Amen, amen and amen! I'd love to see the politicians a little afraid of us for a change!!!!!!!!!

It is not just that there is a huge disparity, it is also that this "disparity" was deliberately caused.

When you understand the truth that only these 545 people exercise the complete power of the federal government, then it must mean that what exists today is what they wanted to exist and worked to cause. One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country (TY to Charlie Reese).

I still do not support OWS, but this aspect is a little more "on trak" than previous activities, like breaking local ordinances, blocking businesses, being anti capitalist, stealing houses, destroying public property, resisting arrest, rape, drugs, etc. That was all a waste of time.

HOWEVER, the government IS a big problem. I don't agree with this tactic, the movement needs to change elected officials, not sit in their office.

IMO this movement is in hospice Too many mistakes, too much aimless activities, too many law breakers, too much mis information about companies. I give it 6 weeks, and it will be gone until they try to revive it at the DNC and RNC. I can see these bearded pranksters, swinging from the chandeliers at the convention, yelling "down with anarchy". Chicago 7 anyone? Where is Abbie when you need him? Living on one of the 1000 Islands?

If every home owner who has been foreclosed upon, and every unemployed citizen came together at the Capitol, what a message that would make. The politicians would have to look us all in the face and tell us that we do not matter. Then the tomatoes would fly!!

When they grow to one million strong and march on the Whitehouse to take it back from the politicians, they will breach the doors to find none of the politicians there. The politicians are takers and certainly not fighters, but I wonder if they will see the writing on the wall??

When you understand the truth that only these 545 people exercise the complete power of the federal government, then it must mean that what exists today is what they wanted to exist and worked to cause.

While writing themselves exemptions from the same crimes that send every other American citizen to jail. Ask Martha Stewart!

Freakin A' Ray!!!!!!

Heheheh................"Love Stinks".

This is better than what they have been doing so far at least.

It WAS, just a matter of time. Rep or Dem, these people MUST, start thinking of WHO "We the people" are and be afraid of US, not if their jobs are secure, 1st!

This is a wonderful country and we have soooo much going for us, I hope these people stay peaceful, get a solid message across and those "545" ELECTED officials, "See the light"!!!

But than again, a few of them hanging from streetlights, in front of those 3 pretty buildings, might do the trick too....lol

Why just Not Vote in 2012! Hell, they keep our lives and livelihoods in limbo, why not us keep their lives in limbo??

Is this group taking also the offices of Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi or any of the Democrats that are colluded with the 1%. This movement need to learn that changes coming electing the right people, electing the same people over end over is insane. Barney Franks one of the architects of the housing collapse is not going for reelection this is good , but also every member who has a case in the ethic committee must go , Maxime Waters that gave Tarp money to her husband Bank, Nancy Pelosi that profit with fresh information about the financial market, Charles Rangel evade taxes , like them many more official elected that use Congress for personal gains. If this group is realy for the end of corruption they should demand lobbys af all kind , take their hands out of the government but Sen. Reid Democrat whose family earn money lobbyng will not favor it.

Nope, there are enough people dedicated to maintaining the status quo that not voting IS the problem.

If we had 85% participation in voting, and had 85% of the affected people showing up when politicians made their political pit stops the political climate would be very different.

Imagine how your congressman would react if he held a town hall meeting and 30,000 people showed up instead of 30...

Its the same small percentage of activists showing up at the "meet and greets". Its pretty easy to ignore 30 people when the donations from lobbyists roll in and you represent a district of 45,000 or more...

Hey Prince Charley and all these know it all know nothings think the movement is dying out.Let um babble.Wait it gets better.

You better believe the times they are a changing!

Corrupt and Spineless doesn't even begin to describe this government and these politicians!

What a shame, you know? I mean most people, certainly most here, think the Congress hasn't been doing what we, the voters, have wanted. The sad fact is that Congress always does what the people want over time. The founders knew this because they were students of history. We don't comprehend this because we are not. Not only are we not students of history we are also not students of economics.

The net effect of our historical and economic ignorance, coupled with our personal desires for free stuff given to us by the government, has been to stifle economic growth, to keep incomes flat, to weaken us relative to our international competitors, and to rob our heirs of their birthright to a great and prosperous nation.

I don't know about you all, but the Capitol never left us so there is nothing to take back. But we have left our constitution, and left it in tatters. You want back what you've "lost"? Fine, but you had better be ready to give back what you continually demand from a government simply too eager to buy your vote.

Actually, I see a lot of problems with our voting system. A few people start out running, then only two are selected to run on the official ticket (at least in the presidential election). Any candidate that can't get his name out in TV ads or an endorsement from one of the main political parties can't get elected. And to raise that kind of money, the candidate has to pander to lobbyists and special interest groups which then determine which policies he or she will support. All the masses are left to do, then, is choose the lesser of two evils. THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT. It's time for a major electoral system overhaul. Until then, more votes aren't really going to count.

OWS were against capitalism, banks, wall street of course...what is the message of occupy Washington? Is it the same? Is it against our elected officials? If so, what is the common message to them? Do they know?

There shouldn't be any Left or Right bickering on this one since for months now the Right has been telling the World that protesters needed to be at the White House. Anyone still gripping, just loves to gripe. I can't see any reason why the OWSers and the Tea partiers wouldn't both be at this site....or do the TPers need marching orders from Glen first? I hear the last sign that the Anti Christ is coming is when the Left and Right unite on something 8=)

Bob, other than a couple of representatives that are in districts where there are too few voters in the state in total, the average numbers represented in each district is around 710,000, not 45,000. Most of the politicians I know are very hard working, regardless of party affiliation, and almost everyone of them wants to be re-elected.

It seems to me the real problem we face is that too many people continue to think the federal government should be the provider of free stuff, and more free stuff, and even more free stuff. It's how we became indebted to the tune of $130 trillion. Yes, I know it's officially $15.1 trillion as of now, but when all debts are counted and added to all future planned expenditures, minus what we expect to take in each year in taxes over that time, it's over $100 trillion.

