Solar plane takes off for its first transcontinental flight

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The Swiss sun-powered aircraft Solar Impulse takes off on May 24, in Payerne on its first attempted intercontinental flight from Switzerland to Morocco. Solar Impulse, piloted by Andre Borschberg, is expected to land in Madrid for a stopover before heading to Morocco without using a drop of fuel. Bertrand Piccard will pilot the second leg on to Rabat, scheduled to leave Madrid on May 28 at the earliest.

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The president of the Swiss sun-powered aircraft Solar Impulse project, Bertrand Piccard, helps pilot Andre Borschberg prepare for takeoff on May 24, in Payerne on its first attempted intercontinental flight from Switzerland to Morocco.

AP reports -- An experimental solar-powered airplane took off from Switzerland on its first transcontinental flight Thursday, aiming to reach North Africa next week.

Pilot Andre Borschberg planned to take the jumbo jet-size Solar Impulse plane on its first leg to Madrid, Spain, by Friday. His colleague Bertrand Piccard will take the helm of the aircraft for the second stretch of its 1,554-mile journey to the Moroccan capital Rabat.

Fog on the runway at its home base in Payerne, Switzerland, delayed the take off by two hours, demonstrating how susceptible the prototype single-seater aircraft is to adverse weather.

"We can't fly into clouds because it was not designed for that," Borschberg said as he piloted the lumbering plane with its 207-foot wingspan toward the eastern French city of Lyon at a cruising speed of just 43.5 miles an hour.

Before landing in Madrid in the early hours of Friday, Borschberg will face other challenges, including having to overfly the Pyrenees, the mountains that separate France and Spain.

Just in case things go disastrously wrong, Borschberg has a parachute inside his tiny cabin that he hopes never to use. "When you take an umbrella it never rains," he joked in a satellite call with The Associated Press.

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The Swiss sun-powered aircraft Solar Impulse prepares for takeoff on May 24, in Payerne on its first attempted intercontinental flight from Switzerland to Morocco.

The Solar Impulse will fly from Switzerland to Morocco as the pilot and crew prepare for a trip around the world in 2014. Msnbc.com's Dara Brown reports.

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Jumbo jet size? Please!

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#1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

Technically, that is correct, if considering the wingspan. However, the reality of this airplane has nothing to do with the mental image people conceive when they read "Jumbo Jet size." Journalists love hyperboles.

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#1.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:42 PM EDT
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The aircraft is clearly not jumbo jet sized, but I think what the journalist was trying (and failing) to convey is that the WINGSPAN is jumbo jet sized. As you can see in the last pic those wings are definitely approaching 747 size.

You'd need those long wings on this thing for both the lift such wings provide and the sheer area for capturing solar rays.

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#1.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

For the avionically illiterate the word "jumbo" does not refer to the dimensional size of the aircraft, rather it refers to the weight of the aircraft. This is definitely not a jumbo aircraft.

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#1.4 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

Call me what you want Frenchie, but there's no 700,000 pounds there, not 300,000, likely not 15,000.

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#1.5 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

So does another plane fly over it with 50,000 flash lights trained on it so it can fly at night?

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#1.6 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

Still, it is a very impressive achievement and a very cool looking plane.

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#1.7 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

Some people will complain about anything.

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#1.8 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

Agreed, merckx. No, it's no 747, but if it goes the distance, it's still a jumbo-sized accomplishment.

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#1.9 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

Let me interject my complaint that the kids at AP don't know that transcontinental and intercontinental are not interchangeable words.

    #1.10 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

    Remember they called the B-17 a giant airplane or a FLYING FORTRESS. By today's standards the physical size of the B-17 wasn't much more than a cheap commercial/private jet. But it was the GRANDFATHER to a lot of new ideas I am sure that this JUMBO SOLAR powered plane will introduce lots of new ideas as well. My one question is what altitude will it cruse at and does it have oxygen for the pilot or does it have to stay around 18,000 feet max? Still all in all it is a GREAT achievement and a step closer to no petroleum fuel needed. GREAT JOB.

