These people are detained, but not charge. They are being held "just because they are consider a threat". Can't wait for the war to start. Israel can throw a punch, lets see if they can take one.

You "can't wait for a war to start"? Sounds like a fat Republican sitting down in front of a tv with your gun cleaning kit! How brave you are!

You beat me - I wanted to post it in almost the same words! Let them die in peace, because that is the only peace they can make with Jews. Peace of the grave. Let them take up the graves they want to dig for all Jews (and , in fact, all non-muslims).

Because every Muslim a Jewish government puts in jail must be a terrorist, it has nothing to due with Isreals racism, because jews can't be racist- World War II proves that. I mean, if Isreal is racist, playing the race card wouldn't work!

But you, of cause, know that every Muslim whom the Jewish governmnet puts into jail has to be innocent, because all jews are bound to be racist, while Muslims can not possibly be guilty of anything, because the less powerful party has to be innocent.

Right?

Will someone please tell Eli that the Jews and Arabs share the same race? DNA testing has shown that they share a common ancestor, just as the Bible says. This is a war of brothers...and as any American can tell you, that's the worst kind.

Your comment about genetics is dead on, but you should have directed it against Thomas. Eli was just mocking him.

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Well said my friend. You hit the nail on the head.

Everyone acts like they don't understand the Palestinians struggle...that they don't have the rights. I use an example of anyone who owns a home, paying the mortgage, taxes, insurance and upkeep who one day decides to apply for a permit to build an additon on the home. When at the town hall to apply , they are tod their name is not on the deed, rather it says the owner of the property is someone else (in their case, a Jewish party is named).

And what happened with the UN meeting where Palestine was to have a say ? It seems like that's fallen off their (the UN) "to do " list.

The best thing the Palestinians could do is stop screwing with Israel and start building on the Med. They have a great coast line and beautiful weather....but no....just living a peaceful life is for suckers. Better to take the Western money and put it in some theif's bank account and blow themselves up. That is the will of Allah!

Funny you should mention owning a home, Cheryl. You would probably start by finding a realtor...like the one whom the Palestinians sentenced to death, for selling another Palestinian's home to an Israeli.

You are definitely living in an alternative reality!

Wow does anybody else see the parallels between that and the hunger strike members of the IRA participated in in the 1980s? And look at where they are at now

The IRA agreed to disarm, as I recall.

Sure they publically agreed, but they haven’t as all they have done is hidden their weapons, why there still are IRA weapon caches found in Northern Ireland today not to mention the few attacks last year that were attributed to IRA splinter groups too they are still armed, it's just that since the majority have what they want they have little reason to use them now

Absolutely right! There are so many other idiotic morons in the world they won't even be missed!

Send 'em to Syria

you and your hate-filled Muslim brothers can go blow yourselves up for all I care, just stop killing other people when you do it.

What's your problem Allblabla? Is your diaper too tight again, or are you forgetting to take them from the drawer instead of those from the bucket? Those from the bucket will always give you a poopie attitude!

you and your hate-filled Muslim brothers can go blow yourselves up for all I care

What choices palestinians have left?

Ever since they were given the right to govern themselves, they thought they got it made.

They now painfully realize that isreal put them in a position they can no longer use violence because isreal is loking for excuse to jump on them ,plus, world opinion will turn against palestinians..

So, it is a matter of time some lunatic will say hey nobody is listening to us anymore unless somebody got hurt, then it will go back to infitada years.

What choices palestinians have left?

I know it's awfully hard for Muslims, but they could always try to behave like civilized human beings.

I know it's awfully hard for Muslims, but they could always try to behave like civilized human beings.

Come on, thats not fair... Everybody thinks muslims look like acting "uncivilized, wild stone age creatures". You just have to look CNN etc; What we saw in egypt, tunusia, palestine tells all...

But that does not make them the guilty party, just because they have very difficult time expressing themselves.

Let me give you an example: About 3-4 weeks ago, here at MSNBC an early morning show by Chris hayes( he is one of my favorite hosts) discussed the isreali-palestinian issue.

On the show, there is this lady "Mizrachi", very well mannered, calculated, articulate..Defending isreal..

on the other side, two ladies; One could not speak english and shy, the other one was so animated, she could not put together a solid sentence.

So, I am looking at them, listening to Mizrachi's BS, but somehow, thinking she makes a lot more sense than the two would be palestinian defenders.. Imagine how it reflects to mainstream americans and rednecks.

I concur with some of your points, they clearly don't want other opinions expressed, MSN is EXTREMELY biased, and so far everything appears to be almost like your being shown a particular set of data, alot of which later proved false or misworded (convienient) most of the time. Like you said with the representatives, they hand picked those they know would lose, AND BEFORE IM CALLED RACIST, I AM BLAMING ISREAL INFLUENCE AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION. Because we all know they like to play the race card every two seconds they lose.

So, you are accusing Israel of pulling the "racist" card, while you are pulling the "racist" card.

Life is full of paradoxes.

Abdallah, I think the Palestinans got a bad deal from EVERYONE in the Middle East. The Israelis did not let them return after the fighting was over and they had their land stolen. Their fellow Arabs treat them like dirt.

