Really? You don't think that a bag of milk powder, sent reeling from a broken, probably overused, rusty shipping container container, soaked in seawater (which has a high microbial count, which is why it's biologically 'healthy', but can become dangerous to humans), soaked in thousands of gallons of oil, diesel, lubricants, hydraulic fluids, plus probably some other items the vessel was carrying, like fertilizer, industrial chemicals, electronics manufacturing raw materials (very high instances of heavy metals, that will kill you).

Nope, seems perfectly safe to me. Then again, milk powder is very expensive, and certainly, everyone can actually use a 50lb bag of milk powder, right?

Why does it seem that people can't apply a little logic to their thoughts before they make them anymore? Reading comments from people on various stories is really starting to depress me.

Attack! LOL

Monday morning ... think I will finish my first cup-o-jo before reading any more ... LOL Geez

I would think that as look as the bag had no leaks, the powdered milk inside should be fine...

Wow, I wonder what's in the rest of those containers? How far off the coast is that ship? Is it abandoned? What do international salvage rights laws say about a situation like this? Will be interesting to see the outcome of this.

Reading comments from people on various stories is really starting to depress me.

Brian, start with Prozac or Zoloft!

From what i understand its powered milk. So it should be easy to see if hte powder got wet. If it didnt then why would it not be fine. Brian, it seems you look like the one who should use some logic.

That ship is rusted all the way and thats why it split in half not from anything else look at it closely

Brian, ever hear of a word called sarcasm? Look it up, when you understand it, it might help your depression.

Brian, Dude, you need to get back on your meds, man...it's called sarcasm....

sharp observation there Heather.

D'Oh Gilligan!

Oh, stop crying over spilt milk!

"...soaked in thousands of gallons of oil, diesel, lubricants, hydraulic fluids, plus probably some other items the vessel was carrying, like fertilizer, industrial chemicals, electronics manufacturing raw materials (very high instances of heavy metals, that will kill you)... Why does it seem that people can't apply a little logic to their thoughts before they make them anymore?"

Speaking from my 32 years as an engineer in the marine insurance industry, I would suggest you reserve your assumptions, Brian. Your logic is fundamentally flawed, and sounds rather environmentally motivated to me.

I would not hesitate to get my hands on a bag or two as I would be helping to clear the beach.. When you are low income or no income like me it would be an unexpected gift.. People in the US buy salvage goods all the time..

Wonder how many people are chopping lines of it right now.

That ship is rusted all the way and thats why it split in half not from anything else look at it closely

If you were referring to the red color of the metal, I hate to break this to you, but that's not rust. You might want to actually do a little research regarding maritime cargo vessels sometime. Many cargo vessels have red hulls below the waterline. That is paint, not rust.

Look closely at the hull line, where it changes from black to red. It's far too straight a line to be rust. Rust does not look like that. Not to mention the fact that rust is more orange in color than the ship's hull is. Same with all of the red metal decking. Again, that is paint, not rust.

Thanks for the laugh though. One of the funniest things I've read all day.

@wizard of "wisdom", pretty sure what ur talkin about and what others are talkin about are completely different. If u look at the ship, where it broke, you will see the rust. Not the waterline. The broken part. Not the decking. Where the ship cracked in half. All that orange-y lookin, rust-like stuff is rust. From the saltwater and the broken, unpainted metal.

I'm no engineer so it is very possible I am wrong, but is it possible the discoloration where your seeing rust might just be the bending of the metal? I just don't know how there would be a ring of rust around the whole boat?

Its really simple...

The broken area of the ship had no paint or other coatings on it and as soon as unprotected bare steel or iron meets salt water it start rusting.

Within an hour you will see orange rust appearing...

Yup, thats what it is....

hard to believe the power of the ocean waves...to rip steel

They should have constructed the ship out of milk powder bags. Indestructible.

Don't let Brian_W see that, he might give another dissretation about who knows what. My eyes started twitching, so I stopped reading his rant.

I don't see why this has not been salvaged and cleared yet..

My cat just fainted.

My dog just farted! Lactose Intolerant!

I think that the people getting the bags of milk should be thanked for getting the plastic out of the ocean. I don't know what the spilled milk is going to do to the sea creatures.

And I am shocked--shocked!--that it would seem that there's no use diving over spilled milk.

Oh... ElkMeadow. That was so bad. :-) You really went there ::::groan::::

And I am shocked--shocked!--that it would seem that there's no use diving over spilled milk.

You, Sir or Ma'am, are mental! Keep up the good work. Don't tell Brian (post 1.1) you said that, he'll get pissed.

Did Every body get off safe such as the CREW. RONNIE

Capin' Crunch is quite the backstabbing tyrant.

good one Brian. Cocoa-Puffs were on the way but those birds finally went totally bananas, got off course.

