Geez people. Can't we all just agree that this place is a blessing for many people and not bring politics or other childish comments into the conversation. Definitely a lot of people with some deep issues to address.

Usually starts with the left...if you notice DP-CA.

How about you tell your liberal friends to hold the fathers to these children responsible to the taxpayers for their childrens(SIC) upkeep. In addition a course on birth control would be good also.

Person-hood begins at conception. You want them to be baby killers?

Besides, we need them for school janitors!

Jay the Jerk chiming in with a political rant. Tell you what, Jay, a concept for you to absorb: COMMUNITY taking care of their own, instead of big brother.

I know, your mind is blown. It's not a tax and spend solution, it might take a while to grasp the concept.

We'll wait for you.

bad choices lead to bad consequenses. lets all be codependents.

Heaven forbid there be a comment that isn't political Jay! Ugn. There are just as many cold-hearted republicans as there are democrats.

I'm glad they are able to get out of the streets, and maybe some help to find work or someplace to reside on their own.

All the while, bank executives that seized their homes are enjoying being mega-billionaires.

In most of these cases, paternity is suspect. It's been estimated that paternity fraud is 1 in 11 children across the nation and 1 in 3 in lower socioeconomic groups are calling the wrong man daddy. I don't blame any man for leaving a women and *her* children when he was fooled and enslaved into raising children that are not really his own.

Vincent Denali

Spineless woman basher, we meet again.

and if a father makes only the minimum wage or just above, how do you espect them, to pay?

I heard that! If he can only pay $1 a week or $1 per month per child, than that's what he pays. There's no excuse for not providing for your children! Both he and the mother made this child/these children together and It was their choice to have them. I do agree with the other posts which talk about being responsible and not having a family unless you're somewhat financially stable. Women especially need to get a bit of self-esteem and stop seeing their lives as only being complete if they have a man in it. Women also need to put the same energy that many of them put into selecting a pair of shoes, into selecting a man! Having a child isn't going to make somebody love you or stay with you and both mom and dad are responsible for their care, regardless of whether or not dad is only making minimum wage. If he doesn't pay his share of support then all of us, the taxpayers, end up doing it. I can recall all too many situations where dad left one family found somebody else and made another family with the new lady! Talk about insanity.

Peace.

Sounds like the father split after she was pregnant, possibly after she gave birth.

I tend to agree with Stacia--unless you're absolutely sure you have a stable relationship and can afford it, I feel little compassion for people who keep on having kids. And why doesn't this woman, Doreen, go back to her native country? I would think that chances of getting back on her feet and having access to good social services are greater there for someone in her position. Also, why aren't these dads forced to contribute?

Odds have it is that this woman from Germany was once probably involved with a so called "German Bride" company that set her up with a weird man from the United States who could not find a woman in his own backyard and looked abroad. 8 of 10 times they never work out and many times these women are left in a country they know nothing about with no way to get back to where they came from, so they are forced to seek out help through a church which then connects them with a charity such as this. She is very fortunate to be in such a place.

SusieOh you still don't get it do you.

DP-CA wrote "Odds have it is that this woman from Germany was once probably involved with a so called "German Bride" company that set her up with a weird man from the United States who could not find a woman in his own backyard "

More American men are looking to other countries for women from cultures that support long-term marriage. The odds are also greater of finding a woman that doesn't look like she is perennially pregnant.

With 50% of US marriages ending in divorce and 70% of women filing, what man would be interested in American women for marriage?

Oh yeah Wheels? I hear Obama has a fine part time career in the food service industry lined up for today's youth, at the soup kitchens he's looking to open if he gets a second term.

Try to keep politics out of a good story about community service and people helping people.

It's not always the fathers who "walk." My ex found out she was pregnant, and kicked me out of her life. A year later, the courts came after me for a child I didn't know I had.

