Thousands sing song of peace to protest Norway killer Breivik

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Labour Party youth leader Eskil Pedersen speaks as thousands of people turn up in poor weather to participate in the singing of a popular children's song at Youngstorget Square in Oslo on April 26, 2012.

Reuters reports — Up to 40,000 Norwegians staged an emotionally-charged sing-along in Oslo on Thursday near the court house where Anders Behring Breivik is on trial for the murder of 77 people in a protest organizers said showed he had not broken their tolerant society.

"It's we who win," said guitar-strumming folk singer Lillebjoern Nilsen as he led the mass sing-along and watched the crowd sway gently in the rain. Many held roses above their heads, and some wept.

Norwegians to protest mass-killer, singing song he hates

The crowd chose to sing a song - "Children of the Rainbow" - that extols the type of multicultural society Breivik has said he despised and one that he specifically dismissed during the trial as Marxist propaganda. Read the full story.

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Of the many people who turned up in poor weather to participate in the singing of "Barn av Regnbuen" ("Children of the Rainbow"), quite a few went on to place flowers for the victims near the entrance to the Oslo courthouse, where the trial of Anders Behring Breivik continued.

Tens of thousands of people gathered in Oslo to sing a children's song calling for peace, as a protest against mass killer Anders Behring Breivik. Msnbc.com's Dara Brown reports.

Friends and family of his victims looked on Friday as Anders Breivik calmly describes chasing down and killing dozens of teenagers during a shooting spree last year on Utoya Island in Norway. Msnbc.com's Al Stirrett reports.

The nation looks to rally after a bombing and shooting spree leaves 77 people dead.

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This man was as nutty as that Jan Brewer! They both are nothing less than racists! Jan hasn't actually killed anyone yet, has she? I would not put it past her. She is a fanatic like Breivers!

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Reply#1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

Jan Brewer is a nut. Yes. So, apparently, are you, if you cannot distinguish between a mass murderer and Jan Brewer. Yes, she has allowed people to die so she could save money and in many ways, she is a very contemptible person; but she's not a mass murderer. You sound as radical as the Rightists, who have no appreciation of nuance.

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#1.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

troll alert

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#1.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

Let's see...this monster murdered 77 people included 69 children. Jan Brewer is trying to protect her state using radical ideas that are probably unconstitutional...ya i see the similarities.

    #1.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:17 PM EDT
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    thanks for that insightful commentary. You may now return your tinfoil hat to your head and resume your day while the rest of us soldier on in the real world.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

    Looks like you have that "It can't happen to me attitude". Watch out for karma dude.

    • 2 votes
    #2.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

    Put him in a cell and force him to listen to the song over and over and over and over and over again and again and again. Twenty years of that ought to do it.

    • 11 votes
    #2.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

    On the one hand, it's touching. On the other, it kind of highlights the whole "effete European" cliche - guy murders almost 80 people and you think a song will bother him.

    I understand that there's not much else those singing can do, but still - it's just the perfect setup to make a monster like that laugh.

    • 8 votes
    #2.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

    Kahlid - you missed the point - entirely. The nation did not gather to sing a song of multicultureism, they came to sing in unison to show that the nation, as a whole will not let the hate monger win. They came together, to stand together, to sing together as a bulwark against the man who preaches hate. Unlike my country, when attacked sends soldiers with guns and tanks - that tiny nation is better than we are. When they were attacked they brought roses, in the face of hate, they came to together to sing peace.

    • 16 votes
    #2.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

    Kate - thank you. I had missed that point. I hope this does help them find Peace.

    • 5 votes
    #2.5 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

    Peace to all courageous Norwegians who raised their voice in song.

    • 4 votes
    #2.6 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

    Noelle,

    How on earth do you see them a courageous?

      #2.7 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:02 PM EDT
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      The true spirit of Norway. Peace and Reconciliation.

      • 20 votes
      #3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:55 AM EDT

      I grew up in a small Wisconsin town that was >90 Norske. I and all my relatives are of Norwegian decent. I went to a one room country grade school and we frequently sang the Norwegian Nat Anthem in school. It starts like this: Ja, vi elsker dette landet... And they do and one crazy will not change that.

      • 6 votes
      #3.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

      I think the parents of the victims would much prefer Breivik be listening to the music from a .45.

