The only similarity between Mandela, King and the protesters is physiological. Successful social movements aren't founded on boredom and laziness.

For all the occupy folks, try something new you dumb a@@es! You want to sit out where no one cares a RATS A@@ about you, Wall Street!!!!!!!!!!, universities or college campuses!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry universities are just a tool of propaganda in today’s economy!!!

Try occupying the following stadiums, NBA, NFL, NHL, and NASCAR, businesses P&G, McDonalds, Wal-Mart, Target, and the list goes on. THE BANKSTERS local locations and then you might impress me, the UPPER 1% runs or own all of that!

The country I once knew and loved is gone, I just might join you then if you go after their BALLS…………………………….

AND BOTH PARTIES HEADQUARTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Police arrest people who they believe break the law. Protesters are not above the law.

great call Esperanza! The ows in Seattle are now squatting in vacant homes saying they are doing it for the displaced former owners. How very high and mighty of them - glad they are there to defend what we have not asked them to - flying their anarchy flags - this is just a group of folks with absolutely nothing to do but set out to cause some trouble. I soon as I saw that that was the end of anything resembling something of value.

I also find it fascinating that people feel this group can just set up wherever they feel like it and it should be OK. How about I come set up my tent in your living room (this is for those of that belief) and do whatever I feel like in your home, your front lawn, your place of work, study or wherever you go - I'll just tag along and chant and bug you. Don't you dare tell me to leave or have me removed by force - if you do you are a hypocrite ... now can you see how pathetic the ows is?

What kind of "free" are you talking about Rockyroad? Last I looked, you can't erect a structure on public property. And then there is the minor matter about having the proper permits.

"Police arrested Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King. That's what cops do."

OH WAIT, now that you mention it... I DO remember reading about MLK building a shack with a bunch of others without shirts! LOLOLOLOL your ignorance fuels these people. I don't want to see my city look like a shanty town if these squatters had their way. For once I am with the Police on this one!

These guys were more about having fun, like 5 year olds who built their 1st fort.

Take a shower, you stink of stupid.

gloria, been there done that - seen them in portland and seattle - not much to see and low and behold, the news slowed down so they are on the front page again. tell me how the numbers of the ows stack up against folks such as hells angels motorcycle gang? yep, hells angels are bigger, that should tell you how small this movement is...sorry to break it to you - these folks have nothing to do, no plan and well, that really gets you nothing.

...thats funny Rocky Road, funny how? heres how, your free to sit, voice your liberal bias opinion to people, but as soon as someone like me voices something different (here) the "community" collapses what is said, because it doesnt fit with their liberal view.

you know what else is funny: what does the 1800 pound British bomb found in Germany and the OWS have in common? They are both duds.

oh hurry, collapse this before someone complains of bad humor!

The police did the right thing arresting them and tearing down their little fort. They have no right to be building structures on public land, particularly without any permits. There little shack was nothing more than an eyesore that needed to go. These OWS protesters are just a bunch of people sitting around with their hands out waiting for the nanny state to take care of them. Well guess what, life does not work that way. No one is guaranteed the American Dream, the only thing that is guaranteed is the right to pursue that dream through your own hard work and ambition. No one owes you anything except your right to live free and pursue your own dreams, so long as you do not infringe on others rights in doing so. No one owes you a house, no one owes you a job, no one owes you a college education. These are all things you must work for to get. Most of the rich got that way through their own hard work, perseverance, and sacrifice; they did not have it handed to them. Granted, some inherited their wealth, but somewhere along the line someone in their family worked to generate that wealth, it did not magically appear. Try reading about the sacrifices that some of the founders of big companies made to get their business started. Many of them barely scraped by for long periods of time while pursuing their dreams until the hard work started to pay off. You have no right to share in their wealth or demand that they give you some of that money unless you do something to earn it from them. Sitting on your azz in some park does not earn you anything. No one is going to forgive your student loans because you spent $50,000 majoring in art history and can't find a job. Why should those of us who studied subjects that actually had a career path attached to them and put in all the work now support you because you made a bad choice and took a easy fluff major so you could party all through school. This entitlement attitude needs to end. People need to get used to taking care of themselves again instead of looking to the government to take care of them.

"I hear and I forget, I See and I remember, I do and I understand." - Lao

You all will understand when you are out on the streets staring up at the iron tower of an authoricratic regime run by a small elite Group of Bankers.

Wake Up Now: While I agree with most of your post, no one has the right break park rules while exercising their right to assemble. Breaking up their camps isn't anything to do with the First Amendment. The protesters can come protest when the park is open, during the day, and not trash the place at night. Besides, who's going to see them in the dark?