Each case, Raincheck, bears individual scrutiny, because many women are gaming the system. The women who are, in turn, need to be scrutinized, as well, to make sure that they're NOT gaming the system. (Though, most states are pro-women's rights and men simply get the right to stfu and pay through the nose.. Ask me how I know, I dare ya.)

raincheck wrote "I grew up in a fatherless home 40 years ago. When will we make these guys pay?."

Many children are told their fathers left when :

1) there was no secure relationship - the man was never really there

2) mothers concealed pregnancy and birth

3) mothers are unable to name the biological father

Instead, the attention should be turned to irresponsible mothers for whom nothing will stop them from having a baby.

Gee, Vincent, I didn't realize i just fell of the turnip truck..oh wait..I didn't.

1) Wrong. Not only in my case but as in many others, my parents were married for about 10 years, there are long term relationships in most cases.

2) Wrong and by the way, WTF? a woman would conceal a pregnancy and birth (good luck with that) in order to...get support for the kid that's "not there"?!

3) This is true in some cases, no where near a majority. Makes me wonder where you're going here, but..

Ah ha! there it is! It is not the men's fault for walking out on responsibility, it is those damn loose woman baby making machines ( which, surprisingly must function with only one party involved).

Ah Vincent, this is interesting of you, any experience walking out yourself?

raincheck - Why can't the sperm donor provide support for his family? Is it really fair for me to support my family and another family because the father walked out?

raincheck, They don't need birth control they need to have their tubes tied.

Something. Birth control, tubes tied.

Joyce, the father/sperm donor should TOTALLY have to support these families. This is why I can't understand why we are no further along with this BS than when I grew up.

This "German woman" is the mother of at least one American citizen, and I assume that her other kids are citizens, too....and the story notes only that she is originally from Germany. I expect that she has a green card or she may even have obtained citizenship, neither of which gets rescinded because of poverty.

Let Germany and Mexico take care of their own citizens. The United States can no longer feed the world and cure all the world's problems.

What does church have to do with it? You don't need to go to church to know right from wrong. My kids didn't and they darn well know right from wrong. They are also generous and caring people who could be an example for many church-goers I have known throughout the years. All you have to do is look at those so-called religious right politicians who would abandon the sick, old and poor and those who through circumstances often beyond their control need a leg up. I'm sure they all sit in the front pew on Sundays. Somehow, I don't see that all this religious fervor has done this country much good.

Oh Susi-Oh you missed the whole point which is typical. I will try to explain it as if you're a five year old. People don't necessarily know the difference I am glad your kids did and sis boom bah and rooty toot toot to them but people have to start somewhere and they may as well start where it's common for someone to un derstand what they are going through so that if they come in contact with it they are aware that it takes more than just a hi how areyou situation that they can't get out of.

OH Judd - Sounds like you can't take Susi's point because you're too sheepish to listen to anything other than the church. Point being - it does not matter where the message of right vs wrong comes from. It could be church, parents, neighbors, schools - dare I say 'community'. What matters is that the message is taught and heard.

I have to agree with you. I am sick of the taxpayers having to foot the bill for irresponsible parents. And so many of this type have more than one kid! Okay, if you are young and really stupid, but to not learn from your first mistake....

They don't learn from their first mistake because there is no penalty for making the same mistake over and over. 72% of minority children are being raised in a single parent home. Welfare Queens, Aunts, Sisters , Cousins and Mothers all look out for each other and know how to play the system for all it is worth.

Approximately 46 million people rely on food stamps. Outrageous, and where do you think the money comes from? It is seized in the form of taxes from middle class citizens. I have a hard enough time supporting my family and I can no longer work hard to support your family and all the illegal criminal aliens.

Let's not forget that no birth control is 100% effective (and don't give me that abstinence-only crap. That doesn't even work for the evangelicals.)

Quinn - If you think abstinence doesn't work then don't you dare come to me to support the babies that you supplied the sperm for. One way or the other the only way to have sex is in a responsible manner. If you don't then the consequences are yours, not mine.

Joyce, I can't supply sperm for anyone...I am not a man.

