Ah, yes, it only took until the second post for this to turn goofy. This is hardly the first tornado Hawaii has seen (do a Google search), and I doubt it's the first since the global warming phenomenon has come about. But, go on and drink your Kool Aid. While I despise politicians, I don't live in the fairy tale that they are responsible for every freak weather event that occurs on the planet.

I agree with BigJohn here. Regardless of whether you agree with the science, you can't just link every severe weather event to global warming. There are other places to carry the discussion, bicfi. This is not one of them.

1.2 and 1.3...since neither of you can show no proof that bicfi is mistaken, you should apologize for your condescending and imperious remarks.

zhovti, I agree with the science; I agree with the overwhelming majority of reports that confirm the strong connection between human activity and global warming.

What I don't agree with (and neither do the reports) is linking specific severe weather events to global warming. The burden is on bicfi to demonstrate that the extra energy created by the radiative forcing of CO2 and other sources was responsible for inducing the severe weather. As you may come to realize, this is quite difficult (if not impossible) to accomplish. And, as BigJohn pointed out, this event has occurred before in past decades.

It is much easier and clearer to demonstrate such forcing on larger, longer term events. For example, a region breaking more record highs than record lows over time, the shrinkage of Arctic sea ice, the retreat of many glaciers worldwide (which far overshadows the lack of retreat in the Himalayas), and sea level rise, among other events.

Linking severe weather events to global warming merely encourages skeptics to link snow storms and cold spells to the lack thereof. The weather can change on its own; the climate has to be forced (through nature or human activity) to change.

The only one guillable in this blog are the Republicans if they think for one minute that America is willing to turn this country over to the ones that tried to destroy it.

@ zhovti sobaky- so which politicians are to blame when the climate changed and the glaciers melted?

Somebody tell the Brady bunch to return the idol...........NOW!!!!!

OMG Now President Bush caused the tornado.

I sure wish these mindless libs would stop talking they embarrass themselves.

bicfi

Unless you walk everywhere, don't use electricity,and only wear hand picked cotton clothes, you are a contributor to global climate change.

@ zhovti sobaky- so which politicians are to blame when the climate changed and the glaciers melted?

Bush. Both of 'em.

"The Sky Is Falling ...... The Sky Is Falling! " ............ Thank you Henny Penny .. It's gotta be some politicians fault ...

Michael------ You hang right in there with that.Business is leaving the USA in a small, steady nand getting bigger stream.

You hang right in there with the bs.

Oh, might, want to start practicing, soon clean air, will be all you have to eat.

On the other hand when you have no indiustry left in the USA, you won't have to worry about oil, you won't be able to afford it.

Wonder if I might ask a small favor?

When you have driven all of the business out of the USA, and Obama can't fund his freebies anymore

and all the leftys are in the streets rioting and burning, would you mind wearing a red top hat?

I'll be in Central America watching it on satellite tv and it will be more interesting if I know some one doing the rioting.

My comment was not focused on my personal views on the issue of climate change causal factors, only the knee-jerk reactions of those on opposing sides who regularly discount an opposing viewpoint by characterizing those who differ as a goofball or ignoramus.

One of the effects of climate change is a higher incidence of freaky weather events. Since this event was unusual, the fact that it was one of dozens of similar events in the past does not prove anything, as it could have been related to climate change.

Likely? No. Possible? Yes. Who are you to judge?

Thanks, oil and coal companies, for the climate change.

Thanks, politicians owned by the oil and coal companies, for the climate change.

May the climate change never damage your sacred profits and holy entitlements, energy companies and banks.

Nice, you blamed everyone except the people who are actually responsible for all of this: the consumers. The accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere isn't because of corporations, it is because people need to drive to work, eat fruits and vegetables out of season, and need ipads and cell phones made in China.

It is humanity as a whole that is causing global warming. However GW (global warming) started about 8000 years ago when man started cutting trees to make room for harvesting grains. It's just been escalating since the 1970's. Since then the ambient world temperature has risen over 0.6 degrees fahrenheit .

People DO not need ipads and cell phones to exist. Society has made it necessary to to travel to and from their place of employment but there is still public transportation to most areas of employment, it just takes longer.

Science has discovered, using layers of ice, that when the Earth has warmed in the past it is due to elevated CO2 in the atmosphere. Every years the PPM of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased. We keep reducing the number of naturally converting CO2 to oxygen pumps to make room for an expanding population. Optimum population for a healthy planet, Earth"s size, is 2-3 billion.