      • 3 votes
      #3.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:21 AM EDT

      "the music from a .45."

      You killed mine, so I kill you, so yours kill me, so mine kill yours...

      What a wonderful world it would be.

      The Norwegians got it right. Killing Breivik won't bring back any of his victims or stop the next demented psychopath. But maybe by treating him more humanely than he did any of his victims it will give them the moral high ground to help ratchet down the kind of anti-immigrant vitriol that fed Breivik's twisted mind.

      • 18 votes
      #3.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

      Yup....if anything we need to be taking lessons from countries like this. They have one of the lowest murder rates per capita in the world.

      Forbes rated norway as the happiest country on earth. Funny, a Capitalist publication rating a Socialist country the happiest in the world. They are also in the top five on income equality as well and have excelent healthcare.

      So why are Americans so affraid of socialism? If you look at countries like Norway, Canada, Sweden...etc, it aprears to be working...very well.

      • 11 votes
      #3.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

      Somebody please pass the smores.

      • 1 vote
      #3.5 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

      Yes, those Vikings were truly peace loving gentle folks, weren't they?

      • 2 votes
      #3.6 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

      Vikings? Yes, linking a 21st century country and culture to the whomever was on the same land in the middle ages, that's reasonable.

      • 3 votes
      #3.7 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

      And we were so much better. What with the extermination of the Native Americans or just moving them out of their homelands by forced march to settle them onto reservations in the least desirable lands. Lets also not forget the internment of thousands of Japanese Americans during World War II.

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      #3.8 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

      A Veteran...

      That was hundreds of years ago, they "evolved"...

      We should try it here sometime :)

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      #3.9 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

      American Socialist - Now THAT I agree with you on, we should try a little evolving also. Agreed. Peace.

      • 3 votes
      #3.10 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

      American Socialist - Also, maybe there is hope for us, if Norway can evolve from the barbarians they were to what they are today, we can do the same, it CAN happen you know?????

      • 3 votes
      #3.11 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

      The trouble with Socialism is you always run out of other people's money to pay for it.

      Socialism is working in Europe? Really?

      Move there and stop trying to sell those failed policies here.

        #3.12 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

        Deerslayer....

        When everyone pays their fair share...you don't run out of money.

        I didn't say Europe...I mentioned specific countries like Canada, Norway, Sweden...etc.

        The UK is screwed because of greed, the same thing thats screwing us over right now.

        Move there? Sorry bub...I'm fifth generation in this country. I think I'll stay and keep fighting the good fight.

        • 1 vote
        #3.13 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

        American Socialist- I advise you to watch this video:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8O7V-WxWQ

        Also, the UK is socialist, so I don't know how it's being destroyed by greed.

        • 1 vote
        #3.14 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

        The reason you and other don't know, Random pennsylvanian, is because you and others throw terms around assigning meaning to them when they have lost their original meaning due to misuse. England and virtually all the other larger European countries are capitalist, their means of production are privately owned, BP is a British outfit. But they have varying degrees of state supported social programs (as do we). Theirs works better and costs less. Our's works worse and costs more. Neither system is perfect, personally I prefer a system where everyone gets medical coverage. Guess what, talking of perfect systems there isn't one, but sensible discussion might let each country develop something that works for them. Something that won't happen in our current political climate.

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        #3.15 - Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:31 AM EDT
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        What a wonderful way to stage a protest! No rioting, no shouting of obscenities, no people knocked to the ground and handcuffed, no pepper spray aimed at protesters; instead, thousands of people peacefully singing a song of praise for diversity. Way to go, Norway!

        • 48 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

        Agreed, Jan!

        • 4 votes
        #4.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

        No real meaning either. Not saying that violence is meaningful. Just that this protest is pointless.

        • 2 votes
        #4.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

        Doesn't seem to pointless...

        • 7 votes
        #4.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

        Willowbrook - again, you missed the point - pointless? Hardly. Proved the point for all the world to see, they are a unifed people in all their diversity - Even tho this country espouses the notion of diverse unity, our example pales in comparison -

        As for this nation being afraid of socialism - it works in that small country because they're small, it works in Canada because their population is small relative to their country. There are other examples of socialist countries where it didn't work. It's all about mind set - maybe it works for Norway and Canada because of their extreme weather? I sorely wish I had the answer.