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    #1.11 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

    Forget commercial air travel with solar BUT think of solar spy drones.

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    #1.12 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

    workingpoor - yes, i completely forgot about that....nothing like building for security...like healthcare you get blank cheques (please fill in the amount you would like lol)

      #1.13 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

      @illinois man

        #1.14 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

        @ Illinois Man ...........Understand what you read first before you "interject".... transcontinental in the first leg because he's going from Switzerland to Madrid Spain... then he's flying intercontinental from Madrid Spain to Rabat in Morocco... I'm just saying.....

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        #1.15 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:49 PM EDT
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        Bertran Piccard comes from a long line of pioneers. Grandfather Agust set ballon records, Father Jacque was one of the two men aboard the Bathyscaph Trieste in the challenger deep setting record as a very deep dive at 35,000 feet depth, and Bertran has set many records himself in "around the world" in a balloon. Good Luck.

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        Reply#2 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

        Don't forget Jean Luc Picard. The greatest Picard of them all!!!

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        #2.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

        And his idiot relative, "Nose" Picard.

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        #2.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

        Or his poisoning proctological cousin, Arse Nick Picard

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        #2.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

        or the gambling cousin. Pica-card any card

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        #2.4 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

        LOL

          #2.5 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:56 PM EDT
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          Military Application

            Reply#3 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

            A giant, super light, slow moving, solar airplane to be used in a military as a: ?

            Maybe some day drones will have solar panels on them... but... this thing is far from practical for the military.

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            #3.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

            Think high-altitude surveillance that can stay aloft for weeks at a time...

              #3.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

              ......wow

                #3.3 - Fri May 25, 2012 10:11 AM EDT
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                This is really cool, hope he makes it.........!

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                Reply#4 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                Very cool. And, hopefully in a decade or sooner we will look back on these pictures and wonder how something so archaic-looking could fly using only solar power.

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                #4.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:25 PM EDT
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                Now That's a lot of solar cells. Good luck on the flight and may the sum shine for you!

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                Reply#5 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                OOPs! I meant SUN shine for you!

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                #5.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:35 PM EDT
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                The fuselage looks a lot like the main body of a helicopter. Very interesting engineering. Please watch out for those pesky clouds.

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                Reply#6 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

                Yea; clouds can ruin a solar powered planes whole day!

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                #6.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

                Is the plane totally solar powered? Does it have no backup power at all in the form of batteries or anything?

                  #6.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                  I wonder if the flight plan takes them above the clouds?

                    #6.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

                    Mickey,

                    Thr aircraft does have batteries which are charged by the solar panels. That's the only way it can continue flying overnight.

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                    #6.4 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

                    Thanks, SingBiker!

                      #6.5 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:25 PM EDT
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                      The headline reads "transcontinental" and the story reads, "intercontinental".

                      I think the headline is wrong. The plane is not crossing all of Europe, but traversing between two continents. Intercontinental, not transcontinental.

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                      Reply#7 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

                      43.5 miles per hour? IT's cool in concept, but that is awfully slow for an aircraft. It would seem to me that you could put solar panels on a blimp and get that kind of perfromance.

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                      Reply#8 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

                      With the long wing span, it looks like he will get enough lift at that speed to stay up. Almost like a glider.

                        #8.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                        You might. I was thinking that an airship with the entire upper surface coated with super thin photovoltaic material (as now exists) would be an interesting design possibility. Still would be slow but it could reach some interesting speeds if you can bring it high enough to catch fast high altitude winds.

                          #8.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                          @ Phil, neat idea, thin film is some cool stuff! I've seen some PV/solar collectors that are shaped as shingles and can be used to replace traditional Spanish tile shingles too. Although the thin film solar tech need to get a lot more efficient first. Right now, they're only about half as efficient as the mono or poly silicon panels they use in residential and commercial applications, so you'd need A LOT of thin film sheets today. Thin film efficiency is improving, unfortunately for us though, the lions share of the R&D today is being done in China...we've got some catching up to do here in the states on the PV/solar technology side.