It's time to start asking your representatives to do less rather than more, don't you think?

There shouldn't be any Left or Right bickering on this one since for months now the Right has been telling the World that protesters needed to be at the White House.

Thats why I asked...has the message morphed appropriately? Or are they still lashing out at corporations and their products, as they buy and use them.

Hi AKelsey,

It's hard to imagine how one could be more wrong than you. I don't doubt for a minute that there are, on occasion, politicians that alter their policy goals in order to get a contribution, but these are very few and far between. The vast majority of politicians are sought out by those who agree with them, and vice versa, in order to facilitate campaign contributions. Don't believe me? Fair enough. You should be able to present many examples of politicians that have reversed course without explanation bec ause they got some benefit from a lobbyist.

I can think of several. These were the representatives led by Bart Stupak of Michigan (all were democrats) who opposed the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) over concerns about abortion language. No language was changed. They ended up voting for what they publicly said they could not, but only after meeting with the President and other democrats. It's a loose use of the word to call the President a "lobbyist" but for the sake of trying to prove your point I will. Other than this I can't think of a single case. So are you saying, really, that you think the President should not have been able to promise those democrats anything in order to get their votes so that you could have health care reform?

There is much wrong with the campaign finance structure in the USA. We have lots of ridiculous rules on who can give and how much and when and where and, well it's stupid. We ought to have two simple rules. First, if you can't vote for it you can't give to it. Second, whatever amount you give, no matter how large or small, goes through a political clearing house so that the money is reported on the internet the moment the candidate gets it in his/her account. I don't care how much someone gives so long as I can know the amount in order to determine if the candidate is "bought".

Anything beyond this flies, I think, in the face of the constitution, where political speech should be the highest priority for protecting.

So wait, Rich, I said we needed electoral reform, and it sounds like you just agreed with me. So how am I wrong again? Oh, you think that politicians don't alter their views or decisions based on who is giving them money. But then you say I can probably provide many examples of this. So...what??

I'm sorry, I don't think that a campaign contribution is the same as free speech. I don't think that's what the founding fathers had in mind when they set up the Constitution. Speech is speech, not an economic activity. I bet if I made a contribution to the Aryan Brotherhood or the Man-Boy Love Association, that would not be looked upon so kindly as "free speech." But then you say the rule should be "if you can't vote for it, you can't give to it." Since corporations can't vote in elections, I guess that would exclude them from contributing under your rules, which I'm all for. So, how am I wrong again?

Hi AKelsey,

I think the fact that in your reply you failed to mention even one example of a political contribution causing a candidate to alter his or her position, let alone the many you should be able to provide, is exactly why you can't be more wrong.

Corporations, unions, associations, you name it, including people outside the district in which the vote is being held, the too young, the too feeble, the too foreign, all of these and I'm sure there are other categories that we might agree on should be prohibited from contributing. But money is speech and you should respect that fact. You might not have the money to buy an ad on TV or radio or newspaper, but that fact doesn't mean it isn't speech. The founders paid for advertisements, hand bills, and the like. Hell, even Washington, long before he was president, paid for whiskey in order to get votes. That too was speech, even if slurred.

Rich, I would agree that the handbill or the ad constitutes free speech, but not the money that buys it. And buying people whiskey in exchange for votes isn't speech, it's bribery. The problem with big campaign finance is that it's often hard to determine which is which.

And I do, in fact, have a very recent example of Congressmen who voted a certain way based on lobbying. They were going to vote to change the school lunch nutrition requirements to reduce saturated fat and add more vegetables. A bunch of lobbyists for the frozen foods industry showed up and magically convinced the senators that the tomato sauce on pizza constituted 2 whole servings of vegetables and therefore didn't really need to be changed. But I suppose anyone could claim it's just coincidence that big food companies donate millions of dollars to these senators' political campaigns. I mean, think about it: who would you give more credibility to? The guy who says he likes you, or the guy who buys your lunch? These big contributions have a big impact when it comes to lobbying, and to deny that it does is naive. The psychological effects of money on people's decisions is a documented scientific fact. Yes, it starts with the contributors seeking out the candidates. But once the money is given and a major bill comes up for a vote, the career congressman isn't going to risk losing his biggest contributors over a minor difference in philosophy. It's called an economic incentive.

Really, what would be so horrible about having a taxpayer-funded election system where no one was allowed to make a private contribution? You can't really claim that it would limit free speech at all; the candidates would still get their ads, and the people would still vote for their favorite person.

Hi sandi,

Can you give me an example of a corporation raping you, particularly one allowed to do so by the government? I agree our government sucks if that was your general point.

Hi Rich If, sandi can't give you one,I can.Right in the state where I live.North East Utilities.It has the sub electric company called CL&P.I believe they made national headlines, because of their slow slow response to a snow storm at the end of October.These Idiots didn't have the man power to take care of downed wires dropped trees, and whole bunch of other messes.People were without power for 12 days.They had 800,000 customers, all without power.They had to call companies from other states to come and help them.Some of these companies wouldn't come because they were not paid from this slime bag company from a hurricane, named Irene they had gotten hit with in August.

Do you know why this clown electric company was unprepared, because these greedy slimmy CEO's were looking at profits and bonuses, to stuff their fat ass docker pants pockets with.They were also charging the Highest Electric Rates in the Nation.They're now down to 4th, but the electric bill is still ridiculously to high.

So now if that isn't raping the public I don't know what is

If she won't, I can. Three words: Bank of America. BofA sold inflated mortgages to high-risk borrowers to fund credit default swaps without properly obtaining and filing all the required paperwork. Then when borrowers began to default, the bank set up a robo-signing agency to create the legal documents they originally failed to obtain in order to foreclose on the homes. When the government set up the mortgage modification program, BofA used it as an opportunity to illegally push even more homeowners into foreclosure, including deployed military members. Meanwhile, they not only received taxpayer TARP funds to avoid bankruptcy, they've also been taking money (God knows how much) from the Fed's emergency discount window and are trying to push their European derivatives onto their FDIC-insured deposit base so taxpayers will have to pay for that, too, when it goes bad. Oh, and they also charge their customers OUTRAGEOUS fees on everything and conveniently lose files on old accounts so customers can't withdraw their money. And what have they gotten in return for all of this? A slap on the wrist, basically--pay a fine here, a settlement there, and it all goes away. If that's not an example of a government allowing a corporation to rape citizens, I don't know what is!