        • 6 votes
        #4.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

        Is this Jan Brewer?

        i agree with the comment on the protest, by the way...very peacefully, as how it should be

        • 2 votes
        #4.5 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

        Not pointless to 40,000 people who participated, many other Norwegians, and the people around the world who see an example of how to behave in the face of mindless hatred and bigotry. If in part their point was "One crazy bigot doesn't speak for all of us Norwegians, I think they made their "point" very well.

        • 2 votes
        #4.6 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

        It is pointless in that these protesters are willing to give up their Norwegian identity. Don't get me wrong, killing 77 people was absolutely wrong. What he identified though was quite true, diversity is replacing the Norwegian identity. His way to protest this caused the truth to be washed away. Everyone is focused on the killings, not the belief. I feel bad for the protesters, who, in not so many years will not be the people they are today.

        BTW - this case has nothing in common with the actions Jan Brewer and the AZ legislators have done to protect their citizens. How about staying on topic?

        • 1 vote
        #4.7 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:11 PM EDT
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        You're the nutty one. There is nothing at all alike between the two. One is a murdering sociopath, the other a hard-working politician who puts the rights and lives of her constituents ahead of illegal aliens bent on breaking the rules of the USA.

        • 8 votes
        Reply#5 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

        No, he's right, Jan Brewer is absolutely responsible for the deaths of her very own citizens, all just to save a few bucks for a tax cut to the rich, and she should burn in hell for it.

        • 6 votes
        #5.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

        I am a firm believer in karma, so Ms. Brewer will reap what she has sown, tenfold. 'Nuff said!

        • 2 votes
        #5.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

        Jan Brewer should be the president of the US we might get rid of the some of the stench that now permeates this society. This country needs taken back about 70 years when it was the greatest country in the world now its just a cess pool of garbage.

        • 2 votes
        #5.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

        Thank you franko for the ultra-right wing, fascist perspective. Disgusting and ridiculous, but noted. What "garbage" are you referring to?

        • 2 votes
        #5.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
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        They should be singing "You're gonna burn in hell".

        -Twisted Sister!

        • 2 votes
        Reply#6 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

        here in america they would have been arrested for protesting

        • 5 votes
        Reply#7 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

        Here in America, there are thousands of murders a year. Over there, there might be one. That said, your probably correct

        • 2 votes
        #7.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

        dog, .....dont bother feeding the trolls....new here?

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        #7.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:23 AM EDT
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        Why is this a ten week trial? He has discribed in court his shooting spree. Find some long horrible punishment and get it started. The sooner the better.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#8 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

        They never seen anything like this and are probably stumped.

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        #8.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:21 AM EDT

        diffferent laws and court system

        • 1 vote
        #8.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:24 AM EDT

        Lol...no they actually have civility over there, that's why they have one of the lowest murder rates in the world.

        Instead of bitching, you should be taking notes.

        • 2 votes
        #8.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

        Norway demands a proper trial because it's a state ruled by law! Justice must be served, even terrorists deserve their day in court!

        The Norwegian people, survivors and especially the victims' relatives want to hear every detail in order for them to get closure.

          #8.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:38 PM EDT
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          Breivik du ar den sjuka personen i detta fallet. Hoppas att ditt liv, sa lange du lever, ar hemskt och alla andra kan leva ifred fran terrorister som du.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#9 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

          yeah....what he just said...........

          • 1 vote
          #9.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

          Google Translate: Breivik to the sick person is in this case. Hope your life, so long as you live, is horrible and everyone else can live in peace from the terrorists that you.

          I agree by the way...

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          #9.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:24 AM EDT

          That's the wrong language... They speak Norwegian in Norway, not Swedish...

            #9.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

            been there, done that - I haven't seen H.A.L. for quite some time.

              #9.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:02 PM EDT
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              It is wonderful to see that the spirit of the Norwegian people is not broken by the evil deeds of one who has become so lost in his hate, that I fear there may be no redemption for him. God bless his victims and the people of Norway, and may God help this man repent of his evil.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#10 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

              @ derpy the 2nd

              Here in America, there are thousands of murders a year. Over there, there might be one. That said, your probably correct.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#11 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

              who?

                #11.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:21 AM EDT

                A few posts above................

