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Max Whittaker / Reuters
Madeleine Perry, left, and her mother Karen Reuter comfort each other as they look over the remains of Karen's mother's burned home in Reno, Nev., Nov. 19. Nevada's governor declared a state of emergency on Friday over a wildfire raging at the edge of a hilly Reno suburb that has damaged 32 structures, forced nearly 10,000 people from their homes, burned 2,000 acres and was blamed for an elderly man's death.
According to msnbc.com staff and news service reports:
The wind grounded firefighting helicopters and made it difficult for firefighters to approach Caughlin Ranch, the affluent subdivision bordering pine-forested hills where the fire likely began after 12:30 a.m. It also helped the fire spread from 400 acres to more than 3 square miles.
The gusts were comparable to the Santa Ana winds that often aggravate and spread wildfires in the hills surrounding Los Angeles, officials said.
"The wind is horrific," said Reno spokeswoman Michele Anderson. "We just watched a semi nearly blow over on the freeway."
Read the full story here.
Max Whittaker / Reuters
Joelle Greene is overcome with emotion as she views the remains of her burned home in Reno, Nev., Nov. 19.
Max Whittaker / Reuters
Joanna Irwin, left, and Tim Galvin comfort each other as they look over the remains of their burned home in Reno, Nev., Nov. 19.
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The photo depicts a mother and daughter embracing and balanced atop a high wall, atop a narrow cinder block? Are these images two photos superimposed? Is this an honest news photo?
Seriously? Do you have issues or something? Geez...
Conspiracy theorist..........we never landed on the moon either....right?
Kind of does look super imposed. Who knows anymore.
Oh, good, at least two people give the foil-hat guy a thumbs up. So what, exactly, would be the point of doctoring this photo? Can you give me something to work with here, or are you people just so whacked you see little green men hiding in every closet?
left wing nut job-lol.
Seriously, these people just lost everything from a freak accident just before the holidays, its terrible.
Heartfelt sorrow for the people of Reno whose lives have been directly and indirectly turned upside down by this fire. There is never a good time for something like this and the fact the fire occurred just before the Thanksgiving holiday only adds to the sense of loss. Prayers for all.
Huh, someone points out a photo saying it looks super imposed, another person agrees that it looks super imposed, you people spew all kinds of hate and we're the nut jobs?!!!
Yes, you are the nut jobs - I just use it as a moniker, but you folks actually live up to the billing. I ask again, what would be the point of doctoring the photos? Would it make somebody more money? Would it magically bring the houses and their contents back? Would it create world peace? C'mon, let's hear it - WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT???
Good grief.
Left Wing Nut Job - With all the fake photos and videos, who knows. Why would they? Heightened drama creating a more desirable photo for sale? I just agreed that it does look super imposed and I quote -
wtf are you saying...these people lost everything and you are making accusations of fake photos...what would be the reason for this????? they are probably on top of the wall to survey the damage without having to walk through rubble that still may be hot and smoldering...the wall they are on connects to another wall, that seems to be level with the ground...so the "how" part to your comment is answered...as for the "why" like why would they be up there...they lost everything...wtf, they lost everything and you are wondering how and why they are on the wall to examine the damage...I am actually baffled as to why you would make this comment...
If this was your house, where would you be standing? Maybe on the deck that is shown...the same deck that could collapse from being damaged...or maybe you would climb in a tree...oh that's right, there are no trees after the fire...maybe one should be riding piggy back on the other's shoulders...and then they could trade places so each one gets a fair chance to look...
BTW, it wasn't their house as you raved about in your comment !! "these people lost everything"
You were wrong, technically !! READ the picture caption !
Gee, I guess you are technically correct, as it is "only" the mother's house. Then again, maybe YOU need to learn to read.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people troll these boards looking to attack others when tragedy occurs. Don't you have some puppies to go kick?
Your name says it all !!
Hey, good retort! You must be proud!