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                          #8.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                          Major Mike,

                          "43.5 miles per hour? IT's cool in concept, but that is awfully slow for an aircraft."

                          That's what they told the Wright brothers, but it doesn't seem to have stopped them! Those American fools! :)

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                          #8.4 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:33 PM EDT
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                          Not to rain on anyone's parade, but a craft like this was built in 1981, and traveled from Paris to Manston (UK). The name was the Solar Challenger. Fathered by the same man that engineered the Gossomer Albatross; the first human powered aircraft to cross the English channel in 1979.

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                          Reply#9 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

                          I believe you're right but going to England, they couldn't call it intercontinental :-)

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                          #9.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

                          So you want us to belive that the sun shines in England?

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                          #9.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

                          I loved the comment about the parachute....! Made me pucker a bit.

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                          #9.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

                          That's why they started the flight in France. If they had tried to start from the UK, they wouldn't of had enough solar power to get in the air. Bummer really. I'll take a good pint, and some fish with malt vinegar any day!

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                          #9.4 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:47 PM EDT
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                          If that solar powered airplane is Jumbo Jet sized, I'd like to see what word the author uses to describe a 747 or A380? If an intern wrote this story, disregard.

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                          Reply#10 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

                          I believe the author would correctly use the term "jumbo jet" to describe a 747 or A380.

                          In regards to wingspan, the comparison of the Solar Impulse to a jumbo jet is, actually, quite appropriate. The wingspan of the Solar Impulse is 208 feet; the wingspan of a 747 varies from 195 feet for the 100B, 200B and 300 models to 224 feet for the 747-8I.

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                          #10.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

                          Sure Bill, but not specifying he was referring to wing span is pretty misleading. Of course the pictures help to clarify, but it's guaranteed this story will be picked up by the wire and someone will publish it without the pictures.

                            #10.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:32 PM EDT
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                            what a wonderful airplane

                            a great acomplishment for humanity

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                            Reply#11 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                            can it fly at night??????????????

                              Reply#12 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                              Yes, it could fly all night long if it confined its flight area to either of the polar regions.

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                              #12.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

                              No, the sunlight at the polar regions is much weaker as the light travels through so much atmoshpere to get there.

                                #12.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

                                Only if it's charging some batteries during the day...

                                  #12.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:12 PM EDT
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                                  good for science and possibly military applications. however, there is no true substitute for oil/ hydro carbon fuels. Hence we need to keep invading and occupying Middle-East nations have large numbers of bases surrounding Iran and occasionally drive fear into our people about how "dangerous" those Arabs and Persians are to justify more wars, killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians so we can keep having bases and topple regimes we do not like, selective support feudal oppressive conservative Kingdoms like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait and Bahrain but then selectively only talk about democracy in other nations. And in both cases have secret and not so secret bases and ships and do dirty deals like we are doing in Libya to get contracts to their lucrative oil fields along with the British.

                                    Reply#13 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                                    Hrm someone stuck in the past. it is not that we dont have the technology to rid ourselves of oil, it is simply that the government cannot make as much money (currently) off anything else. Solar power is completly feesible so long as storage capabilities are enough. We have managed to downsize and upgrade every single piece of computer technology and have made batteries last longer than ever before and they are smaller now. I have a few friends running 50-80% from hydrogen in their project cars crudely made by mix of baking soda water and a charge. If a diy can make it run 50% hydrogen why cant a scientist with the latest capabilites make one run 100%. Its likely already been done but what can the government do to make money in that scenerio? raise the price of baking soda? no they want to make pointless hydrogen refill stations so we have to pay taxes for it. carburators were designed many many many years ago that could get 100 mpg on a 4 cyl engine with minimal power loss. VW (german) have been and still make cars that get 60 plus mpg on normal fuel yet america still struggles to get past 35 mpg?????i call BS. your blinded by the smokescreen theyve laid before you. wake up and see.