Abstinence is not BC - it's a behavioral avoidance of a healthy and common human behavior. Also, it's pretty anti-marriage to expect me to not have sex with my husband.

Buffale51 and I'm the other side of the coin. My husband left and has managed to remain pretty well hidden for the past 12 years (To be honest, I stopped looking about 10 years ago. I simply couldn't afford the investigator and the lawyer.)

You should try to reach out to your kids. I warn all mothers and fathers that children eventually grow up. When you see them, don't talk badly about their mother. That will just put them on the defensive. Build the relationship first and eventually they will see that you are not the person their mother claimed. Slowly they'll come to doubt her and if they ask, try to be unemotional, but explain things from your side. Your ex sounds controlling. I would bet that the kids are just scared to trust too much because they are afraid of her anger. So, keep the relationship on the QT until they are ready.

Women steal the kids, the house and raid the bank account.

Buffale51

Yes. PAS is real. While it is true that each case of divorce or custody of children is unique, you are correct about PAS. Much attention has been in the direction of blame and fear of abuse, where it is real you have a whole different kettle of fish and there are many cases where child protective services is absolutely necessary as in drug use or domestic violence, but we are talking about a parent not approved of by an extended family of one of the parents who is actually ostracized and even lied about, perhaps even threatened.

It happens too often. It is a terrible tragedy when one side of a family pits a parent against another or disowns both and possesses the children, or wherever there is a condemnation and total disrespect of a non-custodial parent who is absent. There are exaggerations and one sided stories ongoing for years, unknown to the absent parent so if and when there should be a reunion in adulthood, there can be some intense misunderstandings and a need to reality check some past history suddenly. It can freak people right out when they find themselves being treated badly or dissed by their own child for an untrue reason, never having had the ability to defend themselves and never even knowing. So why are some parents, both men and women out of touch? Mostly due to the pressure from the other adults in the situation and money. Many years can go by and people remarry also, they move far away and life goes on. Time is the big taker, if too much goes by it is not always easy or possible to recover a close relationship with one's child, especially with a lack of communication, understanding, or encouragement by allied, forgiving or supportive relatives. Much therapy and fair mediation is needed; and what poor mother or father can afford that?

For the child? This loss can be truly tragic if a child ends up wondering what his or her mother or father or both were like over all those years and separation, when they were alive never able to get together, and then, it is too late and the son or daughter never has a chance to know their own parent first person. Although it is veiled in judgement, or family prejudices, it seems justified, or not that serious...but subjectively to that person who is the child...it is as if that child were orphaned or their parents were killed in their childhood if left wondering for a lifetime with all kinds of emotions and attitudes about what they have heard from others, impressions that may be false, no way of knowing...being haunted by it, and that natural love left completely unrequited.

A single mother is so vulnerable trying to do the work that two or more people need to be doing while being judged so harshly. She is covering all the bases perhaps young and not very confident or skilled. She has the responsibility of managing and paying for everything and working while raising the kids. If she is not working she may be in some kind of training or left with the burden of overwhelming problems and poverty. Is it any wonder she breaks down with no money or help, and she is exhausted and stretched thin with no life of her own, no joy, no fun, no freedom to be the lady she is, getting no breaks, and getting no affection or support from a good husband, and when she dares to go out and have fun, she is the victim of the finger pointing gossips. Her family may begrudgingly support her but there can be cruelty and resentment about the kid who had to come back home for help, then if she leaves to go off to make money...the grandparents get left with caring for the kids. There is not enough space, other family members are inconvenienced, etc.. Ironically, it is the same extended family members or a new spouse that may discourage visitation and create jealousy, rivalry and animosity against an ex coming around.

The single parent has it tough and can fall through the floor of basic security and welfare. Women will, married or not, always need shelter and to feed and clothe their children, women who are married have it tough too, lets face it, those years are work and sometimes the lack of patience, maturity and understanding can cause rebellion, bad habits, neglect, estrangement, arguments and decisions made in the heat of emotion or on a whim, without that young couple knowing the depth of future consequences or permanent changes that will come after.