Please don't tell that idiot to kick puppies, he just might. If you are worried, John Harrigan, that maybe this didn't really happen let me assure you it did. I live in Reno, 2-4 miles from the fire. I was up @ 1am letting the dog out. You could smell it that early. I saw the flames on the ridge. Sirens were going off all day. The smoke was thick. You could smell it all over the Truckee Meadows. Don't you need to go pick lint off a sweater or something? My heart goes out to all the people that have lost their home, especially @ this time of year. Hey, left wing nut job, I'm with you.
You may have a point. Notice that the blocks behind their feet (close to main structure fire) are whiter, not soot covered & grayer as the other blocks are. Also, don't see how they got to where they're standing. Tip of right white shoe is missing. Looks like it would have been very dangerous getting to where they are. Posed shot or photo-shopped ?
...and the tip of your foil hat appears to be at a peculiar angle. Maybe you are photoshopped...?
My tip of foil hat is set at an obtuse angle, tyvm. How is yours set ?
The angle of your hat isn't the only thing that is obtuse...oh, and try some grammar on occasion.
Talking with you is more fun than baiting a redneck with a Bud and a SlimJim, oh wait....
You know how to leave a idiot in suspense..................
This has been a bad year for Reno.
The stupidity of some people who post on here never ceases to amaze me.
Agree with you. What a waste of space in the gene pool!
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Real photos? Yes and look at the damage! Terrible, and what a loss. I certainly hope they get the insurance companies to pay--I also hope news follows events--I would like to see what excuses ins cos use to reneg on paying.
Impeech obama
Yes, because Obama personally lit those fires he should most assuredly be "impeeched". Wow.
What did Obama have to do with it ? LWNJ, why bring up political BS ?
Having problems with reading comprehension, junior? Try actually looking at the post I was responding to.
the best comfort of peace to have in situations like this, get on your knees, and PRAY out to God. (1. Admit your a sinner, You fall short of his glory. (2. Put your trust in Jesus Christ (3. Believe in your heart that God raised Him (Jesus) from the dead the 3rd day, and confess with your mouth, the Lord Jesus is the Lord, and thou shalt be saved. I am sorry if I offend some atheists, but guess what? It is called "Freedom of Speech, as well as Freedom of Religion" I was an atheist back in the day, but why forget who created you, when clearly, It was God, Because He knew us before we was formed in our mother's womb. If you disagree, I suggest you to read the Bible, if you refuse that, then I am going to pray for you!! God Bless!!
Hoy cow! Tragedy strikes and all the nut wads come crawling out of the woodwork!
I feel sorry for you Fritz. Your living in your own hell.
Hey Fritz.....I thought all you Lemmings jumped off the cliff....
Read the bible. Read the bible! Fritz you are just another bible thumper that has not read the bible and/or done nothing to reasearch the so called "Holy Book!" Reading this book does not accomplish anything except proving that you have the patience to plow through all the begattings. God loves killing...
I am Christian, and I find both sides of this argument a bit short-sighted. In the first place, Jeremy, coming to God is a great thing, but something that needs traditional guidance from people with wisdom, or else people could form misunderstandings that take them further away from the truth. Many detractors have used Biblical quotes. If you are posting to try to give comfort, then use those quotes, and listen yourself too.
In the second place everybody else, as a progressive Democrat, I feel like we are all living in our own hell, made of nut-jobs falsely claiming to be religious that want to cut more money from the poor instead of helping them. And people won't listen if you bash religion. Religion itself that says to help the poor; those who have hijacked religion are now saying to hell with everybody else.