@not radical (contradictory handle) TURN OFF THE COMPUTER you are posting with before you kill another human! That thing is using electricity you you careless SOB. BTW, 2-3 billion, max? Really? Thanks you for this credible piece of information. You get that from the same source as your other bull-@!$%# "science"?

Maybe the Mayans and Hopis were on to something? Just saying............................... LOL!

I just tuned and and must have missed something--is some goof tying this storm to a political party? If so, why is anyone wasting his/her time answering him/her?

List of Hawaii tornadoes

• January 21, 1957: A tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Honolulu County; it tracked for 3 miles (4.8 km) and caused an estimated $25,000 in damages.^[7]

• February 28, 1963: a brief tornado with a width of 100 yards (91 m) touched down in Honolulu County, causing an estimated $25,000 in damages.^[8]

• March 27, 1963: A brief tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Honolulu County, injuring one person and causing an estimated $25,000 in damages.^[9]

• September 22, 1965: A brief tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Honolulu County.^[10]

• April 22, 1967: A brief tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Maui, causing $2,500 in damages.^[11]

• December 17, 1967: A tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Kauai; tracking for 3 miles (4.8 km), the tornado caused an estimated $250,000 in damages.^[12]

• January 27, 1971: The United States Weather Bureau reported that a tornado likely touched down on Oahu for roughly .5 miles (0.80 km), causing $100,000 in damages. The tornado destroyed three barns and damaged 18 homes along its path, some of which were moved off their foundations.^[3]

• January 28, 1971: A tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Honolulu County and tracked for 2 miles (3.2 km), causing $250,000 in damages.^[13] A second, stronger tornado,^[14] forming as a large waterspout, moved onshore^[4] into Hawaii County, causing $2.5 million in damages and injured four people.^[14] The tornado struck the resort town of Kailua-Kona, overturning cars, some of which were blown into ditches,^[4] uprooting trees and severely damaging buildings.^[15] Winds in the tornado were estimated to have exceeded 100 miles per hour (160 km/h), making it either a high-end F1 or low-end F2 tornado.^[4] In all, the tornado destroyed 21 buildings, including a six-story steel hotel.^[4] Several buildings had their roofs torn off by the storm. On Maui, severe storms also caused flooding that forced the evacuation of numerous residents.^[16] Two other tornadoes were also reported during the day; however, it is unknown if they were confirmed.^[4]

• June 15, 1971: A tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Honolulu County; it tracked for 1 mile (1.6 km) and caused $25,000 in damages.^[17]

• December 18, 1971: A tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Kauai and tracked for 3 miles (4.8 km) without causing damage.^[18]

• December 31, 1971: A brief tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Kauai, causing no damage.^[19]

• May 27, 1973: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Hawaii County without causing damage.^[20]

[edit] 1975–1999

• November 26, 1975: An F0 tornado touched down somewhere in the state and tracked for 2 miles (3.2 km) without causing damage.^[21]

• November 20, 1978: A brief tornado of unknown intensity touched down in Hawaii County, causing $300 in damages.^[22]

• March 20, 1980: A brief F1 tornado touched down in Hawaii County, causing $300 in damages.^[23]

• February 11, 1982: Two F2 tornadoes touched down in Honolulu County, each causing $250,000 in damages.^[24][25]

• March 18, 1982: An F2 tornado touched down in Honolulu, causing $250,000 in damages.^[26]

• November 24, 1982: Hurricane Iwa, one of the worst storms to impact the state of Hawaii, reportedly produced a few tornadoes on Oahu.^[27]

• September 23, 1983: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Honolulu County, causing $2,500 in damages.^[28]

• September 26, 1985: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Honolulu County.^[29]

• April 3, 1986: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Hawaii County, causing $2,500 in damages.^[30]

• May 13, 1986: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Honolulu County.^[31]

• March 25, 1988: A brief F1 tornado touched down in Hawaii County.^[32]

• March 26, 1988: A brief F1 tornado touched down in Hawaii County.^[33]

• February 11, 1989: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Honolulu County, causing $2,500 in damages.^[34]

[edit] 2000–present

• March 24, 2002: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Anahola, Kauai. The tornado first formed in the Anahola Valley and skipped along a 1 mile (1.6 km) path, ending in Moloaa Valley. Along the track, several sheds were destroyed, numerous trees were snapped and six homes sustained roof and wall damage. Damages from the tornado amounted to $60,000.^[35]