We must be more considerate about ALL parents and help each other to make this a safer and more decent world for our children, it takes a village. Many who are older have already been through this, there are ways that retired people can volunteer to help single parents through organizations like Americorps and churches in their communities. Just a couple hours of tutoring or babysitting so Mom can get out to do a class or errands is an enormous help, or just being a good neighbor in an emergency. We can all help in some little way that adds up if enough of us just do care and share some awareness, say hello, know our neighbors. In every neighborhood, there are elderly, handicapped, children and pets who are vulnerable and a watchful eye can make a critical difference when a sudden need or a dangerous situation arises.

Who better than a WAC? I was also reading about the women vets who are homeless, I have to say I felt angry. We have this homelessness while houses are standing boarded up? What??? For goodness sake, just give some of these wonderful mothers and homemakers a right to homestead a house! They are all over the place. What, you would rather throw ten thou per house to the city to bulldoze the thing down and waste it??? Well, there are tear downs, and there are refurbishable homes but they will not be - if left standing for too long and they are in every town in every state.

No more excuses. These women who are vets are competent and strong, determined and smart and they can put a little sweat equity into fixing up a home nicely... All vets, males and females, could fix many homes for their friends and sisters who are mothers and the sisters and mothers could be helping them, and this problem of homelessness would be solved in no time if those who have served are just given the chance to go to work doing it here now if we all pitch in and contribute to materials needed. Families, and especially mothers always end up doing most of this work anyway so give it back, even it up with these empty rotting but still redeemable fixer-upper homes now!

As a woman all I ever wanted was a home of my own but I did not get one until older. Perhaps this is the root of the problem, the need for these mothers is now not when retired. For these mothers, we need more shelters like this one for those transition times and we need more youth hostles/shelters in our towns and cities too for the safety and protection of homeless children and wayward youth. Refurbishable homes, if fixed and settled in by good mothers and women who need a place of their own... and by Vets with families who need a home, a solid foundation is established, taxes and revenues come in for the local city fathers, trades, jobs and businesses come in, and the economy gets better because of constructive, not destructive change. It's just common sense. As has always been since the pioneers, We Americans must roll up our sleeves out of necessity for our continued survival and shelter, and make what works, work. For these mothers, we need more shelters like this one for those transition times and we need more youth hostels/shelters in our towns and cities too for the safety and protection of homeless children and wayward youth.

You don't have to stay chaste. Just use birth control (condoms are cheap). And abortion is legal in most places. Don't have a baby if you cannot afford to raise him/her! It ain't rocket science. i

birth control isn't foolproof. Saying no is.

Do you always say no, Judd, when you are with a woman? Why does the woman always bear the burden of saying "no"?

Because the woman bears the burden of birthing and raising children, with the Dad is she is smart about who she lets into her bed, on her own if she's not careful.

It is really simple. The woman bears the first responsibility of saying no because she is the one that will ultimately bear the child. Sure guys should act responsibly but the burden is still on the female to keep her legs closed.

How dare you suggest abstinence to liberals? It give them a splitting headache.

Miss Sashay...

If this is the case then best to stay chaste and pull the old Lysistrata because no marriage is 100% divorce or cheat proof no matter how nicely daddy or mommy behave when at home, tubes tied or not.

We could use a generation or two that is sterile though. Should we have a quota? It would depend on the percentage of population....ie. how many blacks, yellows, reds, browns, greens, blues, whites or purples in the world. The bigger the amount of population poppers, the bigger the amount that must be sterilized in that particular color group. Would you be happy with that? Fair enough. Then we could sterilize all the multiple birthers, especially the octopussies, even if they were artificially inseminated. After all, as you say, its all such a burden, bearing and raising children...um...really?

Have you had any children? Were they a burden to you? A load? If so, or if you have had no children, I think you are ready for self extinction at the end of your life which is okay too. Obviously, some people are not parent material, and just cannot take it, nor are they good material for being continued down that old family line with all those cute characteristics peeking out of a grandchild's face. We will just put you in your pretty place with mirrors and you can talk with yourself all you want about how perfect you look and are. I once saw a parakeet who loved to say mememee over and over again. It was so cute but it got old after awhile.