History of Christian thought in a "nut" shell on this: 1. a sect which was dualist (good vs evil) influenced some people. 2. Augustine of Hippo invented an idea that God created both good and evil (not reading Plato or anybody else), and that influenced 3. Calvin, who said that the rich were an example of God loving people who were good, so that 4. those "reformers" that never had understood a real Christian tradition inherited this very twisted concept, and therefore will not follow the actual teachings of Jesus, who said 5. HELP THE POOR. You can see why I get mad at those people; they defame my God while pretending to worship. There were a lot of arguments in Christian history against selfishness; every city or region that was selfish lost.
wow. such hostility towards people talking about God and the Bible. I am curious to know what transpired in your life that put so much hate in your heart.
MSNBC may have screwed up this & other stuff also. If you click on the link to "Read the full story here."
You'll see this link:
PhotoBlog: Residents return home to view fire damage
Nothing to do with Reno story, instead takes you to PhotoBlog of Firefighters in Mrytle Beach training !!!
Well, good for you! You managed to find a coding error! You get a gold star!
At least only MSNBC makes these mistakes with links - think how awful it would be if any other sites ever made any errors...
Two stars and I am sorry for all the people who lost their homes. Truce ?
Next the victims get to deal with the pain the insurance companies will bring.
it will be the insurance companies that these 1%ers endorse and defend. my karma just ran over their dogma.
Please keep your negative comments, or any political comments, to yourselves. It's been a tough year for our beautiful little city, and we could use your prayers and positive thoughts (emphasis on positive). If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
Beautiful city? What Reno are you talking about? I am positive that Reno is a sh!thole and I pray you don't think it is really as beautiful as you portray.. It isn't..
You can both suck my balls. Reno-Tahoe is the shiite! Sure, the downtown casinos are a bit seedy, to say the least, but people who live here don't really go down there. The real draw of Reno is the amazing outdoors in every direction. Snowboarding/skiing? Check. Hiking/backpacking? Check. Swimming/boating? Check. Off-roading? Check. Hunting/fishing? Check. Should I go on?? There's a reason that 90% of the people that live here are transplants from elsewhere. And I can guarantee it's about 100 times better here than Alabama, or where ever you're from.
Oh, goody - more trolls.
"Let's see, are there any stories I can find that involve tragedy on this site? Gee, I sure hope so, that way I can go post really insightful things that are intended to do nothing more than rub salt in wounds. That will be fun, as I really can't think of anything constructive to do!"
Hey, I've got an idea - if you see a link that involves something bad happening to something or somebody that you aren't enamored of, just read it and gloat to yourself, OK? Don't bother with your "witty" repartee...it does nothing other than make you look like a jerk.
I am sorry for your losses. I hope that both the people and also the forests and wildlife recover soon.
I've lived in Northern Nevada for more than half my life, and while some parts of it do indeed suck, the fact still remains that this community can pull together and help each other out in times of need. Say what you want about Reno, those of us who live here know it's not just about the area but about those who live around us. I'll take the questionable city filled with people who give a crap over a city that looks good but is filled with self centered a-holes any day of the week.
Hey, "Best" Destiny...I'll bet there's at least ONE good thing about Reno...that you don't reside there. Take your sanctimonious crap elsewhere. By the way..."everyone" does not consist of two people.
Power lines arcing? More like some home owner who was underwater and couldn't just burn down their own home without it looking suspicious...
The bank should give them all pennies on the dollar for their new home replacement... If anyone doesn't think this was done on purpose they need to think again..
Seeing how the fire started on the side of a mountain where there are no homes, your comment isn't worth the bits it was typed with.
ryan-2622538, I have to agree with you. Too sad that some people just carry a vacuum between the ears!
The Nevada Inbreds at least stick together....
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BS Detector 101 got schooled by leftwing nut job. This story is sad but I can stop laughing at the arguement.
No doubt these people that lost their homes were sinners! God has spoken....
"God" did this? That's a shame.
LenM, you obviously have issues and should not post non-sense like this.
Its OBVIOUS that the "mother/daughter" pic is "shopped". Hello?
This is very sad for us in Nevada.
Jesus H. Christ on a stick. Can't even post a simple story about a wildfire without nut jobs and Obama haters coming out of the woodwork and trying to make it about them and their particular delusional fascination.