JS

Well said

OWS points the finger at every one but themselves. I have never heard them say, I shouldn't have spent so much on my house, school, vacation or flat screen TV. Or they never said "That bank shouldn't have given me the loan" They need to take some blame like we all do, but they take none.

But don't worry about OWS. They will end up as a footnote that accomplished nothing but the trashing of public places and a lot of arrests on lazy people's records.

The article stated that the structure was 30' high, that would make the man in the photo with his arms in the air over 10' tall!

They also put their life on the line daily for all of us, including you! How quickly we forget the heroic efforts of our Police Officers, Firefighters and our men and women in uniform. Let’s look back at 911, everyone else was running the other way but who did you see running towards the twin towers as they were collapsing. Any major news event with human life at stake you will always see our men and women in blue running into harm’s way. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but it comes across to me as moronic. The police aren’t perfect but who of us are?

Many Occupiers claim that Wall Street received special treatment. That those who caused the financial meltdown deserve to be tarred and feathered. Yet when actual names are named, liberals go silent when they realize that the evil corruption they rail against can be located in the political mirror.

Liberals love wailing about Wall Street because Wall Street is inaccurately seen as “Republican.” Wealthy industries associated with liberal Democrats, such as Hollywood, are never given the same level of scrutiny.

Back in 1994 liberals across America chanted with glee when ultra-conservative Orange County, California, went bankrupt. Those evil white Christian Republicans mismanaged their money. Yet Orange County Treasurer Robert L. Citron was a Democrat. His big bets involving complex (at the time) derivatives not only ruined his county’s bond rating from AAA to C status, but it nearly brought down Merrill Lynch

Gee BizProdigy been there done that,really?

As far as the numbers go wait it gets better.Do you know what desperation does to people? It does a lot of funny things.However you've been there and done that, and you know what?You really haven't learned a dam thing.You're blind as a bat.

Markmo

Excellent point. Again OWS says the "Police" are bad. Why? Because the police arrest OWS for breaking laws? The Police are the finest and bravest. Yes there are some "bad apples" in the police force, but there are "bad apples" everywhere. To call the police bad because they arrest OWS people is so off base. But OWS has been consistently off base. Don't worry. OWS is dead.

Sandrich

I am ALL FOR free speech. But OWS has have broken ordinances, defecated in public, blocked entrances to business, squatted illegally, stayed in parks after hours, etc. They are breaking laws. Let them speak all they want. They really don't have much to say. They know nothing about business or taxes.

But don't break the laws. The should and will be arrested.

Bingo j70141 in Colorado!

Colorado

Great idea. Very American. OWS can go ahead and break the laws, and when the police show up, the guys that protect us and risk their lives, hit them over the head with your baseball bat. Now that is American. While you are at it, go after the firemen, they have never helped me. All they do is show up when there is a fire. Yeah, OWS go after all the people who risk their lives so that you can get more handouts from the government. You deserve it. You worked hard pitching your tent and making a sign with your magic marker. (sarcasm added)

I thought this was a free country?

No, you have to earn a living and pay for things

Lar,

Police arrest people who they believe break the law.

Actually, they can't do it that way. They can only make an arrest AFTER a law has been broken. Otherwise they could get into some serious hot water. {civil rights violations and such.} It has to do with that whole "innocent until proven guilty" stuff. And if they try to do it under "pretext"... Lets just say that that can be even more troublesome for the POs. ~_o

Q: Do you trust the federal government?
A: Ask the Native Americans!

yep Gloria, I have - I'll wait and see I guess as the numbers have been declining at a steady rate for ows. So not sure what you see - I've seen it fall apart in portland and seattle. anyhow, if I'm blind i'll say you are as well - because gosh darn it, i shouldn't have an opinion different from yours now should i? makes me wrong - :) - i love you libs - so much fun to banter with - 'agree with me our your ... like ... well ... dumb and stuff!' haha, have a great day! and smile, it's good for you.

Wake Up Now... Just shut up already. No-one has liked your posts all day. I have been seeing them and they are irrelevant. We all know those documents and in no way do they apply to these people building whatever they want where-ever they want.

Where do you live? Tell all of us so we can come to your house and build a shack in your living room. Its our "freedom" to do so right? WRONG. I would be arrested on the spot. The cops gave these guys a hour to dismantle it and clear out. The cops gave these guys a choice that they would not give the rest of us so freely.

Your earlier post quoting the constitution is right. IF America(and I mean all of America, not just you and your minority of extreme liberals) decided we needed a new Government, then we would pursue it. That means even the military and police would be there with us demanding a new government, not just you. You forget, they are Americans too, just like me and you. You are trying to ignite a revolution and you will not succeed sir. So for the sake of my IQ, please do not subject us to your ignorant comments. Please and thank you

And the also arrest THOUSANDS of legitimate criminals for every one you claim...just like this time.