BINGO AKelsey!

You are both wrong. The power company is the easiest to disprove. The government doesn't, and shouldn't, require firms to employs a certain number of people in a case such as this to be prepared for a rare weather event. You might not like how the firm responded, and this is a fair complaint perhaps, but the government didn't allow it to happen.

The other case, Bank of America, is more complex. The loaning of money to people who shouldn't have taken out the note wasn't allowed by government, it was encouraged and rewarded. If that is what one means when they say "allowed" then we can agree. But to me the word means that BofA wanted to do something and was given permission to do it. In this case that would be totally false. Foreclosures is another matter.

The government at various levels has operated (admittedly after the fact) to prevent banks, BofA included, from executing improper paperwork. Some states in particular are now suing lenders, but this I think is just opportunism at work.

TARP and The Fed are interesting examples for you to post since neither allowed any firm to rape you, but both did allow the government to rape you. Your anger is misplaced. The Fed is not governmental anyhow, but is a private, for-profit, bank.

A good friend of mine rails against the banks over fees too. I tell him to switch to a bank that does for him a better job. But he doesn't want to, saying it's too hard to open a new account and transfer computerized payment information over, and so on. Which is of course crap. The real reason is that most of us want someone else to do for us what we want, when we want it, and for the price we want to pay (if at all), and when we don't get it our way we complain. But this, too, isn't "allowed" by the government--until now. Banks, imo, should be able to charge you whatever you are willing to pay in order to conduct your business with them, in the same way that you, as an employee, should be able to charge your employer whatever it is willing to pay to conduct business with you.

Economic liberty is priceless.

If the government gives money to keep in solvency an irresponsible institution engaging in fraud on their customers and investors, then the government IS allowing (hell, enabling) that institution to "rape" citizens. And the government DID allow the banks to make these bad mortgages. There are laws and regulations on the books that dictate how these mortgages must be made. The government failed to enforce them and allowed banks like BofA to push the loans through without all the proper documentation. Now they're half-heartedly trying to do something about these illegal foreclosures, but they're still happening and it seems no one is going to jail. Trust me, I've got plenty of anger reserved for the government over this as well.

Our country doesn't have absolute economic liberty. True, you can move your money from one bank to another. But what do you do when a bank buys your mortgage from your lender (without your input) and charges you fees on it, and you can't refinance? What do you do when your employer says, "I'm putting more of your paycheck into your retirement account," and then invests that money with Goldman Sachs? It's easy to switch banks; it's not so easy to switch jobs over things like that. There's lots of things going on in the financial world with people's money over which people have very little control. Universities invest their endowments with big Wall Street investment banks. Those investments go sour, and it means a tuition hike for students. Retirement accounts come with restrictions that often don't let people withdraw their investments when the stock market goes south. So the big banks gamble and the little guy pays. I'd love some economic liberty from that!

Rich, I guess you have not heard of the people who went to pull their money out of Citibank, then left the bank and had plainclothes police literally drag them back into the bank and redeposit (their own private account) the money? One of the people were also injured by those police.

I have heard that this has also happened at other banks, but the first one was actually reported on, though it is currently difficult to find.

This is not surprising since reporters are now banned from some things like OWS, or removed to a "reporters area" where they are told by the officers what is happening and what they can write.

Or in airports American citizens are not allowed to take pictures or text about what is going on and face charges. Remember airports are government funded, meaning WE pay for them and all our Rights as in the written guarantee of the Constitution (highest law of this land) apply there.

Hmmm .. sounds like illegally blocking Free Speech to me, does it to you? Nat sure what refusing to let American citizens pull their own money out of their own private accounts goes under - stealing by the banks?

I do know what the law enforcements actions goes under; domestic enemies, aiding and abetting domestic enemies, and actually is a crime. Their Oath is to "support and defend the US Constitution" before the duties of their job. They and the military are considered the "defenders under Oath" of the US Constitution, and of our Rights. "They are BOUND by their Oath to support the Constitution, and should they abrogate their Oath by their acts or inaction, are subject to charges of impeachment and censure" for all Oath-breakers, including the three branches of "our" government.

u got that right

Row row fight the power.

Every time I visit the White House on the internet I post a comment to Obama and his staff. I have done this over 100 times. I always ask for a reply. I have never gotten a reply. My questions are not rude. I, like my parents, am a lifelong Democrats. In 2008 I worked my ass off to get Obama elected. I am a popular member of the base since I don't make voters defensive. I always encourage everyone to please vote. We must vote to stay a democracy. I encourage people to serve on juries. As a young man I was honorably discharged from the marines in 1974. A lot of my friends are listed on the Vietnam Wall.

How come Obama never answers me. I realize I can't force him to answer me. The White House site says click here if you want a reply. I have ask for a reply over 100 times how come Obama never replies. Mr. Obama can kiss my ass if he ever thinks I will vote for him again. Meanwhile he kisses every Republican ass after they call his wife an uppity n...word. Why does Obama have no pride?

In 2012, I will vote for myself. I can spell my own name and type it correctly. I will definitely know how to represent myself in 2013. He hasn't tried for four long years I hope he gets a big turnout from Republicans. I dislike being a Democrat wiping Obama's spit from my face. Everyone thinks he will be reelected. By who, guys. If he could not keep my vote he is the world's biggest @!$%#. I always voted Democrat until now. In 2012 I will vote for myself. Screw the Republicans/Democrats we have only one party thanks to Obama.

Hey, vote for yourself in 2012. If nothing else history will remember you gote one vote.

cool yer jets, Riley; you actually have a lot going for you, you can write a coherent letter!!!