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                                    #13.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                                    Actually there is we just have not discovered how to create it in enough quantities or utilize it effectively. There are really three that fit this description:

                                    1. Solar

                                    We have not reached the peak efficiency of the technology yet nor the peak miniaturization. In 40 to 50 years a solar panel the size of a keyboard key (likely smaller) will probably be able to produce the same energy that all of the solar cells within a solar panel, or if we are lucky the same energy that is outputted from the panels on this plane, does. Solar is a true renewable resource in that once the panels are made there is no cost nor materials required to generate energy from the sun.

                                    Once we find ways to shrink the technology down and greatly improve conversion efficiency the solar industry is going to flourish.

                                    2. Wind

                                    While wind is a bit more tricky when used in the right places it can be just as productive as solar energy is right now. There is not really much we can do at present to increase the amount of power a mill creates, I think we have maxed out the design potentials at this point and it will require some kind of future tech to progress further with them but that it will eventually happen.

                                    Wind would still be less productive them solar when looking at 24/7 chart since wind is not always strong enough to move the turbine.

                                    3. Antimatter

                                    This is the one I was referring to especially with my first comment. Once we harness how to effectively create and use antimatter as a power source, combined with other renewable technologies, oil is going to be dropped entirely, if it still exists and I highly doubt that it will. Gram for gram antimatter produces thousands of times more energy then oil does. It takes something like several millions barrels, if not more, to power a city for a day. A single gram of antimatter can power a large city for several weeks.

                                    By the time we can use it wars will likely be a thing of the past though, the technology is at least 70 years out and by that time we will have a one world Government.

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                                    #13.2 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

                                    Actually both of you are ignoring some basic laws of entropy, that is you can't get out more than you put in. For example how much energy goes into the production of baking soda.

                                    How much actual energy arrives at the Earth's surface from solar (allowing for diffusion due to particulates, angle of incidence, etc.). Answer: not much.

                                    Even if you could increase solar voltaic conversion efficiency to 100% (hint- impossible) and even still you'd have to pave over all of Arizona to supply Phoenix with it's air conditioning needs.

                                    Solar is a energy supplement, not a primary source, unless you put collectors into space and beam the energy back down. But that requires an active space program and I don't want to get ripped for introducing politics into the discussion.

                                    I'm not even going to comment on the anti-matter thing.

                                      #13.3 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

                                      We would be better off if we put the money into Tesla's project of sending energy thru the air. Then the power could go to just about anything- in the air or on the ground. Its simply amazing how we search for alternatives and ignore the wonderful things people like Tesla or Nathan Stubblefield accomplished a hundred years ago. Stubblefield obtained energy directly from the earth's current, bypassing the need of paying for electricity for power. Wonderful stuff!

                                      Truth is, we have a Patent Office chock full of great ideas and inventions regarding energy that have been suppressed by various entities for profit or other reasons. I don't understand why many people haven't referred to this excellent resource seeing that many patents have expired.

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                                      #13.4 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

                                      How many countries is that exactly? We still use hydrocarbon based fuels because of 1) efficiency 2) the number of people whose jobs are affected by oil. Even if we found a new fuel today, we wouldn't be able to convert to the new within a decade. Because of how our economy would be affected.

                                        #13.5 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

                                        Stu it is possible the build buildings that are entirely powered by solar that can actually give energy back to the grid. If we build a city with all buildings using this type of solar technology there would be enough energy to power it without needing to buy fossil fuels. Obviously there would still be some petroleum based products used and the need for batteries to store the excess power but there are plenty examples of zero-energy homes.

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                                        #13.6 - Thu May 24, 2012 4:57 PM EDT
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                                        Man, that would be a bad flight to forget to bring a piss bottle on...