                • 1 vote
                #11.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

                yeah caught that upon review

                  #11.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:26 AM EDT
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                  God bless the Norweigans!They have had to endure a horrible tragedy and have done so with dignity and grace. How lovely to see these people ,young and old standing together in a beautiful display of peace and love.

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#12 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

                  The best way to deal with the Breivik situation is to declare war on...on...someone...anyone. That way justice can be served and the Norweigan people can feel good about how it.

                    Reply#13 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

                    Are you kidding?! How would justice be served? More violence is not an answer to violence. Bring it down a level or two, please. IMO, the people of Norway are dealing with this in the best possible way; peacefully. God bless the victims' families.

                    • 2 votes
                    #13.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                    I think someone needs to invent a sarcasm tag, people read too fast and are too quick to type before realizing someone is being sarcastic

                    • 3 votes
                    #13.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:06 PM EDT
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                    The Scandanavian countries are well-known for their peaceful ways. When a tragedy such as this struck, it was an event the likes of which many, if not most, had never seen. I applaud their peaceful protest and wish them all well.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#14 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

                    Ever hear about the Vikings?

                      #14.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

                      "facepalm"

                        #14.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                        Great point about the Vikings! Following that line of 'reasoning', maybe instead of worrying about the rise of modern China so much we could just start thinking of China as it was during the Ming dynasty. China problem solved.

                          #14.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:31 PM EDT

                          Been reading about those Vikings - what a warmongering group they were. Unfortunately my paternal family comes from the haplogroup of Vikings. That said, for the most part I have found most Scandinavians to be calm, rational and caring people. I heard about the ceremony today and heard the lovely song - very touching. You don't hear about tragedies like this often in Scandinavia - my sincerest sympathy to the families.

                            #14.4 - Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:29 AM EDT
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                            My hat goes off to these Norwegians! What a wonderful, dignified way to make a stand against Breivik and his evil acts.

                            They should record these folks singing and make Breivik listen to it in his cell over and over and over again.

                            • 5 votes
                            Reply#15 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:46 AM EDT
                            GrumpyBobDeleted

                            As much as I dislike what Breivik did , it appears the people there just ignore what set him off in the first place. The fact that they support terrorist Palestians that no other Arab country wants anything to do with shows that their values are skewed.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#17 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

                            Yep, I wonder what they'll do when their Parliament is overrun by muslims and sharia law is set up? Sing peace songs?

                            • 3 votes
                            #17.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

                            Yep, I wonder what they'll do when their Parliament is overrun by muslims and sharia law is set up? Sing peace songs?

                            Songs of peace overpower all, so ya in theory it should work.. Not something I would do though.

                            • 1 vote
                            #17.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

                            Tony...lay off the Fox news...they got you pumped up on fear.

                            Muslims....OH NO!!!

                            Sharia Law...Someone HELP!!

                            Quit making us Americans look like a bunch of a$$holes.

                            • 4 votes
                            #17.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:48 PM EDT
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                            If you plan to wipe out a group of people take them to Norway, the most prison time this guy can serve is 21 years under their law. Even better, their jails are a convict"s dream with what we would consider hardly severe punishment.

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#18 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:56 AM EDT

                            And you would know this, how.... ?

                            • 3 votes
                            #18.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                            No, that's 21 years in prison - that can be extended forever under Norwegian law! So sorry you don't understand.

                              #18.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:40 PM EDT
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                              This was a very insightful protest. Maybe we should send over jessie jackson, farakon and rev. wright to stir up the crowd. Show them how its done here in the good old usa where every white felon is a raciest

                                Reply#19 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

                                Are you trying to stir something up here? Do we really need such divisive thinking? Why?

                                • 1 vote
                                #19.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:54 PM EDT
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                                Their songs are cooler than our protest songs.