And wake up now...freedom to assmpble does NOT give you the right to break OTHER laws. The first amendment gives you the rights to speak freely withn OTHEr laws. Otherwise, your parents would have murdered you LONG ago andclaimed they were just pracitcing free speech.

These idiots were allowed to assemble to months. IT was not until they broke OTHER laws by erecting a permanent structure that they were arrested.

If you honestly don't see a difference, then realize THAT is why you can't hold down a job and your life is horrible.

As "enforcers" for the 1% the police have forfeited the support to have their interests included in the efforts by the 99% to protect government jobs and cutbacks.

Give the GOP the government (police) job cuts they want in exchange for the payroll tax cut extension.

@Thel4ugh!ngm@n Earlier you wrote...

"just another example of how much of a police state this country has become. An undercover goes in and kills a protester, reports it to the cops, and gives the authorities an excuse to evict the whole lot of them."

Now you wrote...

"You all will understand when you are out on the streets staring up at the iron tower of an authoricratic regime run by a small elite Group of Bankers"

And again I repeat...

LOL Do you also smoke Meth in your parents basement?! LOLOLOL Where do you come up with this paranoid @!$%#?? I also bet the Cookie monster is selling US Military codes to the Golbal Elite for chocolate chip cookies! LOLOLOL You are pretty dumb bro!

Also adding...

Stop reading your "alternate news sources". Just because you can use a google search bar doesn't mean your educated. Anyone can start up a alternate "news" source. Just build a website, fill it with radical theories, don't site any sources and BAM you got yourself a standard site not much different to where your getting your crap.

PROVE to me and the world that the Illuminati, neo-cons, Zionists, Bankers are plotting to make you their bitch. Better get your knee-pads out because thats alot of people who are going to own the world.

I personally don't think anyone knows the TRUTH. I am Christian and I believe in Revelations, but you don't see me making comments on every article on how the Anti-Christ is plotting to make a one world church do you? You know why? No-one can prove any of these thories actually exist. Be weary though... IF there is a NWO coming we will all be screwed. No-one knows HOW and IF it could happen!

You don't see me saying; "the evil powers that are lurking in the shadows are using OWS to ignite a global revolution. You forget the OWS is leaderless, and if OWS comes to overthrow every government for fears of bankers taking over. Who will lead them? Maybe thats there plan?!?! Oh no! I guess I will just sit in my basement and never do anything for fears of supporting the NWO...."

LOLOLOL GIVE ME A BREAK

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

This "movement" is done!

These buffoons have no idea what they're doing anymore. Not that they had any clue from the beginning. I was almost going to give them a look when I saw they were in D.C. Contrary to their despising the "1%" the true criminals and corruptions, reside in Washington D.C.

When more than half of our Congress is made up of millionaires how can anyone believe they will magically dissolve their allegiance to big money? It's been over 3 years since the economy collapsed, where are the arrests? Where are the indictments? Where are the ongoing Congressional hearings? Where are the regulatory agencies that allowed this to happen being investigated? Where? Nowhere!

Our fatally flawed incestuous relationship between Congress, the Federal Reserve and the Fractional Reserve Banking system prohibits any investigation as there MUST be collusion. How better to avoid exposing the collusion than to just throw a few more meaningless regulations in the Dodd-Frank Act and hope this never happens again? More importantly, deceive the masses that it was everyones fault but the governing bodies that enabled the collapse to occur in the first place.

If the OWS, 99%, Occupiers had any clue they would delineate their effort in 3-4 simple agenda's. Something like this:

1. Taxed Enough Already

2. Fiscal responsibility

3. Constitutionally limited government

4. Free-market principles

Four simple values to be returned to our government.

The OWS useful idiots need to put up or shut up.

Very simple.

Why were all the good and honest comments about OWS collapsed??...This is a classwar...OWS is doing the dirty work for all middle-class and poor Americans...Our freedom is based on dissent...The ability to suppress dissent is what is happening throughout the world (mid-east, England, Greece, Etc.)...We don't want that to happen in the USA...You can't always believe what you hear on the news broadcast...The rich own the networks and can (& do) influence what is or is not reported...If the greed directed against the middle-class and poor is not stopped America will no longer be the the "Home of the Brave and Land of the Free"...Suppot the OWS...It may be our only hope for a better future in America...

Rick I disagree with you on OWS but agree completely about the collapse. Virtually nothing here was inappropriate and was good back and forth argument. Whoever collapsed this is unAmerican. Rick while I disagree with you on OWS I applaud your right to free speech and keep it up.