The President does take the time to reply to emails, only at a percentage of what he's given to read every week, and even from that point it's another stack that gets a second sampling, and so on. But your 100 emails will get noticed, and probably get a simple verbal staff acknowlegement like "Riley's cool, let him be."

Try sending the same email message with different closing lines every time?

Who knows, I wrote Eisenhower and Kennedy lots of different times when I was a kid and while I did get a reply from each one, I kinda knew they were form letters. Still, I was impressed anyway!

Don't go with the whiners in the GOP, stick with the 2008 winners, of course: Obama / Biden for a second term. Encourage everyone to vote, and encourage them to vote Democrat next year! We can do no less for this country.

Good post Riley, thankyou. Truth is they don't care about us. They care about themselves only. Whether they are Dem or Rep no matter, they are rich, lawyers most of em and just walk ov er and around the little guy. Time to end this mess.

Riley...#4.1... so everybody do a write in of their own name on the ballot in the presidential elections...what do you think will happen?

The only 2 things can happen 1. either a re-vote or 2. the present polititians and president remains in office.. if I am not mistaken....

So how will voting for one's self help anything or bring about change?

From the sound and look of things you are probably a 'bagger republican trying this new tack where people are being encouraged not to vote while on the other hand the rest of you then actually vote and get the outcome that you wanted in the first place.

By the way the republican and democratic party merging is nothing new and did not just happen in 2009 when President Obama took the oath of office.....

It is time folks start blaming themselves for voting these t'baggers republicans into congress. You keep doing the same thing expecting a different result each time.....

Well guess what, keep on voting against your own best interest thinking that trickle down economics work even when you realize that it never did in the first place and is what has brought us to this misery that we are now experiencing.....

People are losing their homes and jobs and I am sure that it is not only the socalled progressives, lefties, libbies, that are losing their homes and jobs..... this affects all of us.... you t'bagger conservative republicans and dinos are losing jobs and homes also....

It is time to face the day, turn off those vacuous 'faux' rants by these talking con heads protecting their multimillion dollar pay contracts and get real.

Nuance, nuance, nuance......

Signed.....No Serferation, USA (Used Spent/Sacked Abandoned)

Good idea Riley!

I know this will not fare well with some, but I will state the truth.

I have written my representatives on several occasions, and have received responses from some.

I have never received a response from the White House.

I have never received a response from my Republican Representatives.

I have received responses from my Democratic representatives.

What does this mean? Probably nothing.

The President receives millions of letters and emails per day, and one is impractical to believe that every correspondence can be answered.

However, I am a little troubled as to why my Congressional Republican representatives have not answered several emails and letters. Congress people do not generally receive the volume of mail per se as does the White House.

Thanks for your prompt reply rick-2756614. i would have been happy with a reply from anyone on the White House staff. A quick line from a cleaning lady at the White House would have cheered me up.

In 2008, I went door to door telling people in my town Bloomfield NJ (home of the Sopranos) that I was a white guy born in Harlem. Obama was a black guy born in Hawaii. I laughed and said I may know more about black guys than he does. I told people that Obama was funny in the Iowa caucus he said his black and white family seemed so weird he felt like a normal American. I agreed. My family struck me as weird.

I tried to charm the pants off voters trying to get them to register and vote. I was hoping most of the people I was talking to might vote Democratic. I was told constantly that a low key approach to politics gets more people involved. If you can get them to grin they are more likely to turn out.

Here's my problem. I am gay and have always ben gay. I now listen to politicians say they are afraid of what might happen to young soldiers who have to take showers with gay guys. Apparently many young men believe they will be raped by guys like me. If that is correct, why didn't you tell me in 1968 that gays were unfit to serve in the marines. I seem to remember taking thousands of showers with straight guys. I never once touched a guys ass unless I knew he wanted me to. Why are American politicians free to insult me. Gays have served in every goddamn war in this country's history. But I now hear I am planning to molest all boys. @!$%# all boys. I think they are stupid to talk to. I prefer the company of men my own age.

Like most gay guys I have never supported or believe in gay marriage. I also don't believe that America aborted 50 million unborn children for a good reason. We seem to be killing more children than Hitler in the name of Roe v. Wade. How come I can't vote on abortion. Seems to me my opinion should count at some point. I am tired that Democrats think all gay guys are required to vote for them. If Democrats are pro gay they sure fooled me. Obama didn't support DADT until the lame duck period. My parents were both born In Ireland. Obama came to Ireland looking for his missing apostrophe. He apparently believes all the people born in Ireland are of Celtic heritage. No member of my family has ever had an apostrophe during the last 7 thousand years. The Celts brought apostrophes with them when they invaded from easten Europe around the time of Christ. My family had lived In Ireland for 5000 years by that time. I am of fenian, saxon and scandinavian blood. I do not have a drop of Irish blood. My pagan ancestors used ritualistic cannibalism with people who broke their word. Mr. Obama should try being more truthful.

There are still a few crazy pagans like myself listening to politicians. You learn a few things about politics and politicians if you listen real closely. Most don't give a @!$%# about free will or the existence of God. I on the other hand still believe in God. I think America may come to end in the very near future. All pagan calendars seem to indicate 2012 will be a real big year. Actually, most old calendars say it will be the final year.

I think the future of America will be decided in the next few years. I know that time goes backwards and forwards which is why history repeats itself. America now looks like the end of the Weimar Republic in Germany, Germany teetered on the brink of remaining human beings or turning Nazis. Sadly they chose to become Nazis.

If America could choose, would we become human beings or Nazis. I hope America chooses to stay human but a lot of people sound like Nazis to me. I wish someone would poll that question.

See you later alligators.

Disabled Voter, first I'll state I am an Independent voter. I have written to my reps too. Congressman for my district is a Dem and I've never received a reply, not even a form letter. Senator for my state, a Republican, has answered each one and not in a form letter but with responses to my questions or comments.

What does it mean... "probably nothing."