• June 7, 2003: A brief F0 tornado touched down roughly 3 miles (4.8 km) northeast of Mililani, Honolulu. A meteorologist from the National Weather Service spotted the tornado and reported that it was tracking towards Pearl City; however, the tornado dissipated before causing any damage.^[36]

• January 25, 2004: A brief F0 tornado touched down roughly 3 miles (4.8 km) northwest of Waipahu, Honolulu; no damage was reported in relation to the tornado.^[37]

• February 7, 2004: A brief F0 tornado touched down roughly 3 miles (4.8 km) east of Aiea, Honolulu; no damage was reported in relation to the tornado.^[38]

• February 27, 2004: An F0 tornado tracked for 5 miles (8.0 km), starting roughly 2 miles (3.2 km) southeast of Pahala, Hawaii. No structural damage occurred along the path; however, numerous trees were downed and several power poles were snapped.^[39]

• January 8, 2005: An F0 tornado touched down in Waimea, Kauai and tracked east for 5 miles (8.0 km). Along the tornado's path, a carport was damaged and numerous trees were downed.^[40]

• December 4, 2005: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Aiea, Honolulu, downing several trees and damaging the roof of a home. One tree also fell on a truck.^[41]

• March 23, 2006: A brief F0 tornado touched down in Kaumalapau Harbor, Maui. The tornado flipped over a construction trailer and carried it for about ten feet, damaged an adjacent small building, and snapped a power pole.^[42]

• March 25, 2006: A brief F0 tornado touched down roughly 2 miles (3.2 km) west of Haiku, Maui. No damage was reported in relation to it.^[43]

• September 23, 2008: A brief EF0 tornado touched down about 1 mile (1.6 km) northeast of Lanai Airport on Lanai. No damage was reported in relation to it.^[44]

• December 13, 2008: A brief EF0 tornado touched down in Pakala Village, Kauai, causing only minor crop damage.^[45]

• February 11, 2009: Two tornadoes touched down on Oahu in Hawaii. At 12:50 pm local time, the first tornado touched down near a quarry, damaging nearby buildings. The tornado moved through a golf course next, throwing a utility cart about 50 to 60 ft. The tornado lifted at 1:10 pm, 20 minutes after it touched down. Numerous trees were damaged throughout the tornado's mile long path. Following an assessment by the National Weather Service, the tornado was rated as an EF1. During the assessment of the tornado, another weaker tornado was discovered to the northeast. The tornado touched down in a construction site and damaged dust barriers. The second tornado was on the ground for about ten minutes and traveled less than half a mile. The National Weather Service rated the tornado as a low-end EF0.^[46]

• March 9, 2012: A waterspout associated with a supercell thunderstorm moved ashore on Lanikai Beach, Oahu at 7:10 AM. The tornado, rated an EF-0, tracked inland for 1.5 miles, reaching the Enchanted Lakes subdivision of Kailua.

You must have been quite bored to actually look all that up.

Hard Coffee----------- isn't that interesting?

A lot of those were during the time the climate control, people were predicting the mini ice age, that would cause global famine, by 2000.

Same branch of science nd very likely some of the same people.

Thank God for Al Gore, f it hadn't been for him, we may not have ever know about global warming.

Hardcoffee,

I appreciate the effort but..........way to early ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!

From the data above it would suggest the number of tornadoes has increased since 2000. There have been as many since 2000 until now as there were in the previous 25 years.

Will be on Kauai next month, thanks for the weather report.

thats dumb....

Thats quite a reach there DRB. Are you familiar with the term circular reasoning? It describes your comment.

Whoa, you mean it isn't Dubya's fault?

"He blames him for everything else."

Uh...no he doesn't, actually. So you're wrong on two counts.

Well you didn't really think Obama would do anything wrong, did you, it must be Bush's fault

I do wish George would quit making gas prices go up, though.

Wow, what a deeply idiotic comment, there, Dave. Google "Bush blames Clinton," and enjoy perusing the many things that Bush would not take ownership of, because, of course, when a Republican is in the White House, it's okay to blame someone else for what happens. When the Democrats take the White House, it's suddenly not okay to engage in exactly the same behavior.

Not all of us are fooled by your diversionary tactics. We see through your misdirection.

Bush wasn't good enough eh?

You went all the way back to Clinton.

The infantile intelligence of some of the people blogging here never ceases to keep me amused.