Christ!!!!! will you loons stop with the collapse complaining all you have to do is click on the + sign and the comment expands again....It doesn't go away no great cabal is stopping your comments and replies from being read...There sure are alot of tin-foil hat wearers around here.....Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa

sw philly

thanks for your advice but I already know that a collapsed comment can be opened. Otherwise, how could I have written what I wrote. Can I take my tin foil hat off?

I was just complaining because the collapse indicates that someone thinks the posts are inappropriate. I don't and think that person was wrong.

Explain this to me, every other country falling in the economy. When I say country I mean every citizen in it. Americans are the only ones who haven't completely stood up. They are happy being lied to with their entertainment. When was the last time you sat down and noticed it wasn't entertaining, it was just keeping you busy. A great many of these protesters have jobs, but you wouldn't believe that because FOX News told you that they all are homeless(not saying just FOX news but my point with media). There are trying to put an act against terrorism on our home soil saying a simple activist is an enemy. Does this make since? This is un-consitutuional. This is turning into fascism. Were like Nazi germany killing in the name of Jesus. Jesus invented christianity for unity, not war, not hate. Hew would be ashamed of us. He would be so upset. Also our U.S. police system is been screwed with. They by law can't attack us, they work for us to defend us from the citizens enemies, there our security force and they are being used against us. You may not like all the people there, all the political views, the religious differences or the way their working things, but the point is this is to unify us just incase we have to fight back. Its not rebellion, its philosophy being out into act.

put out into an act

sure, do you know where I can get one. You do realize that over 4 million people in this country are looking for jobs? Smara** comment mam!

unemploy numbers are dropping and when you look you will find - I see jobs open all over around here - even the local worksource has jobs available all day long on it's job board. guess since i was willing to relocate to where the jobs are (on my own dime in a uhaul a few years back) that has helped. opportunity all day long - doesn't come knocking on your door though...

I hear they're looking for tomato pickers in Alabama. Hop a train and have fun!
Honestly, these people are so high and mighty that they aren't willing to take a minimum wage or manual labor job. They expect the job that they want, the job that they THINK they "deserve" to be handed to them on a silver platter, complete with a six-figure salary and benefits. Some of those who expect this are the college graduates camping out in the streets with ZERO job experience because they partied through college instead of getting a job. There's no place easier to find an entry-level job than a college campus; I walked into a campus cafe my very first week of school and they were hiring...talked to the manager and I was working a week later.

@madcitizen: Plenty of jobs available - just not the kind you want, right? And I thought you were desperate...

Plenty of jobs in oil in North Dakota.

Plenty of STEM (science, tech, engineering, math) jobs sitting vacant all across America. Even with all the Indians, Chinese, and Eastern European people filling most jobs like these in America, there are still many positions in these fields that aren't filled.

Alabama has jobs picking vegetables.

Guess no one wants any of these jobs.

Another brain dead one!

Mad Citizen: sure, do you know where I can get one. You do realize that over 4 million people in this country are looking for jobs? Smara** comment mam!

I hear the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps or Coast Guard is hiring. While attending college I ran out of money and wasn’t sure what I was going to do. The military opened up a lot of doors for me not to mention afforded me the opportunity to finish school. I will be the first to admit that sitting on my azz in some park demanding that someone should provide me a college education would have been much easier, less dangerous and less worry for my family no to mentions all of the time I spent deployed away from home. I agree the job market is tough but there are jobs to be had. Maybe not starting out as a CEO or paying 100K a year but there are jobs out there. There are cities in North Dakota that can’t fill jobs because of the booming oil business there. I understand it may require a move but there are jobs. Flip side of the coin it is easier to complain and demand that those who have worked hard and are successful give some of their wealth away to those who will not make the sacrifices themselves.

Esparanza......I couldn't agree more with your comments!!

Tomato picking in Alabama in December? Really.... where did this employment information and the other stereotypes that "everyone" in this protest is both lazy and jobless come from? Fox News or the other 5 news sources we are allowed possibly? With any social movement there are always a variety of opinions and ideas that need to be said to bring about any form of social change. Even though many of us here do not necessarily agree with every aspect of the movement itself, I am fairly certain that most people can agree that something seriously needs to change in our society before we totally implode or go bankrupt for that matter from what has become and accepted as business as usual in our society. It is not the fault of the Republicans, the Tea Party, or the Democrats (the figure heads we are expected to hate), it is a failure within the system itself and the fact that we are divided as a population. It is ok to not agree with everyone but we all have to voice our ideas and demand change if any any of us are ever going to get our 300 million plus voices back in Washington over these special interest groups and lobbyists who use donations/bribes to crush our ability to bring about the changes that we all know are necessary. Forget about being angry with a particular party, instead agree to disagree with the level of corruption in Washington because of campaign contributions and the lack of reforms to prevent the level of greed that has gotten us into this financial mess in the first place because human history ALWAYS repeats itself over and over.