To MMos-575010. Most Republican teabaggers are sickeningly selfish like Hemann Cain or the Koch brothers, his brothers by another mother.

To BZe1: I am not a teabagger but as a gay man I am very libertarian. I like being gay and hope every guy likes being what they are. On the other hand, if someone attempted to interfere with my right to be gay, I would treat them like a target on the 500 yard line at Parris Island. BRASS I would slowly breathe. I would relax. I would aim. I would site. I would squeeze. Ten out of ten times I put a bullet through a target that was the size of a period on this page..........I am a good rifleman and have retained my skills.

The marines teach men to love other men. The pluck 80 guys from anyplace in America and turn them into a platoon that will kill without pity in defense of each other. It is rather brutal training at Parris Island which is why outsiders are never permitted to film at PI. I would love to see a takeover of America by a bunch of marines. We would institute boot camps for all professions and eliminate money. All marines are taught to be clever thieves and steal equipment from the Navy. Army and Air Force which is why we have the smallest budget but the best reputation as fighters. Many people are not aware that the marines are teaching the ancient fenian honor code. I was taught that same code by my parents and the marines. A man always keeps his oaths. He maintains all secrets as secrets. Marines always despise war and will do just about anything to avoid one. That is why we protect the White House and every American embassy in the world. The code by the way would fill several walls with books. It was invented by my fenian ancestors. As I said sometimes I believe I should charm the pants off you. If that doesn't work, I smile at you and put a bullet through your face. It teaches men the reason why all men should be reasonable. If you are not reasonable we simply kill you. Goodbye. Your dead. File your grievance with God if you got one. I only have to prove to God that i was reasonable in my dealings with you. It works, guys. The marine corps cranks out tens of thousands of guys who have a big grin on our face. We never tell you the secret about how Parris Island operates. Moms and dads simply grin when their son comes homes acting like a man instead of the boy they sent to the Navy. This is a clue, dont tell anyone I told you. I enlisted in a branch of the Navy in June 1968. I JOINED the marines on 1/4/69. All marines know why they joined the marines every one else has a confused look on their face. People seem to think enlisting has something to do with joining the marines.. I enlisted in the Navy to avoid being drafted by the Army. I joined the marines because I hated the entire @!$%#ing military of this country and every other country. From 1/4/69 I only defended other marines the rest of you @!$%#s can defend yourselves but as marines we doubt you have the balls to defend yourselves. Please check our war records. We always have the highest medal counts for bravery. It works. It works.

At this point, I wish the marines would seize the oil fields of Arabia. The 60 to 70 trillion in oil they got could probably reduce our debt. The FED could seize all numbered bank accounts. Banks could organize the biggest contrasettlement in history. The one thing you can't change are facts. Can the world feed itself. Does the planet have enough energy. We would need a lot of unemployed people available to do hard work. Finally, do we have the brains and balls to issue the appropriate orders. I would.

I once saw a picture of Bush 43 walking along hand in hand with his girlfriend, the crown prince of Arabia. I would have blown their sissy heads off the moment I saw them walking hand in hand. The Prince looked like he was wearing a dress from where I was sitting. I doubt seriously if anyone would want to attend the the funerals of the entire Saudi royal family. From where I sit they seem to be financing all the terrorism on the planet. Guys, since I am always supposed to be reasonable I would smile at them and order them to pay off our 14 trillion dollar deficit. If they said yes I would let them live and allow them to drive cabs in New York City. If they said No I would sadly tell them that was not an acceptable answer. OOPS I would kill every member of that family. I bet not one guy in America would even get pissed me with me. Think about it. Would you really get angry or does the thought of dead Saudis cheer you up. I tell everyone pagans have a cheerful cure for just about everything,

I don't care if you're impressed. The right said they are Socialists now you say Communists. They are neither. They are Americans. They have had enough of the Good Ol Boy 1% Club

I don't think anyone is looking to institute communism in this country. A rather extreme statement, don't you think? We do, however, have to address the fact that our politicians work for the guy with the deepest pockets and not us. Do you really think that signing contracts with Grover Norquist is the way this country should be run?

I wonder how many have spoken with our PRESIDENT?

Funny how he is enjoying his WEEKS of vacation in Hawaii, as so many are wondering how to feed their families and keep their homes today......

I bet if they ponnied up the $35K per plate to attend one of Obama's campaign dinners, he might listen.................

The article only lists Republican politicians, odd how the economy was just as bad when DEMOCRATS took total control in 08'.

Now the DEMOCRATS still control 2/3 rds yet these IDIOTS still plcae balme on the Republicans. Only a complete MORON would blame the MINORITY for the MAJORITIES incompetence!

MWD4LIFE: Now the DEMOCRATS still control 2/3 rds yet these IDIOTS still plcae balme on the Republicans. Only a complete MORON would blame the MINORITY for the MAJORITIES incompetence!

I been following the whole Republican show while you been at Fox. The Democrats do not have a Filibuster Proof Majority. Every attempt to create jobs and improve the economy has been Filibustered by the Republicans to stop it.

Oh, please. Look up the GOPs filibuster record and get back to me.

Please explain why there are over 15 House passed "jobs bills" that the Democratically run Senate refuses to bring to the floor?

How about why NOTHING more than "health care reform" and regulations were passed in Obama's first two years, when he had a SUPER MAJORITY? NOT A SINGLE JOBS BILL WAS CREATED IN THAT TIME, NOT ONE!

P.S. I don't watch FOX news, don't have money to waste on cable T.V...............

@ MWD - You're right. the economy was just as bad when the Dem's took control in "08", and just like now, it's after the Reps. drove the country into the ground. Rich get Richer...............F that!

MWD, please find something else to post. You have been posting this for quite a while. Whoever gave you this talking point need to update you a little.

I don't know if I would agree with everything written by MWD, but there are a few salient points those of you who dismiss MWD ought to consider. Answer if possible, please.