My prayers and thoughts go out to the families effected by this tragedy.
Way I read it, the two people are the daughter and granddaughter of the owner. So whatever they feel, it`s legit. My mom`s house got heavily damaged by an arson fire, she got out, they caught the head-case, and the insurance more or less cleaned up the mess. But I know what I felt when I saw what was left of the place.
Wow... you people? Relax, settle down, get a grip... and be kind to one another.
My comment was motivated by this thought: What a horrible tragedy of personal loss in Reno!!!
So why on earth would this sad event need to be enhanced or dramatized by a photo that seems so obviously faked?!? I have been in and around the professional photo community for many years. And YES, professional photographers are NOT always honest. And this seems to be a case of just that!
It seemed sad to me that a reputable news agency I trust, MSNBC.COM, would make this a lead photo without a second thought?
At first sight, this photo catches the eye and heart with dramatic impact... however... how did these two get into this position, and how would they get out? Fire Marshals would have never let them into a still smoldering landscape etc, etc.
The two stand in a profoundly precarious perch. There appears no way into that position and no way out.
My sentiment was, how incredibly sad that a tragedy such as this, would inspire or need a photo that looks to be dishonestly contrived?! If the photo is authentic, the photographer merits a major prize, and I would be the first with congratulations.
My heart goes out to these people, their loss and their suffering... which is why I was taken aback at a picture that seemed to lack honest photographic depiction. For me, it added to the overall sadness and injustice of the event.
Why don't you ask the guy himself: Max Whittaker. I'm sure he will be interested to hear from you regarding your thoughts about him committing fraud. I'm sure he will be delighted to take your expertise into consideration as he ponders your arguments...please, let us know what his response is.
No wonder America might go down the toilet with knumbskulls making stupid comments...some of us already donated.. so why not help out, rather than whine, complain, or point out the incidental.
Now we know how Obama got in !! :>) So, please, help out, pray for these unfortunate folks, and hope they can help one another like all Aericans should...
I hope that all concerned figure out a way to get past this...while there is no good time for this, this time of year makes it particularly brutal.
Left Wing,
You wrote: "I hope that all concerned figure out a way to get past this...while there is no good time for this, this time of year makes it particularly brutal."
These good words of yours are really the only words that should have been said here, the only words that could have been helpful to the victims... if they have read any of these comments?
I was wrong to have written what I did. It was not the right time or place to make the comment I made. It was of no help to the victims to question the photo. I regret doing it, and was not thinking well.
My heart goes out to them, and I hope they can find better fortune as the holiday season approaches.
However, Left Wing, you are wrong to insult people with attack and hate far beyond the issue. It's wrong... here or anywhere else. It does not make your point and brings senseless harm.
The most appropriate comment in this thread is yours: "I hope that all concerned figure out a way to get past this... while there is no good time for this, this time of year makes it particularly brutal."
This humane comment made your point so well.
I share these sentiments of good will toward the Reno victims.
Best wishes to those who have lost their homes in Reno; may you have a better holiday season.
I talked with the photographer Max Whittaker; he showed me other photos he took at this site and explained the topology. The stunning photo of the mother and daughter is very real. They were, in fact, standing on the retaining wall. I was wrong in fact, and insensitive to have made a rash and questioning post to such a tragic event. Max is a renowned and established photo journalist with some incredible pictures that can be seen at his site: MaxWhittaker (dot) com. I recommend a look!
thats all fake. what they dont tell you is that 150 New world order army soldiers were there to. i bet those poeple dident even get to go back home. 10,000 where sent to the new fema consertration camps, where they will be killed. thats how there going to kill every one. this is all your warning. all the sudden somthing wierd will happen out of the blue. New wolrd order will come. then you die. that is what they are doing all over the US the media is just covering it up becuase a group of just a few people own 99% of the media. you only know what you are told