Daniel, there really are STEM jobs sitting vacant across the US, and there really are oil jobs available in North Dakota. The vegetable gigs were more last month and the month before, so that one may not be as valid as before, but the point is the same and true, there are jobs available. If people are claiming that unemployment is low or our economy is booming, then they're just being ridiculous...but no more ridiculous than the people claiming there are absolutely no jobs available, when there are, or claiming they're desperate, but then refusing low paying ones because "they're not enough to live on."

I agree there should be some changes, too, (especially in real estate and lending!) but squatting for months on end in parks with absolutely no coherent message whatsoever, and therefore, logically, no proposed action items, isn't the way to go about it. Neither is building some structure without any kind of permit and leaving ridiculous amounts of trash when finally being rightfully evicted.

Start a real grass-roots movement, protest legally, have a REAL and SINGLE cause (not 20+ ridiculous "forgive all student loans" and "boycott companies that test on animals" types of items), and propose real action items. In other words, do the opposite of what OWS is doing.

So much for "This Land is Your Land, This Land is My Land" song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s

THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND
words and music by Woody Guthrie

Chorus:
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me

As I was walking a ribbon of highway
I saw above me an endless skyway
I saw below me a golden valley
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

I've roamed and rambled and I've followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts
And all around me a voice was sounding
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

The sun comes shining as I was strolling
The wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling
The fog was lifting a voice come chanting
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

As I was walkin'  -  I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side  .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!

Chorus

In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.

We (the American people as Republicans, Democrats and independents) need to promote a constitutional amendment banning all non governmental financing of elections.

That should be something the overwhelming majority of us can agree on.

Protest in DC by all means, but this problem is happening at all levels of our government, and is literally being paid for by these huge multinational corporations.

This can't be done without the American public coming together, put our other differences aside. The effort can't be led by politicians because their political opponents would then be funded by the corporations.

OWS and the Tea party started partly as a reaction to the corruption the current corporate election system has wrought . The reason the Banks not only were bailed out, but the reason they needed to be bailed out was because the banks have been able to rewrite the rules they do business under.

The reason we can spend trillions on wars, but only millions on cancer research, or education, or infrastructure or anything that would benefit those of us here at home, is because military contractors and oil companies (who don't want to spend their own money on security in risky nations) spend taxpayer money on electing people who will keep certain conflicts going that stand to improve their bottom lines.

Conservatives, liberals, and moderates are all being screwed by this problem.

Perfect. These pictures are circulating around the world and speak volumes about our

democracy-right to peacefully assemble and protest. We look like a damned police state

that we are becoming.

Our armies occupy a good portion of the world including Irag and Afghanistan but look what the government does when its children try to occupy America! Great image. It's a great country...pass it on...pass it...hey who won the last Super Bowl!

Here is what I think of the protesters. For many of them they have nothing to lose since they do not own anything, but apparently have a lot of debt, few skills, and a lot of demands. The person that has a family, a home, a car, etc. that is out of work is too busy looking for work because they do have a lot to lose.

This is why the protesters don't understand that building a structure overnight that could fall on somebody and kill them doesn't penetrate their minds. It isn't their structure, nor their money that built the structure, and they don't know about insurance, or lawsuits or emergency rooms and who all will then have to pay for their folly.

I still haven't gotten over the gal that said she was a regular student that will graduate owing over 250,000 in educational expenses. She mention she was attending northeastern in MA. The cost if over 50,000 a year. Yes, she sure is regular.

Perhaps what needs to change is work ethic, pride, and self-sufficiency. We have reached a point where too many people have no idea how to take care of themselves. They have always relied on Uncle Sam, or mom and dad, to provide for them. The change needed is for these folks to go home, clean up, and go find any kind of job that they can. It's amazing how earning a paycheck, no matter how small, can instill pride in someone and put them on the right path.

Hey Gramps, that's not a picture from Syria or Libya...it's right here in D.C.! "You come away from that gawl dang computer Timmy and quit crying over those dang hippies...they're getting what they ask for!" But gramps, that's dad's head they're busting for speaking out against social injustice. "Well he ain't had good judgement since he came back from the war!" Which war gramps? "Just pick one....there's a job opportunity in every war son!"