Are there more than a dozen "jobs" bills passed by the House and refused by Harry Reid to be brought up for debate, let alone a vote, in the Senate? This is either factually true or not. It could be you would argue the bills are phoney, and that might be a fair point. Except that if they are phoney then bringing them up would highlight this fact and should, one would fairly think, help the democrats.

President Obama and Congressional Democrats passed the "stimulus" act for the purpose of getting our economy back on track. Or so they said. Has the outcome of that act been as President Obama claimed--that we'd have no more than 8% unemployment ever and that we'd have, today, just 6%? Second, since the act was meant to save and/or create jobs, has it worked? That is, have we had a net increase in employment? This is another factual question that should be simple to answer.

And one more, if you don't mind. The total cost of the stimulus has yet to be calculated, but we are well past $600 bn being spent. Forget the fuzzy accounting on how many jobs are created/saved, but assume (this takes little to see why) that Mr. Obama would want to count every possible job the act did save and/or create, and tell me if you think the cost per job of something around $250- to $300 k is worthwhile?

I could go on, like asking if you think a job paying below the national average (this is what the jobs supposedly saved and/or created pay) will ever result in enough revenue being returned to the government to repay the indebtedness we've incurred to "create" it, but this might be just a little more than most of you can mathematically handle.

Today it is easier to sleep in the Capital or in tents on the street, than it is to find work and afford your underwater house payment.....

I guess the "Messiah" is too busy campaigning, or vacationing to focus on real issues such as the never ending recession, GROWING unemployment problem, and inflation..........

MWD...I guess you are not a conservative Republican as you spoke that the "Messiah" is too busy campaiging" I don't know what religion you might be but it is not Christian since Jesus is the Messiah.

Why shouldn't President Obama be outside of the WH, everything he suggests and have suggested gets knocked to the floor along with the 99%.

I would love to go to Washington DC and stay in Eric's, Mitch's and John's offices. I wouldn't mess them up, because we the 99% would have to fix them up.

We do not need to revolt, What we need to do is to protect Our Constitution, Our government, Our way of life from the domestic enemies within the three branches of our government. It is time to take back and protect our country from the Domestic Enemies within it.

The Constitution was formed, among other purposes, to make the People's liberties secure - secure not only against foreign attack but from oppression by the American People’s own government. Our forefathers set specific limits upon the national government and upon the States, and reserved to the People all powers that they did not grant. The Ninth Amendment declares: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

The first law statute of the United States of America, enacted in the first session of the First Congress on 1 June 1789, was Statute 1, Chapter 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution.

The wording of the Presidential Oath was already established in the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 10. The requirement for all other Federal and State Civil officers to give their solemn and binding Oath is established in Article VI, Section 1, Clause 4. They are BOUND by their Oath to support the Constitution, and should they abrogate their Oath by their acts or inaction, are subject to charges of impeachment and censure. Hence the need for Statue 1 to define the administration of the Oath.

The three branches of our government, the Military, all Law Enforcement, all Heads of the States, all federal employees are required to take an Oath to support and defend the Constitution and not an individual leader, ruler, office, or entity. Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge.

"Domestic enemies pursue legislation, programs against the powers of the US Constitution. They work on destroying and weakening the Rights of the People guaranteed by the Constitution. Plus they create laws, amendments, etc that goes against the restraint on the three branches of our government by the Constitution. They are also those who support those in action, or by inaction; vote, voice, money, etc who are going against or trying to weaken the US Constitution and the Peoples written guarantee of those Rights.

Knine does it again.Great Post!

Yes Knine, but a revolution is more entertaining.

Doesn't matter if you vote if you only get to choose between two crappy candidates. It's our primary system that's to blame for that. Term limits will go a long way towards keeping politicians working for us and not the lobbyists that allow them to make a career out of Washington. It's easier to do the right thing when you have nothing to lose by it.

AG, not registering will let them put in whoever they want. What you, me, and the rest of the American people need to do is hold the current (and previous) administration accountable.

If we arrest them, hold them while we replace the judicial branch, then prosecute a VERY CLEAR MESSAGE will be sent to the replacements in each of the branches (That they serve America, and better work for the betterment of America and its people, as we are watching what they do very closely).

If you ask how, I can re post it, or you can look for my posts here.

The three branches of our government, the Military, all Law Enforcement, all Heads of the States, all federal employees are required to take an Oath to support and defend the Constitution and NOT an individual leader, ruler, office, or entity.

Domestic enemies pursue legislation, programs against the powers of the US Constitution. They work on destroying and weakening the Rights of the People guaranteed by the Constitution. Plus they create laws, amendments, etc that goes against the restraint on the three branches of our government by the Constitution

(Those are hints) Remember the Oaths taken are for life.

Jeff-803009,

You are absolutely correct. Eric Cantor and John Boener haven't taken a proper shower in decades. Their armpits smell of special interest and corrupt money from Insurance companies and bankers.

Burn you bunch of smelly, pathetic republican turd-balls. BURN!!!!!!

Not only that, Jeff, but they are also illegally occupying the three branches of our government. I am pretty sure that means that anything they do while occupying our government (bills, amendments, agreements with the UN/foreign nations/etc, etc) are also not valid or legal.

It is way past time American citizens fire them, have them escorted out of office, arrested, held for prosecution. I also recommend that the ones who went actively against the US Constitution be prosecuted, while the ones that were passively letting it happen lose citizenship, and not be allowed back into the USA ever again, alive or dead. My idea for the ones that went actively against the US Constitution and Americans also lose their US citizenship, and be kicked out of the USA after serving whatever term in prison they get. But also, we freeze their ill-gotten assets, seize them and put them into the US Treasury.

The asset freezing and seizing also applies to the Federal Reserve (privately owned) that was illegally put into place by domestic enemies (in congress at the time) when our US Constitution distinctly says exactly who handles our funds.

Domestic enemies pursue legislation, programs against the powers of the US Constitution. They work on destroying and weakening the Rights of the People guaranteed by the Constitution. Plus they create laws, amendments, etc that goes against the restraint on the three branches of our government by the Constitution.