Okay, then, all men should have vasectomies. Case closed.

Quinn, each case is unique.

It is a fact that many caring and well informed people have actually taken proactive measures of responsibility to curb overpopulation, disease, and other personal damage both emotionally and physically during their sexually reproductive years.

Firstly, by being honest with themselves and others about sexual orientation, expectations and safe practices. Secondly, by taking actual measures like making long term decisions about physical changes and long term life plans. Both men and women can see the long term and align this to their preferences and what is realistic.

A woman can have two children in a marriage and decide to get a tubal ligation if she knows she is older or does not wish to have more children. A single mother can make that decision knowing she cannot support any more children but knows she still wants to date or marry or have a companionship with a man in the future. A man can make the decision to have a vasectomy whether gay or straight, whether single or married after having a couple children as a part of a couple who have made that choice together. This is all a part of the many options of long term family planning.

We all have seen that even in the best marriages, with the most ambitious and hopeful couples, over time things can go sour in unexpected ways after children are born. Whatever the details in all the different cases, women and men can suddenly find themselves left with the real life situation of being a single parent. Single parents and their children have extra work, more vulnerability and less security. Yet many single parents are able to overcome obstacles while improving their education and careers along the way. With care and constant determination...and love, many do a fine job in raising their children to become healthy successful people.

To stereotype single parents is both ignorant and prejudicial. To say a parent has no love or ability to raise a child based on the singular factor of material wealth or lack of, with no further situational details or determinants is not only wrong but a form of objectification...a soulless judgement which does not support life. Life situations change and Love does not have a dollar sign on it but Love is naturally real in the hearts of both a parent and child forever. If that flame goes out, or a natural connection is forcefully broken off between a parent and child, or if all is lost and pressures become so overbearing that a parent breaks down and lashes out in emotional pain in a moment of weakness and despair from being beat down or betrayed with no one to call or no help around...in witnessing such horror and experiencing such cruelty, something gets lost in that child forever. It is the capacity to trust and love.

Those who have lost a parent or both parents at an early age through separation or death know this and may tend to shun emotions and seek refuge in the safer realm of objective mentation. Every psychologist can tell you what this imbalance leads to so hopefully in place of performing autistic sport sex with sex objects where an accidental pregnancy is possible, individuals will stop to think about unwanted long term consequences, wisely taking the proper actions to avoid or prevent conception, rather than risking having to learn the hard way that no one is ever just a little bit pregnant. No one of either sex should like the idea of becoming stuck - not with a treasured and chosen mate/family, but to the doom of permanent obligations and discontent. This life changing choice is up to every individual upon reaching puberty.

I think when someone gets money (welfare, subsidized housing, free medical care, free breakfast and lunch for the kids at school, etc.), then those who provide the money (the taxpayers) have the right to judge. I do not judge a single mom who works and provides for her kids. I do judge those who willingly sleep unprotected with obvious losers and become pregnant as a result, and expect everyone else to pick up the pieces.

Azllib - How much did you give to support these families? You sound like you are a member of the 45% of tax-filers that pay NO income tax so naturally you think the government has plenty of money. And how you doing with all those food-stamps? Makes it easy to get groceries while your neighbors slave away all day just to try and earn a living.

Ah, so now we have a fine example of the guilt card played by Joyce who like so many assume that anyone with a "liberal" POV (point of view) does not work. Also that the elderly, handicapped and babies should work an eight hour day too as they are a part of that 45% someone pulled out of a hat on the radio.

AZLlib,

These folks ARE a drain on society. And what is your problem with cutting off the funding for drug addicts? Should my income taxes be used to help them get their next fix?

If you truly want your comment to be considered seriously, stop that ridiculous trend of calling Fox News "Foux" news. It shows that you are intollerant of another point of view.