AN OPEN LETTER TO “JEFFREY IMMELT”, THE MAN IN CHARGE OF THE FAILING US-ECONOMY!

Since you accepted this position from the President month ago no one has heard from you again, why? --- Where are you? --- Are in Hawaii working on creating “the massage capital of the world,” --- I hope not, because the US Economy is now totally in shambles! --- None of us 99% -ers has heard anything from you about this or seen even an outline for a rescue-plan for what needs to be done! --- What do we 99% have to do Jeffrey to get your attention? The American people (all of them, not just your GE stockholder) have a right to hear from the person who was given the power and responsibility to restore our economy and the to restore the fate of our people. “Larry Summers” never did his job or took responsibility. He just made Millions for himself by giving speeches to Industry. --- Damn him, --- are you made of the same stuff? – Maybe not, at least the President thought you to be more a man of action to get “things” done. Your fame, Jeffrey, is based on being the best 20th century Capitalistic CEO, but that is a quality which will not save our country, and instead will ruin it. As I said in the next chapter on an economic solution: “putting a famous CEO (Jeffrey Immelt) in charge of the US economy is like:
“putting a fox in charge of the hen house”. ------- It’s a death-sentence for our country -----------
Why is that? ------ Because your thinking and your actions have been honed to perfection inside the “Box of 20th century Capitalism” which has certainly strengsened GE and please your stockholders, but you cannot run an Americal Corporation without a country to base it on. Trouble is that nothing in that 20th century box can save our country in a 21^th century Global economics. ---- 20th Century Capitalism must perish the same as Comunism has done years ago. Basically that is what all these World-wide 99% OCW demonstration are about. (Don’t blame the demonstrators for not knowing, because neither do you!

You help from University Professors who have thought and written about this NEW kind of GLOBAL economy. (Peter Morici and Joseph Stiglitz come to mind, but there must be others.)

What needs to be done (yesterday) is to generat and publicizing a good rescue-plan for two reasons. “Plausible Deniability”, showing that it wasn’t you who failed, because any such workable plan will certainly be instantly rejected by the Washington politicians. --- Where is your workable PLAN Jeffrey? --- Second, a good workable plan will give our “People “hope” in a time when “Marshal-law” has to be declared to prevent massive mayhem across the country. The 99% of Americans want to hear about your Rescue PLAN Jeffrey. Without such plan, you have no alibi to avoid the BLAME in the eyes of the general public for letting our country be run into the ground. You accepted this job from the President Jeffrey: --- Now Do it --- Damn it!

In another post I will present a workable plan which was generated from ideas of two people. One part is from the work of Professor A.N. Christensen at the “Harvard Business School”, the other from my own work as “Member of Technical Staff” with Bell Laboratories. I worked on it for “10 engineering men years” (on my own). --- Unfortunately, both of us have a terminal illness, --- cancer for Christensen and heart failure for me. (It’s YOU who will have to do most of the work.)

Here are five quotes from knowledgeable business leaders predicting the US future (in 2007)
-------- Any “RESCUE-PLAN” must address all these issues and more and SOLVE THEM:------

Jack Gifford, CEO of Maxim Inc: “… an increasing number of design engineering jobs are moving overseas. If this trend of the past 10 years continues over the next years, the U.S. will lose its position of technical leadership in the World. America’s high standard of living, brought about by technological innovation, will cede to Asia. The lack of growth in our engineering schools, the result of tepid demand, is symptomatic of the problem.”
Brian Halla, National Semiconductor “We are in the most disruptive, the most exciting, the most dangerous period since any of us was born. It's all about the new industrial revolution. Only this time, if our politicians have their way, the great American dream will move to Shanghai.”
Craig Barrett, Chairman of Intel: “--- the United States is losing its edge over other nations in education, technology and research and development. For example, well-educated engineers from China, India and Russia are competing with the United States for jobs " Question: What do you think the U.S. industry of the 21st century is going to be? --- “Agriculture!" he said. "We're sending our workers into the marketplace with a disadvantage: their [lack of] education”.
Prof. Ben G. Streetman, dean of the College of Engineering, University of Texas, and member of the National Academy of Engineering gives another dire prediction. He writes: “Every year, we’re educating about half the number of engineers that the country needs and importing the rest. “That’s a prescription for going out of business as a country.”
Jeffrey Immelt CEO of GE …"More people will graduate in the United States in 2006 with

-------- What is the SIGNIFICANCE of these Word-wide OWS demonstrations?------
Here are the Prophetic words by Tom Friedman, the famous journalist with “The New York Times” ::
“Now let me say that in English: the European Union is cracking up. The Arab world is cracking up. China’s growth model is under pressure and America’s credit-driven capitalist model has suffered a warning [major] heart attack and needs a total rethink. Recasting any one of these alone would be huge. Doing all four at once — when the world has never been more interconnected - is mind-boggling.
--- We are again present at the creation - but of what?

