Utah home of the very powerful _______.

PacifiCorp, a monopoly, with ______— investors.

Major share holders include _______.

And ______— wants to eliminate the EPA.

It's sad how little thought goes into this subject, "all emotion" Most of the pollution in Utah parks come from Nevada and California. Check out weather patterns and jet stream flows. Tests have shown this to be true. Modern coal fired power plants provide alot of power and little emissions. It's people in cars stupid.

He will ruin those ruining the earth.

The dismantling of America.

this country has more than it's fair share of complete idiotic morons and a story like this just provides proof as such. Who in their right mind would even want to disband the EPA? It's the only government agency that attempts to look after our future generation's interest. Let the tea baggers breathe their bad air in their living rooms... otherwise, go EPA! Make the polluters accountable and/or close em down

Soon it will be too hazy to see the crucifixes.

I wonder how much of the haze is dust. I have a hard time believing that just two power plants are responsible. They have been operating for decades, but now they are a problem?

Don't you find it strange that this "haze" just became a problem? I think it has more to do with dust, jet stream and the fact that the EPA has been filled with a bunch of environmental wackos by the Obama administration. If you liberals really want to get rid of carbon based fuels then you better stock up on horses, dig a water well and built your outhouse. I think it's amazing that liberals call themselves "progressive" when they want to take us back to the stone ages. We should rename them the "Chicken Little" party.

Hey EPA go fly a kite your killing this country.

If you want to see what coal powered plants are producing, get in a small boat without a motor, and ease up on sandy sections of creeks and rivers. In many places you can see tiny balls of mercury on the sandy bottom. I've covered over half of the river system running from Rome, Georgia, to Fairhope, Alabama, and on every section of the river between dams they were present in places. Coal fired plants are believed to have killed a large number of pecan, and other trees in Texas and other states. Even the new clean coal plants have only reduced their pollutants by 50%. According to a guy working on the problem, they have the technowlegy to do even better. So, why do we hear whining every time the EPA gets on to those who haven't implemented even the older techniques? Perhaps it's because dividents are more important than our health. On most of the river system I've covered there are warnings in place ranging from eating a very small amount of fish a week, and none from fish above a certain size, to not eating any fish caught in that area. If you honestly think about it, our pollutants are making our lives a lot more dangerous than we should have to accept. Tell you what, go down to the Gulf of Mexico and load up on seafood. It's been tainted by the rather large oil spill a few years back. The percentage of mutated seafood has drasticly increased since that incedent.

Welcome folks to another media side show to keep your attention off the economy. Don't want people thinking we can develop economically and create employment opportunities. Heck Romney might get elected then. Better to keep peoples attention on a narrow focus. The democrats are attempting to get the right to choose, the gays, the tree huggers, etc. to focus on their narrow stand to marshal enough fringe folks to get Obama elected again. Never mind the mainstream American folks who want a good job to buy a good home to raise a good family, and eat good food. After all they are ruining the world. Stupid normal people.

Though I support democrats on many current issues, I am opposed to ignoring illegal immigration and the notion that Congress is dominate over state legislatures. Except for the list of enumerated powers granted to Congress in Article 1, section 8, of the US Constitution, all other powers are reserved to the states, and, or people, as is verified in the 10th amendment.

Nobody likes smog, myself included, but it is not within the power of the federal government to order a state to do something about anything that is not interstate in nature. It is the duty of residents of a particular state to force change.

And the idea there are five 'National' parks in Utah is hogwash, there can be state, but no national parks in any state, clarified in Article 1, Section 8, sub paragraph 17 of the US Constitution.

The confusion over who has legislative authority over state lands arose because Congress neglected to cede legislative authority over all lands and things native when territories became member states of the union. These new states were to receive the same legislative powers and immunities as the thirteen original states had, but Congress unconstitutionally neglected to surrender these legislative powers.

Again, Congress only has legislative powers over things of an interstate nature, things which affect those of more than one state. And we need to get that straightened out......In the mean time, power to the 99%ers

Privatize profits and socialize losses. This is just another way to do it. Health care cost will always be picked up by the suckers down wind or stream. Remember living on the wrong side of the tracks? The coal dust all over everything? Same thing.

"I'll pave the entire United States if it means jobs" - President Bush (GOP)

Yes this is big government that plastic Romney and the tea baggers are trying to remove.

I for one will vote the GOP party into irrelevance every year of my life until I die.

Does the EPA plan on sending China a cease and desist order when their smog crosses over the ocean. And what about all that Japanese earthquake crap on the west coast.....do they plan on telling the Japanese they have to clean it all up?

I'm thinking of becoming a Democrat.

I like the idea of living in Denial, LaLaLand. I can ignore real issues and blame the world's problems on someone else. Meanwhile I can sit back and wait for the government to send me a check each month using money taken from Republicans who work for a living. Then I can drive my electric car, with batteries made from sand, to the store to buy meat from animals who are never killed and vegetables that are produced organically without the use of any electricity, tractors, trucks or any petroleum products whatsoever! I can ignore the fact that, while we all do our part here in the good old USA, China is dumping pollution into the air and the water and cheap products into our economy. We will make them rich because money isn't important in my life. I will get it from someone else. Even if China ends up buying up our country, I can relax because I know that St. Barack will lead us to the PROMISE LAND !!