Okay Laura, this is an interesting situation...Cutting off funding can bring more robberies of homes in your area due to the desperate need for drug money or drugs. When people are high or are jonesing they do crazy things. This is dangerous like revolution could be dangerous if polarization between rich and poor becomes to extreme...when there is nothing left to lose, chaos can break out. When in a psychotic state people do unpredictable and horrible things.

However, it is stupid to allow this sick situation to continue or to support it, or to be punished while criminals are rewarded...I understand the anger around this. No it is not fair. Yes, you are paying a fee for staying safe. Perhaps the best thing would be to make sure the funding goes where it should toward real deterrence and rehabilitation. Due to the amount of violence and corruption around drugs, law enforcement is minimal and why shouldn't it be when they do not want to foot the bill or sacrifice another officer, so the attitude is to let the silly dopers kill themselves off... Party til you puke but when puking and dying, eff you because a sacrifice is not worth a low life jail bird. Not very humane is it? Hopefully folks will awaken before it is too late for them to save themselves and just go away and say a big NO because they are the tricks who are paying to play a losing game.

One must literally escape from the physical and social web of addiction. It only takes a couple months to get the crap out of the body so the physical craving dies down. However, the habitual craving is still around in the psychological realm of addictive personality traits which can be worked on in therapy if one is moved very far away from "triggers" and people who make the dope accessible for a long long time. Many times the move is permanent with a total life change.

Perhaps if funding could be directed to such effective counseling and relocation assistance, more successful long term liberation from addiction would take place. Believe it or not, there are many addicted people in frightening predicaments who would love nothing more than to get free. Unfortunately, there is too much black market and big pharma money to be made which is why so many people are not getting the help they need and walking around in some kind of medicated state. Sadly, this really has become a situation where only you can help yourself by getting up and going to where you can get real help. No one else out there really cares about getting involved, used, or putting themselves at risk, but the pushers sure do like taking your money.

As for an ignorant or wrongheaded POV that is harmful...I will intolerantly refute it and prove it wrong any day.

Have you proof read any of your posts? You use almost no punctuation, making it nearly impossible to read.

"what if it was something totally different you know like it wasn't this but something else and then what would they do they just do it because well you know why they do it and if you don't your an ignoramus who doesn't know their elbow from their bootstrap but that's all well and good and I just think it's something that has to be addresed and even so it might not be the answer but God will know what to do and that's why it has gotten so out of hand because they don't know no better just like all you idiotic ignoramuses out there. you think you know it all and its just stupid what you must go through to get to the point of trying to figure it out."

Have you ever taken an English composition class? What about run-on sentences?

granny - Sounds like you support Obama's spread the wealth idea. I work hard for my money and try and act responsibly. Now you want to seize more of my money to provide assistance to irresponsible people? Where are the fathers? Where are the other family members, can't they help?

Judd... are you having a bad day? Need a hug? I doubt anyone would give you one.

judd-not sure your comments deserve a reply but here goes---i raised two children with out any financial help from anyone (most specifically their father). one is a practicing attorney-one a student. i have been ''in the black hole of despair '' and without the never ending moral support of friends i doubt i could have made it. i was raised catholic but no longer profess any specific religious faith. i do remember many things i was taught and providing for the needy is one of them. i could have been where these women are thru no fault of my own. if canada can live without state of the art military weaponry in order to provide health care and housing (no homeless in canada) surely the richest country in the world could do the same. just why are you so angry with these women--try placing the blame for homelessness where it belongs--in washington!

If you let a loser impregnate you, if you become pregnant and bring a child into the world without a basic foundation for a good relationship between the parents of said child, you are at fault. We women want liberation but refuse to accept responsibility and make excuses.

Only widows are the victims of circumstance. Most are victims of bad choices and dragging their kids into the mix.

Judd...

You are just full of poop too, is not every living being who must breathe, eat and then deficate?