All Mahatma Gandhi did in India was sit passively with thousands of his followers in non-violent protest, and he succeeded in taking back a subcontinent from the powerful British Empire. So don't be so fast to dismiss the power of people in huge numbers sitting in peaceful protest.

And how many years did that take for anything to change?

America doesn't have that kind of time like Gandhi did to wait. Change is needed now. Enough is enough.

When diplomacy fails, the only solution left is violence. Violence creates results, and immediate ones at that. Pain and suffering are the only things that animals understand, and this includes these douchebags in Congress. They deserve what's coming to them.

Mike Osborne-4622702

And how many years did that take for anything to change?

America doesn't have that kind of time like Gandhi did to wait. Change is needed now. Enough is enough.

When diplomacy fails, the only solution left is violence. Violence creates results, and immediate ones at that. Pain and suffering are the only things that animals understand, and this includes these douchebags in Congress. They deserve what's coming to them.

Go Google the whiskey rebellion and get back to me. Clown.

Osborne, stop drinking so much Red Bull. There are more options than diplomacy & violence. Have you heard of VOTING? Also, protesting isn't diplomacy, it's ADVERTISING, like people who yell "Fire!" so that those sleeping in their houses will wake up and join in putting the fire out.

Violence will achieve nothing because the 1% have us completely outgunned. They're already passing laws that deem protesters as domestic terrorists.

Mike Osbourne, we have the right (actually the duty) to defend our US Constitution, our country, our guaranteed Rights from the domestic enemies within the three branches of our government.

We can replace them any day, we do NOT have to wait for elections. Actually we should have replaced them long ago.

They can be arrested and prosecuted, and should be.

We do not need to vote them out. When they did not keep the Oath, they made themselves no longer meeting the requirements of the office/position they are currently occupying.

The real problem is that we need to find replacements for 100 hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equaling 545 replacements and fast.

This is not a party problem. This is a domestic enemy problem, with them working against us from inside of our government.

If we prosecute the old ones who actively went against the US Constitution and against the Oath they took, the replacements will not repeat their mistakes. The party they are from will not matter because they will all actively work for the good of the USA and her People, and that will be the big difference.

clwyd I like how you say the do nothing republicans. I remember when the dems had a super majority in the senate and the house and couldn't even pass a budget. Now that is what I call do nothing. The republicans in the house have passed 22 bills to create Jobs and the Senate even refuses to bring them to the floor. Now that is what I call a do nothing house. Oh and by the way I am a dem but refuse to believe everything I am told so I do my research and find out who is telling most of the Truth.

Don't forget Sen. Harry Reid. You know, the demo majority leader that so far has refused to bring those 16 jobs bills passed by the House and sent to the Senate, up for a vote.

joejoe1945clwyd I like how you say the do nothing republicans. I remember when the dems had a super majority in the senate and the house and couldn't even pass a budget. Now that is what I call do nothing. The republicans in the house have passed 22 bills to create Jobs and the Senate even refuses to bring them to the floor.

By having a bunch of tea bagger rejects and "conservative" mental midgets slap a bill together doesnt equate to jobs bills. Yeah yeah we get it - no corporate taxes and this country as a capitalistic wasteland. We get it.

Mike I have a question? If the bills are so bad then why doesn't Ried let them come up for a vote then when they fail then they can go back and get a compromise worked out. That is the way it is supposed to work you know.

WE do NOT have to vote them out. That is doing business as usual. They made themselves no longer able to stay in the current positions they are occupying when they did NOT keep the Oath as required.

Understand? They are arrestable. We can jail them until we replace the judicial branch, then have them prosecuted. They are illegally occupying positions they no longer should be in, if Our US Constitution is the highest law of this land still.

Bingo!

Bill

When we replace the current domestic enemies within the three branches of our government; have them addressed, held, then we prosecute them when we replace the judicial branch domestic enemies.

If enough American citizens want this, we can do it today. Then we can tell their replacements what the American people want. Want to bet they will do it? Nothing like watching your predecessor go to jail to get some incentive ... /big grin

Gorilla, you are hilariously stupid. You really think that all they want are tax breaks for the rich? Stupid man. Wake up. Both the left and right want the same thing but have different economic ways of accomplishing it. Plain and simple. Even President Kennedy admitted and pissed off his own party when he lowered taxes across the board.

If all the left can do is tax to pay for their horrible management and spending then there will be a time when business MOVES!!!! Tax breaks to the middle class and low income (who typically pay little to nothing) will not get this country back to normal. Tax breaks across the board, accompanied by spending cuts across the board ... ACROSS THE BOARD. All areas of the government and public sector are FAT !!!!! No one should be exempt.

Greg-1238180Gorilla, you are hilariously stupid. You really think that all they want are tax breaks for the rich? Stupid man. Wake up. Both the left and right want the same thing

Here's a quiz - which political group wants to tax millionares and which group wants to starve the beast? For a person who throws around insults calling people stupid - you are quite the clown yourself.

Greg, Why don't we start with the foreign aid we give yearly to 150 foreign nations, many of whom hate us, some of whom use that money to fund terrorists/etc against us (and yes, "our" government knows this goes on with the money we given them). I took 6 months and tracked 25 nations receiving foreign aid funding. $2.5 + Trillion a year to just 25 out of 150.

That would be a great start on rebuilding OUR own Country.

Then there is corporate welfare given to megacorporations with billions a year in profit, plus based outside of the USA. ($1.3 Trillion) a year. Not billions, a Trillion plus. (Don't look just at the "foreign aid' they post, go search, it takes time and is a real pain) This does not include economic aid, nor does it include military aid we also send foreign nations yearly.

Yet, the cuts are always to American citizens. Domestic Enemies within our nation are the problem, "We the People..." are the solution. It is time to Fire them, Arrest them, Prosecute them.

Actually a lot of the foreclosures were found to be illegal; but nothing is being done about it because a lot of those people lost everything and instead of "our" government standing for the people they and the law enforcement agencies are assisting and covering up for their illegal activities.