-------- [ Never in the history of modern man has such a global event ever happened ] -----

As for America, we’ve thrived in recent decades with a “credit-consumption-led economy”, whereby we maintained a middle class by using more steroids (easy credit, subprime mortgages and construction work) and less muscle-building (education, skill-building and innovation). It’s put us in a deep hole, and the only way to dig out now is a new, hybrid politics that mixes spending cuts, tax increases, tax reform and investments in infrastructure, education, research [innovation] and production. But that mix is not the agenda of either party. Either our two parties find a way to collaborate in the center around this new hybrid politics, or a third party is going to emerge
-------— or we’re stuck and the pain will just get worse”.

[ Of the three demanded activities, education, skill-building and innovation, –- none is financially or otherwise supported by our present Government. --- This omission is an act of National-suicide.]

Alan Flanders of Virginia,

Ah, so the police shouldn't arrest people who break the law huh? They should just allow people to break the law, endanger the lives of other people and not do anything when those individuals attempt to assault police officers for trying to do their jobs?

I really feel sorry for people like you Alan. Your emotions obviously override any logic or intelligence you may have, though I must question your level of either one if you think America is turning into a police state. You obviously know nothing about what a REAL police state looks like. I suggest you talk to someone from China. They can probably clue you in on how stupid your comment is.

Here's a hint to all of you OWS supporters who think the protestors have a right to do whatever they want, whenever they want. You...are...WRONG. If you build something in a public place without a permit, the police are going to come tear it down. If you attempt to interfere with that action, you will be arrested. It's very simple.

The OWS group's hearts might be in the right place, but their brains obviously aren't.

Well Kent State and Jackson State and the shootings of our civil rights leaders, May Day Demonstration Against the War arrests and beatings......looks like a type of police state developing to me and millions of others here and around the world! I am convinced we are treating our own children very, very poorly and leaving them a legacy of dispair and distrust. When the majority of the nation thinks that the government operates solely for the benefit of the 1% of us who are fortunate, then I side with the people. Come on, join our liberal movement to save America. Be proud to stand up and wear the liberal banner again; WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! And why do you conservatives start personally attacking people who you disagree with words like stupid. Come on now young fellow, quite being a child and argue like an adult. And I am absolutely certain that I have a much, much better education than you. In fact, we wouldn't let anyone even apply who writes at the level you do. But I will not lower myself to your level and personally attack you as I think you are already too pathetic.

One just can't pick up and move to the garden states to harvest fruit and vegatables..need money for this too. Moving often requires a family to move too--kids to the elderly. It isn't easy to just get up and move to another loction. Don''t have funds to move even when getting rid of life's objects. Education from the basics in primary years through senior age--AARP age has become unreachable due to cost. There are many people in this country with bright brains but can't utilize their smarts because of lack of opportunity. Then the selfishness greedy people on the rise. They can help by reinvesting their money in businesses, help get people started in a business. Heaven gates are already paved in gold, it is useless there and you can't take it with you. One can only spend so much money...giving from the rich to the rich.

Then there is medical. Well, if one is denied medical care to help on survive an injury, disease, etc. and there is care available it is assisted medical suicide to deny someone treatment no made the cost whether one can afford it or not. Suits may have to take priority on this one for a wake up call to avoid medical selection on shall live or die. If the patient denies treatment it is one thing if not it is another, a right to choose.

Not everyone is capable or skilled in all fields of work. Can someone in a wheelchair pick pumpkins or work construction? Can a 65 year old join the military for the first time. The list goes on and on. Life of jobs is not an easy selection. Would one like to have a electrician do major surgery or a sweater maker operate a boiler. Is the gov't at fault, not totally. The population grews in this country and people living longer and the job market is not growing with it. Many laws prohibit one from getting companies going to hire on people. people depend to much on others --- companies for their earnings. Getting back to basic needs for living is required and this goes for ALL poor to mighty rich cults of people or worship money and goods as their gods.

