modern day minute men are you kidding. Legalize pot and half of them would go home

Fatherwolf-3108541 The hypocrisy is deafening as witnessed by some of the blogs that put down the occupy Berkeley effort. Believe me, as soon as these so-called conservatives and tea party ilk lose their job, lose their power, and have their families threatened with homelessness, they will be at the front of the line for their so-called liberal entitlements.

Actually you're wrong, if they lose their jobs, they will do what folks usually do, go out and get another one.

Actually you're wrong, if they lose their jobs, they will do what folks usually do, go out and get another one.

Unless of course the job got shipped of to India or China. Then they would not be 10% anymore and would be called "lazy". Problem solved either way....

My wife was unemployed this year for a week; literally for a week. I do not argue outsourcing is disgusting. Clinton literally "sold" the steel foundries in Pittsburgh to China. And Obama's "JOB CZAR" is the CEO of GE (which payed ZERO taxes in the US last year) and GE closed a plant in Wisc. and shipped those jobs to China as well. Pelosi made over $100,000 in TWO days on an IPO with Visa.

Makes your head spin

BUT SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM IS NOT THE ANSWER!!!!!!

Retraining is the answer. Humans are super successful as a species cuz we're super adaptable. The 3rd world jobs have gone to the 3rd world. If you want a 1st world job, retrain for 1st world skills. The stupidest thing I've ever seen is not requiring retraining for people on unemployment for, say; over 6 months. Adapt, overcome, prosper. Repeat as needed. We're a country of 2nd chances. Take one.

There are 47 kids visible in that picture alone on the right roof top. Probably 3 times that amount in the back and in the middle.

147 kids @ 150 lbs each = 21,150 lbs on that roof!! The average car is 4,000 lbs. That's like stacking 5 cars on top of each other and putting them on the roof. Get those kids off there!!

No no, put MORE kids on the roof.

300m,

I'll bet you call yourself a proud American and spout about 'freedoms' yet consider these kids to be lower than dirt. Your commment means that you wish for them to be injured or killed.

How long must we endure the stupidity of talking point sheeple before they finally see the reality of their loyalty to the party of harm and it's hypocrisy???

Fox Lies.

Ahhhhh yes! Gotta insert Fox into it somehow, no matter how little it has to do with any conversation. Gotta love liberals.............sigh

And you just had to stick up for them, no matter how little THAT has to do with the conversation. Your teatard roots are showing.

Abigail, how imaginative of you teatards. Teach your children well no wonder this country is the way it is.

Teatards? LOL! Gotta love the "tolerant left"!

WeiserJG,

Since you noticed, you are correct.

Unless I forget or get sidetracked...every one of my posts from now until something changes will end with FOX LIES. I INVITE ALL PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT FOX LIES TO DO THE SAME THING.

If you see a security camera trained on you .....smile and say FOX LIES!!!!!

When the cameras come out for the holidays smile and say FOX LIES!!!!!

If you call into a talk show, end your call with FOX LIES!!!

Hell, end all your phone calls with FOX LIES!!!

Your thoughts,Weiser, and all the other sheeples thoughts are inserted into every post and every subject by fox. It, therefore, has a whole lot to do with every subject. It has a whole lot to do with the dimented thinking of all sheeple.

Have a nice evening,

Fox Lies.