Check out the 60 minutes expose on it, 1 and 2.

isnt GM one of the big Corporation that belongs to the so called 1%? funny you should pick that name.

The 99% do not have the Koch brothers busing them in to protest. The Tea Party got a free ride from the 1% Koch brothers.

muglitt

Muglitt? Seriously? Sounds like the name of your pet or something. Worse yet, sound like a code name for an online pedophile.

Why do you defend the lobbyists and filthy rich bankers? They don't need your help at all. But you defend them, like a mindless tin soldier. . . . . . Oh, I know why. Because you don't think for yourself and are told what to think. That's it.

You may as well go buy some lube and apply it to your anus. Because that's what your masters are doing to you. You think those corporations really care about you. Do you think a single one of them will help you with your medical bills when you need help? Nope. But you don't care because you don't think.

Bill . I am not defending anyone and I am far from mindless. it is the sign of a weak mind that turns to name calling.

and I have No masters, and you are foolish to assume you know anything about me at all I dont need them to pay my medical bill I am not looking for a free ride I work for what I get. something that a lot of people dont want to do anymore.

i never said a word about lobbyists or the rich, now did I? you seem to want to put words into other peoples mouths. at show signs of a one track mind.

i dont see you coming up with any answers on how to fix anything, or do you think everyone should have a free ride in this country? everyone should get the same amount of pay be they a cook at BK to the President of the US ? tell us what you think is fair instead of mindless name calling lets here how would would fix things.

Because the People do pay for their criminal activity when caught, but Wallstreet was caught and has not. There is so much evidence against them and those who were supposed to be prosecuting them are instead ignoring it until the time limits run out and nothing can be done.

Can you say "Domestic Enemy of the USA"? Because not keeping the Oath they were required to take and keep when they took the office or position they currently occupy made them no longer meeting the requirements, and WE the People were supposed to have replaced them as soon as we discovered it.

But most people do not know or realize this. Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge. If they renounce/etc it then they are no longer able to be in those positions; and not keeping it makes them not being able to be in/stay in those positions, understand? If you read 7.1 you will understand.

If the OWS WOULD PUT A association together, and have a plan that would buy homes or apartments, and or other business, I would donate to it, if 30 or 50 million Americans would donate they could buy thousands of homes and apartments in a short time, and pay cash for them and rent them for a couple of hundred a month with an option to buy, for three hundred per month when they could be able to put down one thousand dollars with around 1% or 2% interest , the ows would take in millions per month, to invest in more business or homes, if they bought and payed cash and could own one million homes, and apartments, they would generate twenty or thirty million dollars per month, and the sky would be the limit!!!

muglitt,

No problem.

First, federally funded elections. Have the FCC mandate the running of election commercials from candidates if they with to continue to be broadcasters. Those airwaves already belong to the American People and those broadcasters lease that bandwidth for the betterment of our communities.

Second, campaign finance reform.

Third, take "person status" away from corps.

Forth, Ban money from corps, PAC's, churches, unions or any group to influence an election in any way and only allow individual contributions directly to a candidate and limit that amount per person.

Fifth: Ban any corp or group from advertising for or against a cause or candidate unless they state in the advertisement exactly where that money comes from, who it comes from by that persons name. Koch's or Soros' included.

Sixth: Make lobbyists illegal. Period.

Seventh: Make a person getting 10% or more of the public votes receive federal funding for their campaign.

Eighth: If a church enters into an election for any candidate or cause, for or against, they loose their exempt status, . . permanently.

Ninth, if a union or corp enters for or against any election issue or candidate for any reason, their corporate or union status get's stripped, . . permanently and the officers are banned from forming a new corp our union, . . . permanently.

THAT is how you get the money out of politics.

Yeah, Bill !! Now that should be on a billboard!

Right now, we got the best government money can buy.

Well Muglitt? Your turn.

Congressman Ted Deutch drafted a constitutional amendment to:

1) End corporate personhood and declare that Constitutionally protected rights extend SOLELY to natural persons.
2) Ensure corporations are never above the law.
3) Stop private entities from financing elections or measures.
4) Regulate ALL election spending by Congress and the States.

Please support this amendment by signing the petition at theoccupiedamendment. This petition is also listed at Whitehouse dot Gov under the title "Support Rep. Ted Deutch's Occupied Amendment in order to end corporate personhood and restore civil rights."

Keith1776

I like that plan.

Thanks Bill. The best thing we (the 99%) can do to take back America from the 1% is vote, but in the 13 months until then we can:

• support petitions, bills or politicians trying to remove corruption,
• transfer our money from big banks to local union banks
• buy Made in America
• register to vote and encourage anyone who isn't registered
• help the99delegation prepare the July 4, 2012 OWS National General Assembly

Hey, LA City Council just voted unanimously to support Move to Amend's amendment to the Constitution! Finally real political support for OWS.
Search: "Move to Amend LA Press Conference Following Historic Vote"

Please post Deutch's & MoveToAmend's proposed amendments everywhere we can.

muglitt, it is not about corporations. It is about domestic enemies within the three branches of "our" government working to destroy America, destroy our Freedom and Constitution.

Remember the USA is a land of abundant resources the world would love to use without having to keep our water clean enough to drink, air breathable, soil able to grow healthy plants and graze healthy animals, workers who get to stay healthy/not get poisoned/crippled/killed/etc which raises the costs and cuts heavily into the profits.

Think about the supercommittee being brazen enough to take money this year from foreign nations knowing that we were watching them closely. What do you think goes on behind closed doors with the rest of them?

What about the attacks on our written Constitutionally guaranteed Rights? Why do you think that is? Not for OUR safety, that is what the Rights are for.

These are small examples of domestic enemies within our government at work. It all comes down to 100 hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million that are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country today. Understand that those 545 people exercise the complete power of the United States federal government, and that what we have today is what they wanted us to have.

Few jobs, huge increase in homeless, etc - this means people who are so busy trying to stay alive they will not stop the domestic enemies within our government.