BizProdigy and rjh4509

Wake Up! Do you think the news and everybody are lying? I have a full time job and am lucky. In Mid-Michigan, there are no jobs. Trust me, I know hard working people that have fought tooth and nail to get a job for more than two years and nothing. All their resources have been consumed. What? You think they all have an extra million in the bank to live on? Another friend got lucky, I guess, if you can call this luck. He used to work in a metal shop running a machine. After two years of searching for him, he now gets 8 - 12 hours per week, minimum wage, working at Save-a-Lot. Now how in the Hell do you expect somebody to survive on that???? Maybe near you there are jobs available, but what about the rest of the country?? This country is going down the toilet fast! You may be losing your job next. Why don't you try putting yourself in their shoes for just a moment. Yes I will agree there are a bunch of lazy bums that just suck off the system and have no intentions of working, but not all of them are like that. As a matter of fact, why is our government paying these people to not work? When are the politicians going to quit selling out the American workforce?

They subdue by number as one is more likely to submit. Rather then one office having to beat the dumb f when he did not submit and end up getting sued by the same POS for excessive force because they decided they could over take one officer. Sounds like you have deep seeded hate for an organization that possibly knows you well. They are doing their job, enforcing the laws that are passed by people well above the officers. These men and woman are only doing their job, probably to feed their families and actually support this economy by doing so, not collecting handouts like the 99% apparently want. Yes we live in a free country but we still have laws. Obey them and will never get to know your local law enforcement.

Well said, Well. Jeffy shows his ignorance about police work. Three/four/five men can handle a protester quickly, and with minimal chance of hurting the idiot. Using only one can, far more likely, get the protester killed. Is that what Jeffy really wants?

Overwhelming force. It's how things get done. You retarded anarchists have been coddled by the liberal mentality for so long you think everything should be "fair" ie: to your advantage. News flash-Life isn't fair. Now that I've cleared that up for you , you can act like an adult and get your filthy butts out of my parks and streets and go do something productive with your otherwise wasted lives.

I Wonder where they stole the material to build their little fort.

yeah my first collapsed by the community.

It's scary when the government can wield storm-troopers, to be sure. Something very gestapo-esque about it.

That being said, I'd have no issues if common citizens decided to start pelting this scum on their own time. Rotten vegetables, flaming bags of excrement... whatever is available.

The cops can referee.

The police are our proxies. I wouldn't want to lay my hands on those filthy pigs, might get lice, mites, fleas, or bedbugs, and other kinds of cooties.

Storm troopers? HA! You know so little.

Fight

"It is ok for corporate companies to sell unsafe products to the American people." It sounds as if you're interested about safe products. But that all changes when the OWS builds a unsafe structure that could collapse on the OWS or the police. You want corporations to get permits to make products legally but refuse to get a permit yourselves.

Those who do not know history are bount to repeat the same mistakes.

Occupy DC ? One better read up on the 1930's when WW 1 vets and their families appealed to the Government and to FDR for the bonus payments they were suppose to recieve for participation in the War to End all wars. They camped in DC and FDR's answer was to have McArthur lead the US Calvery, mounted on horeback, with full weapons displace the protesters, route the camps and women and children there, along with the Vets who wanted what the government had granted them for their service.

Oh well the Hope and Change President is just doing his job protecting the 1% who financed his election. Payback to the people is a bitch !

Coke-3805216, your information is off. The Bonus Army action took place in 1932 BEFORE the election. Not that FDR doesn't deserve blame, the worst year of the Depression was 1937 and the economy did not return to pre-1929 levels until 1948 or 1949, but don't blame him for what isn't his fault.

I believe the Hope and Change comment was referring to Obama, not FDR...

actually stormtroopers is the name for Hitlers elite SS force. They were basically is body guards.

Oh hush danny...have your mom whip up some cocoa and cookies for you and then you can sit in front of the TV and watch cartoons.

Dan Bushey:

Your post is inaccurate and incorrect. Protests may be conducted and have been quite frequently. The issue with "Occupy" is that the violate laws the police are required to enforce. "Occupy" will be able to continue to protest, and as often as they choose provided that they do not violate the law. "Protesting" is not a violation of the law, "violating building codes" and "disorderly conduct" are violations for which "Occupy" protestors are held to account. You are posting in an over-reactive manner.

As for their structure, I like the other posters comment...look into a construction job!

Bushey

No one has lost their freedom of speech or right to protest, they just need to do it legally, with the proper permits and in the proper areas. Their rights don't include erecting buildings.

I was in New York City recently and the protesters had taken over a park depriving me of my rights to use the park. It looked like a bunch of lazy deadbeats in the crowd.

I was in a public restroom and some toad was on the toilet depriving me of my right to use it. I had to find another. too bad you are so lame. Buy a walker. OH! the Kochs already bought that one and deprived you too.

Hey Dan, What padded cell are you writing from ? You have a right to protest , NOT CAMP OUT ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. I as a citizen would not hesitate to help the police take you to jail. If you get a college degree in a non-job available industry then YOU are at fault, not my problem or the government. Occupy 'This or That' are the 1%.