I just hope it was Skim or 2% Milk, dont want all that sea life to toss their new years resolution diets.

Captain Crunch?

@Believer-1993650

It surprised me too, at first. Glance at the cereal box next time you see it, is says Cap'n Crunch. (I just noticed spelled it wrong too...oops...)

Sung to the tune of the Edmond Fitzgerald:

"The legend lives on from the Holstein on down to the big Jersey cow they call Elsie............."

(Sorry Gordon!)

Jeff P-14

Capin' Crunch is quite the backstabbing tyrant.

A cereal killer?

Realitycheck - That was classic. That was a good song too. Peace.

Cute!

my mom said a few things too, but she never did see the irony in calling me a little son of a b!$*h either...lol

Granpa always told me I was 'no good for bacon'

hahaha, maybe we should check with Pablo Escobar! lol

Pretty sure he's dead, Chadillac.

Peridot-1693859

Pretty sure he's dead, Chadillac.

Just like your responses!

actually milk is a worse pollutant then petroleum products. To a large extend diesel will disperse and evaporate, and for its time in the water floats. So it tends not to effect a lot of wildlife. Milk is mixed in with the water where it begins to biodegrade. This would seem to be a good thing, except its such a good food source that the bacteria and algae go nuts. This depletes the water of oxygen and kills everything. Now in an active wave area like that the effects will be less, but certain pockets of the reef could be badly hit depending how much powder spills.

And david b- actually put up an intelligent post. The milk could be much more problematic than the oil. As for the Cap'n Crunch and cereal comments... at least I got a laugh for the day.

Apparently you did not pay much attention to what the Gulf oil spill put in the oceans. Oil or diesel, it will disperse poisons that affect the food chain and remain in the ecosystem for a long time and the effects are dispersed throughout the water column. At least the milk was contained in bags and floated ashore and will be a far less problem than the oil. No problem unless authorities drag their butts cleaning it up. The ship and any steel left on board will make a nice addition to some artificial reef.

Apparently milk doesn't do a body (of water) much good.

Apparently milk doesn't do a body (of water) much good.

I wonder if the whales are playing with the "milk ring" off the top of the container?

With all that milk out there researchers won't be able to identify the Sperm whale from the Humpback whale!

It's a little known fact that when the pilgrims landed in America, that the Indians stood on the shore and warned them that they were in fact wading, and boating through whale semen. The pilgrims took their gestures as acceptance and the term "WELCOME", was born.

Sirlafalot,

Now that's a load !!! LOL

That "Semenly" makes sense!

"It is a little known fact that in early naval days, that the seamen actually coined the three terms, "pre-load", "load", and "wad". Luckily they had "bounty" on board, and were able to use it as a "quicker picker upper".

I thought that when they loaded their Torpedos and launched their load it was into air tight chambers!

choch......

Thats pre-loaded their wad and shot their load.

Chumming for catfish?

If I recall correct, it was another bad storm that pushed the vessel off course and crashed it into the reef, despite the efforts of the crew.

As for why it's been sitting there so long:

They could not safely drag it off the reef until the existing hull breach could be repaired. Heck for that matter, even if they fixed the initial breach, there was a high probability dragging it off the reef would cause a new breach of the hull. It would have sunk before they could get it a safe distance away.

They couldn't get a crane vessel close enough to it to unload the cargo, because of the high risk of the 2nd vessel running aground in the process.

They only had a few choices: Repair it a to make it sea-worthy enough to drag it off, find a way to float/lift it off the reef, or unload the cargo by hand. All such options are very time-consuming to implement.

other 99,

Texting ??

It's easy when you plan on selling your rust bucket to your insurance company!

Exxon/Valdez School of Piloting

@Azlan, how do you do that near a reef? obviously it dangerous. On ship is already stuck. All the cargo containers are sitting at a dangerous angle. You want to risk peoples lives and the possible grounding of another ship? Then what do you do? Send out more ships?

Azlan Lewis, how can you possibly blame NZ for polluting your food source what do you eat from NZ, do you even know where it is? A Switzerland operated vessel hits a very well documented reef and spills oil and debris all over pristine NZ beaches and you blame NZ, you are an idiot

canobigbullcrappola...more likely

I'd believe you more if it was the bible, but not the quran.

Farthead your idiot raghead go back to where you came from

Dawg3911

Farthead your idiot raghead go back to where you came from

Why should Fartheads idot go back? what did he do?

I wasted 2 seconds reading your post!

...and an hour writing your response?

Yeah, about an hour Peri! I kept thinking "What would Peri write, what would Peri write"?

The answer was always the same ! "Nothing" So I finally wrote my response! Yours would have been as useless as your first post!

Awww, Come ON guys, be nice.