                                Sung by the crowd in Los Angeles in 1965:

                                You're all I have in this teenage twilight

                                Your golden hair and pale blue eyes

                                But through all the days and the sleepless nights

                                We have never been satisfied

                                Tumbling like the leaves

                                We are spiralling on the breeze

                                Almost to the point of no return

                                Everything will burn baby burn

                                Look into my tired eyes

                                See someone you don't recognise

                                Binds that can't be untied

                                Oh yeah, this is slow suicide

                                Feelings that I can't disguise

                                And never will be reconciled

                                Oh something inside has died

                                You walk like your in a daze

                                Unresponsive eyes in a distant gaze

                                Like all the good times have flown away

                                And their memory leaves a bitter taste

                                Tumbling Like the leaves

                                We are spiralling on the breeze

                                Destructive love is all we have

                                Destructive love is all I am

                                Look into my tired eyes

                                See someone you don't recognise

                                Binds that can't be untied

                                Oh yeah, this is slow suicide

                                Feelings that I can't disguise

                                And never will be reconciled

                                Oh something inside has died

                                Vicious bitter words

                                Becoming more and more cruel

                                But you always take me back

                                And let me lick your wounds

                                Tumbling like the leaves

                                We are spiralling on the breeze

                                Almost to the point of no return

                                Every thing will burn baby burn

                                Look into my tired eyes

                                See someone you don't recognise

                                Binds that can't be untied

                                Oh yeah this is slow suicide

                                Feelings that I can't disguise

                                We're living in a compromise

                                Oh something inside has died

                                  Reply#20 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

                                  Try "Where have all the flowers gone", by the Kingston Trio or "One Tin Soldier" by Coven.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #20.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:30 PM EDT
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                                  I wouldn't be surprised if Norway is taken over by the the Muslim community in ten years. They are the sheeple of the world. Too bad they aren't the hero Vikings that used to be.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#21 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

                                  Norweigens have progressed far beyond their barbaric beginnings. They are one of the most civilized people on this planet. Still, we have the nuts like mr. B, and you heyjoe1 to put up with and put away.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #21.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

                                  Another typical American A$$hole....

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #21.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

                                  What an idiotic comment to make.

                                    #21.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

                                    Why?...

                                    You wanna know why other countries have a negative opinion of us?

                                    The answer is three posts above yours.

                                    Have a nice day :)

                                      #21.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:07 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      That racist POS should die. he is no different than any other terrorist. Kill innocent people in the name of hate. Too bad he'll serve 15 years. Too civlized.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#22 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

                                      This is good and with all the praise for these peaceful people (and they are) I thought I would add one fact:

                                      Gun politics in Norway incorporates the political and regulatory aspects of firearms usage in the country. Citizens are allowed to keep firearms (normally for hunting and sports shooting). And NONE of these people are protesting guns or advocating gun control over what happened. Yes we could take some lessons there.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#23 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

                                      i have long admired the norwegian people. they are a people of graceful civilized reserved demeanor. our current ''in your face'' style of social interaction seems to be spreading around the world. the murder of so many innocents is attributable to extreme mental disease -racism alone does not account for this tragedy. my condolences to norway and specifically the families of these beautiful young people----the future of norway has been altered by this horrific event.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#24 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                                      Some people just don't get it.Do you people think that having the U.S. Army kicking in the doors of Afghan peasants is going to endear our way of life to them?I think not.I think that if I were an Afghan peasant and an American soldier kicked in my door at 3:00 A.M. and got me and my family out of bed,at gun point,I think that I would figure how to make an I.E.D. and I would blow their arses all the way back to America.That is what you get with "an eye for an eye",you get blinded.9/11 has made this country so paranoid and so reactionary that I don't think that we are going to last as a nation.I really believe that if we don't figure out the fact that we are "One Nation Under God With Liberty And Justice For All" that we as a nation are doomed.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      Reply#25 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                                      Very well said Mr. Kirk. Nothing more to add.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #25.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

                                      StuartKirk: some good points, but I hope, pray, do not believe, that we are doomed. There is a silent majority that, I believe will bring us back from the brink. Some of them post here. It's that pesky, loud, opinionated minorty that needs to be brought into the light.

                                        #25.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                                        Agree with you, Stuart. I read just yesterday on military.com that the Americans are stepping back in deference to Afghan security forces (soldiers, law enforcement, etc) to prevent just such a backlash. Maybe there is hope for us yet....

                                          #25.3 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                                          Which god would that be?

                                            #25.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:37 PM EDT
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                                            @Stuart

                                            I honestly believe you would be hard pressed to find ANYONE here that thinks we should be in Afghan. So all that you wrote is preaching to the wrong crowd. And as far as blowing up ANY American, well bin Laden did that and look where it got him.

                                              Reply#26 - Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:50 PM EDT
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