All 50 states have tornadoes. Glad no one was hurt:)

And all 50 states, (yes Hawaii) get snow once in a while. Climate change will occur because our planet is constantly changing. Humans play a part of it, I agree, but nature plays the most important part, not politicians. Isn't it time we stop blaming this person or that person and look to ourselves?

Read above James 2.1

Hard----Thanks for ruining my fun!! However, One touched down on my birthday!! The actual day I was born!! Very interesting!!! Does my B-day have anything to do with It?? Who knows!!!!lol

That's because the tornado wanting be a water spout again sucked out water and left the cess mess.....................

Lightening could fork on an island. Lightening happens when liquid or ice particles inside a thunderstorm start to collide because of the turbulence inside the storm thus the particles build up electric fields. When the electric fields have a large enough number of positively or negatively charged ions a giant spark (the lightening flash that we see) jumps toward the ground or another cloud with the opposite charge (positive or negative.)

Maybe it's from the earthquake in Japan... All the radioactivity that is surely still being emitted.

The "evidence" points towards a cyclical change and not just a "man made climate change". why not actually look at the evidence, there have been more the one ice age, well dont know who was burning oil to warm the planet from the first one, during the time of the Romans there is plenty evidence they grew grapes to make wine, around the 1600's there wasa a significant coolng period leading to the inabilty to grow crops europe was used to. This led to food shortages and famine contributing to the onset of the plauge, barely in the last 30 years are we reaching temperatures where they growth of grapes is again possible in the area. As we have periods of warming we also have periods of cooling, quit being so ignorant as to believe man has ultimate control over anything in nature.

Most of what you say is true. However, what you do not seem to understand is that the cycle is happening much faster than in the past.

J CAMP----- Would that be the same subset of science, that predicted a mini ice age and global famine in 2000?

The weather trends and changed were how they predicteded the mini ice age and famine, also.

Why don't you give it a rest?

simple-minded as your ability to cut and paste.

Yes I'm simple-minded when I look out west and can see these were made with water, lot's of water, when man was a just a Tadpole in Canyonlands National Park. Sorry I had to cut and paste the link below like a simple-minded person like I am so you can see for yourself.

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&gs_nf=1&pq=out+west+photo+in+the+usa&cp=26&gs_id=4&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1536&bih=746&wrapid=tljp133139535272700&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=canyonlands+national+park+map&fb=1&gl=us&hq=canyonlands+national+park+map&hnear=canyonlands+national+park+map&cid=1559462260085286570&ei=HntbT4reOYjEtwfVnayEDw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=photo-link&cd=1&resnum=11&sqi=2&ved=0CBEQnwIoADAK

You are an idiot, Hardcoffee! ... and a heathen!

Man did not evolve from a tadpole, but rather from a hundred pounds of clay, in the Garden of Eden (near Ames, IA), 6,000 years ago. You better get on board if you're going to be voting for like-minded zipper-heads and ditto-heads of the GOoP.

Santorum says you're going to Hell and Romney says rising water levels are a part of the Mormon's divine plan to baptize more dead Jews.

I can tell you’re a lib, love to call people
name, but trust me you would not call me an idiot to my face.

Also on the Man did not evolve from a tadpole, like I did
not know that!!!!!!!!!!, but you being a lib, why not say anything about the water lines
in Canyon lands National Park that proves that water was very high at one time
and if you could live long enough it will be back for you to see in about 15 million years. So if I'm a Idiot like you say so is the discovery channel

Have you nothing better to do?

As much as I don't agree with Obama, wishing a tornado on someone else isn't very nice.

Yeah, but think of the grief, it would have save the USA

What does that video have to do with anything related to this story?

Wow, Humu who? Nah, just kidding, that is some really ono tasting fish stuffed with garlic, lop chong sausage and black bean sauce then wrapped in foil and cooked over a charbroiler. Mmmm, mmm mmm, so good. Oh yeah, don't forget poi, lau lau and plenty beer.

I take it that isn't a fancy way of saying...trout?

It is the original spelling of BHO's middle name, before it was shortened because there was not enough space for it on the Birth Certificate form. :o)

Doubt if he could even pronounce the name anyway in its full form. (humu humu nuku nuku a pua a).

Whew! Easier to just say Trigger Fish.

Tad-401841- I can make a heck of a spam salad to go with all that. Double Ono.

Thanks Bilge Rat. I couldn't have said it any better. Mankind is like the flu to the earth. When Earth has had enough of us, it will shake us off like water off a dog and continue on it's merry way.

Gerg, Thank you for saving me the effort to write the same comment!!