You have provided absolutely nothing of any real content but been having a fun time lording it up being high and mighty giving spelling lessons and making assumptions about how many people will believe some kind of mumbo jumbo...now that may be a fun word like poppycock or balderdash, but I must ask you; mumbo jumbo...about what? What exactly is your point because your paragraph above is completely and utterly devoid one. All you have done is rudely insult and attack poor granny with some nonspecific garbage-like verbage.

On the other hand, granny has made some wonderful comments and a lot of sense. She has years of experience and has worked hard. She states that she has raised two successful children without any financial help alone, as have many women who could not collect any alimony or adequate child support from her husband, who is their father. She has offered solutions and a fine rebuttal to your senseless assumptions above. She has made a true statement about the traditions of the Catholic church.

Could it be her former Catholicism that you cannot take? Are you a bigot? I only asked due to pondering your upsetness based on the information that you so scantily provided. It is not the least bit possible to assume anything. Your upsetness could be because, as Quinn says, you are just having a bad day. There is no way of knowing because there is no information provided. All we have is your mean-spirited ranting about ..."All I can take", and some pointless rude insults so it must be that you are one of those who does a lot of TAKING. Perhaps then, it is the GIVING you are so upset about? Again, nothing specific is present in the words above WHICH QUALIFIES IT AS REALLY BEING A BUNCH OF "MUMBO JUMBO".

I thought this point was quite good and agree with granny:

"sometimes just a little help can get people back on the right track. I hope all of you religious people remember the ''corporal works of mercy'' -a mandate in the Catholic church is, 'shelter the homeless-feed the hungry -administer to the sick.'... not a religious person but think these are words to live by."

Me too granny, just ignore the rude, selfish, piffle-spewed nonsense above. Even with the lack of a comma here and there and a first person "I", your words are clearly true and comprehendable.

Miss Sashay...

Your assumption is a spurious generalization, therefore untrue.

"Only widows are the victims of circumstance."

Some women who are widows, are widows who have murdered their husbands.

As for assumptions being untrue, so is everything else you have generalized about.

As an atheist, I think it's great what the Union Rescue Mission is doing. I am also a Unitarian, and our church does many things in the community to help the less fortunate. When I get my first paycheck, I will make a donation (I have been unemployed for a couple of months, but I start a new job on Monday).

quinn----you sound like the kind of person i would hire----best of luck on your new job!! i'll be thinking of you on monday!

Good luck with the job Quinn...

Thank you, Granny22! I appreciate that :)

Thanks to you too, differnet :)

And if you want to keep it closer to home, make a contribution to a local organization that is helping homeless families. There are lots of them.

Actually since 2007 our gov. has spent more bailing out the very companies that ruined our economy than it has spent on both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It is NOT the government's role to create jobs unless you want a Communist government. It is the government's job to track down these sperm donors and make them pay support monies.

Joyce you may wish to look at the Great Depression and how programs by the government helped put men back to work. Our infrastructure is in bad shape. Our police our fire stations and many other support organizations are government run and a form of socialism. Would you rather see our taxes used for unemployment or welfare than used for honest work to help our country rather than paying people to do nothing? If you think letting these people starve is going to be a solution think again because when people get hungry they get desperate and then they get dangerous.

Could we track down this sperm donor and demand that he support his family?

When do you get to choose how you tax dollars are spent? When you round up this good-for-nothing slacker father who decided he would walk himself out of responsibility and put him either a) in jail or b) in a work crew pulling weeds along the highway, anything, to make money and totally or somewhat support his kids. Oh, did I break up your revelry, your scenario where only this woman is to be called out for producing children. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but it takes two people to make a kid! So where is your indignation regarding the father? I see it is missing. I am a veteran's wife and a taxpayer, what I would like to see and what needs to happen is for there to be free or low cost birth control that is not hampered by the same organizations (churches) that then have to shelter these families. There are tons of secular shelters that have to also take up the slack from these lazy bum fathers. You want to deport this woman? Through the father in jail with an 18 year sentence (which is when the kid can be on their own). That will fix this situation right up.