BUT AFTER ALL THIS TIME the need to move on and enjoy the coast line. If the Pals spent half the time on building a nice place to live as they spend on pissing and moaning about the land they lost, they would be living in paradise. But no...there is no power in living in peace and working for a living. Better to talk sh!t and find some fool to blow himself up.

Abdallah - Abbas "could" stop using settlements as an excuse (and virtually everything else as an excuse) and could come to the negotiating table and negotiate. (for longer than a month without throwing a hissy fit)

A more serious question though.

Do you think that Abbas hesitates because he thinks that someone from Hamas or another militant group will kill him if he signs a peace treaty with Israel (a la Anwar Sadat)? (and no, i dont think Netanyahu or any Israeli politician is afraid of an Israeli retaliation [a la Yitzhak Rabin[)

Eli I don't know where the F your getting the idea I pulled the race card from, please show me. And I am being completely serious here, I don't see it. No one no matter what race, religion, or any other of their personal affliations has special treatment, and Isreal sure demands it whenever it wants the US to do something.

Do you think that Abbas hesitates because he thinks that someone from Hamas or another militant

I think abbas is scared hames will start infitada and sucide attacks, which will give isreal reason not to continue negotiations....And the world opinion will shift in favor of isreal.

However, I think isreali pm or others currently in charge do worry about inside retaliation.. Remember, Rabin was one of the greatest visionaries with compassion who commanded and received world's respect.

Current isreali govermnet is going the other direction, a very confrontational and dangerous policy with potential disasterous consequences.

I agree with you in that another intifada would be extremely counterproductive to all of the ground the Palestinian cause has gained so far.

I do think Netanyahu thinks that inside retaliation is a possibility, but i dont think he "fears" it per se. I do think that Abbas is petrified that if he makes a deal that Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc... does not find acceptable, or feels that betrays the Palestinian national cause... i think he fears (for good reason) that they will go after him/his family.

Come on, thats not fair... Everybody thinks muslims look like acting "uncivilized, wild stone age creatures". You just have to look CNN etc; What we saw in egypt, tunusia, palestine tells all...

just ask Laura Logan

Oh we get it and the same thing is coming to America. The passing of s1867 and hr3676 has sealed Americans into the same strategy of controlling those who protest. The difference is when Muslims protest in Palestine they more often than not get violent. After several decades of dealing with violent Muslims do you really think that Israel would not do what it needs to do to protect its citizens?

In America if you protest peacefully on federal land you can be charged with a felony and the government can take any American citizen they deem a threat and hold them indefinitely without trial. Welcome to Global Rule.

These violent Muslims have played into the hands of those powers who would deny everyone the right to choose their own path. Americans are beginning to wake up to this but as long as Islam remains aggressive the west will have no option but to defend its security and Americans will pay the price for it with further losses to their freedoms.

You clearly don't understand, we need to ignore them for now and focus on the fact that were on the verge of martial law, and they are preparing for it. As far as I am concerned were not violent enough because our current government is keeping us under its abusive, invasive, and failing control. And Isreal still has no right not to say what they're being charged with, period, niether does America.

I suggest you shove that worthless piece of crap where the sun does not shine!

Support the Israelis!

I have an excellent book that may open your eyes, "The Israeli Holocaust Against The Palestinians",

I bet you keep your copy next to your other copy of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".

"The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians" by the notorious Holocaust denier and anti-Jewish polemicist Michael Hoffman II. Hoffman, the author of "Judaism's Strange Gods", maintains a website called www.revisionisthistory.org. The opening text of this website reads as follows: "Areas of interest which Hoffman has pioneered: Judaism: the anti-Biblical religion of racism, idolatry, superstition and deceit."

That must spark some interesting interfaith dialogue...

as must Mr. Hoffman's writings promoting the blood libel, calling Jews "parasites" and denying the existence of gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps. Here's a list of some of Hoffman's writings from a single page of links (the website has many, many more, as well as years of bizarre commentary on current events):

The Truth About the Talmud: Jewish Supremacist Hate Literature
The Jewish Century
Shavuot Pogrom: "Nazis, Christians, Whores and Goyim"
A Debate: Is Spielberg Guilty of Falsifying the Talmud in his Movie "Schindler's List"? The Truth About the Racist, Chauvinist Talmud
The Jewish Mentality - Book I
On Jews and Christians Living in the Same Place
Are They "Jews" or Are They Really Khazars?
The Searing Racism that is a Racist Thought Crime to Expose

In case anyone has any doubts as to the nature and intentions of Hoffman's works, they are readily available on hundreds of websites, but the reader must be willing to visit the websites of neo-Nazis and other racists.... or the Interfaith Peace Initiative of Providence, Rhode Island.

[SIDE NOTE: The Interfaith Peace Initiative reading list lists Hoffman's books under the heading "By Jewish Authors" (others on the list: Norman Finkelstein, Ilan Pappe, Michael Neumann; in other words, not exactly a representative sample of Jewish opinion. The religious affiliations of other authors on the list are not specified). Of course, Hoffman isn't Jewish; for this book, he invented a co-author named Moshe Lieberman, whom he identifies as a "former researcher at Hebrew University". Interestingly, no such person has ever worked at Hebrew University as a researcher and Hoffman has been unable to produce Mr. Lieberman. Hard to believe a scholar of Hoffman's repute would make something like that up.]