The power generation company has already agreed with this! They are retro fitting a 42 year old plant for gods sake! Many companies would de commission it! I don't see the State of Utah objectin; they certainly know that the future of tourism is worth way more than a couple of out dated power plants. The fact is that coal is probably the most polluting fossil fuel on earth and if we are going to continue to use it, we need to do a better job of scrubbing the emmissions.

Yesterday I heard that Exxon was planning to drill so deep it would touch the "earth's mantle" I believe that plan would be in water 3 or more times than BP's. None of them have yet perfected emergency plans that would avoid or contain any oil spills, but the company's plowing ahead with it. We have people whose "water" catches on fire when the turn on their faucets and numerous earth tremors in cities or counties where fracking is taking place. The natural oil companies are pumping billions of gallons of water and chemicals into the earth to get to those natural gas deposits. In the gulf they have found shrimp with no eyes, that when they are cut open, they smell like they have rotted within. We have frogs without legs or more than the normal four they have. Recently thousands of fish have washed up on shores. They put a canary in mines to warn of the dangers. Maybe these are our warning signs. When we finally succeed in ruining this earth, where will we go? When we can't breathe the air or eat the food because of contamination, what's the next step?

Why doesn't oboz offer the coal industry - companies subsidies like they GAVE to Solyndra? We're at least a decaade away from any viable alternative energy resource. We have something like 400+ years of coal reserves; 200+ years of natural gas and 150+ years of oil reserves.

We need these fossil fuels until someone in the PRIVATE SECTOR developes the technology. But coal doesn't fit into obozo and the radical eco-loon left's agenda so F our coal industry and continue make us pay more for coal and gasoline.

Obozo and Al "convenient liar" Gore are responsible for spewing more "methane" in the atmosphere than any company.

More BS from an agency that stopped being about air quality and pollution WHEN IT WAS CREATED BY A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT (NIXON), and started being nothing but a political harrasasment organization starting with the CARTER ADMINISTRATION AND EVERY DEMOCRAT ADMINISTRATION EVER SINCE that uses it to merely get fines and harrass utility companies. I wish some of you people would read some history before you start with your methane induced opining. The EPA along with the IRS are two stellar examples of what happens when you put Democrats in charge of deparrtments that have the ability bully and rob people in order to pay for their social welfare bailout boon-doggles.

Tha EPA needs bitch slapped it was a consolidation of duplicated agencies on start up 1970 with a congressional budget of 1 trillion. After the shuffle the budget went down to 500,000. It's peak in 2010 was 10,000,000. What started as a government agency now has as much, or more power than any one of our three branchs of government. The EPA is now in a power struggle with the states, over regulation of energy production, probably with Obama's Chicago style political bribery of his appointee Lisa Jackson. If the EPA unconstitutionaly does acquire this power, the oil and gas industry will be regulated out of existance, as the coal and nuclear have been, wind generation will be attacked for killing birds, hydro for killing fish, and the world will be ruled by Arab oil cartels.

You have a very fanciful imagination especially since our nuclear facilites are outdated and in desperate need of renovation and repairs. And why is everything suddenly "constitutional or unconstitutional"? I guess you'll feel better when you start glowing in the dark. That should suit your constitutional sensibilities. The oil companies don't want anything taken away from their profits and if you think they give a flying leap that people are and will be dying from pollution, you need a wake up call. They don't give a s--- about you or me, only their bottom line. Do you think the Koch Brothers, Exxon, BP want alternative energy sources? China is investing in solar energy. They are years ahead of us. So those of you worrying about our dependence on foreign oil, get ready to depend on China for our green energy.

I tend to be just about as conservative as they get, but in this case, it's so blatantly bad that the EPA should step in. I've seen the haze that covers the southwest, and it's because of those coal powered plants. When I was 16 (loonnng ago), I lived in the four corners area (NM, Colorado, AZ and Utah). It was the last place that had clear air recorded anywhere in the contiguous 48 states. By the time I was 18, the Four Corners power plant had changed that, to a prevalent, dirty haze.

Slide 6, I told you I'd check facts and get back to you. Just googled this:

Exclusive Timeline: Bush Administration Advanced Solyndra Loan Guarantee for Two Years, Media Blow the Story

By Stephen Lacey and Climate Guest Blogger on Sep 13, 2011 at 11:10 am

by Stephen Lacey and Richard Caperton

It’s often claimed that the Solyndra loan guarantee was “rushed through” by the Obama Administration for political reasons. In fact, the Solyndra loan guarantee was a multi-year process that the Bush Administration launched in 2007.

You’d never know from the media coverage that:

1. The Bush team tried to conditionally approve the Solyndra loan just before President Obama took office.
2. The company’s backers included private investors who had diverse political interests.
3. The loan comprises just 1.3% of DOE’s overall loan portfolio. To date, Solyndra is the only loan that’s known to be troubled.

Because one of the Solyndra investors, Argonaut Venture Capital, is funded by George Kaiser — a man who donated money to the Obama campaign — the loan guarantee has been attacked as being political in nature. What critics don’t mention is that one of the earliest and largest investors, Madrone Capital Partners, is funded by the family that started Wal-Mart, the Waltons. The Waltons have donated millions of dollars to Republican candidates over the years.

See what I mean about "lefties" taking the time to do research?

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My post was in answer to Slide 6's where he talking smack about Obama's involvement in Solyndra. I am in favor of finding alternative energy sources. I believe the oil companies greatly influence our politicians keeping us from exploring other sources because their bottom line depends on our continued dependence. The more options we have, the less power they will have to squeeze us dry.