                                          Reply#14 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                                          16 deleted, one-line U.S. political derail from canon-2792132. Post on-topic. Politics is over here.

                                          You're suspended for a day for violating #4 of the Code of Honor.

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                                          #14.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 6:00 PM EDT
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                                          Great accomplishment, but gotta say something funny.

                                          "And in related news, a cloud passed over and caused the plane to stall crash. Story at 11:00."

                                            Reply#16 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

                                            Yeah, that's funny...</sarcasm>

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                                            #16.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:01 PM EDT
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                                            Does he have to tilt the wings towards the sun after 3PM?

                                              Reply#17 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

                                              fly me to the sun we will go at night so we don't burn up

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                                              Reply#18 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                                              Just think like computer, someday the cells that make that plane ride possible today will be so small and hold so much natural energy that the people in that time frame will shake their heads and wonder how could we have been so barbaric for so long.

                                              Good luck to the pilot!

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                                              Reply#19 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

                                              these comments are all stupid, just like their writers. Get a real life.

                                                Reply#20 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

                                                You Sir, are Awesome. Thank you.

                                                  #20.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 3:18 PM EDT
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                                                  Comment author avatarSameer Bhardwajvia Facebook

                                                  first a fall congratulation this team ...................................this is the first economy flight in world. i pray to God this flight creat a golden history

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                                                  Reply#21 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

                                                  You...do realize that with no jet fuel the explosion from the underwear bomb won't be as spectacular??

                                                  Economy? What did it cost to build this ship?

                                                    #21.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 5:15 PM EDT
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                                                    I hope it floats !

                                                      Reply#22 - Thu May 24, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

                                                      Didn't we already do this in 1990Something?

                                                        Reply#23 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

                                                        Seems like tech colleges (MIT and others) and students design things like this pretty often (planes, cars, blimps, etc.), but not on this scale and not for that long of a flight..

                                                          #23.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                                                          Johnny, I think you are remembering the bicycle-powered airplane. It featured a man on a "stationary" bike inside a clear plastic film clad plane. If I'm not mistaken one flew the English Channel. Those did look like a ton of fun.

                                                          Chudd...could we judge the "length of flight" AFTER the flight is over?

                                                            #23.2 - Fri May 25, 2012 12:39 AM EDT

                                                            Obviously I'm going by the PROPOSED duration and distance of the flight....not sure what point you tried to make, or what you felt you needed to correct in my statement??

                                                              #23.3 - Fri May 25, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
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                                                              Rather than be cynical and negative as so many here are, I say, "Good Luck & Bon Voyage". I know the Wright Brothers had cynics around at their time too but look how far aviation has come. The bottle is half full people, stop being nasty and cynical. This is a great thing. Embrace it!!!!

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                                                              Reply#24 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

                                                              Why are they monkeying around with solar power when MAGNETICALLY-DRIVEN ENERGY is much more efficient, 100% NON-POLLUTANT and there are 3 viable patents by Howard Johnson in the U.S. Patent Office! Yes, it will ELIMINATE a large portion of fossil fuel which is polluting our planet and drastically reduce the 99% American People's reliance on oil & other fossil fuels! This would leave the 99% Americans with a lot of money to put back into our failing economy! WAKE UP! BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! The hell with the OIL & ELECTRIC POWER CORPORATES, they'll survive! The auto industry needs to take the bull by the horns and DO WHAT'S RIGHT for the 99% instead of the 1%!!!

                                                                Reply#25 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

                                                                Itinerary: Leave Switzerland. Fly to Morocco (WTF) Pick up muslim with solar powered underwear bomb.

                                                                Boom!

                                                                Oh, and Rosie...as long as the 1% is paying for the lifestyles of 70% of the 99 % by paying 86% of the total taxes.....Shutup.

                                                                  #25.1 - Thu May 24, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                                                                  @ Steve...your ignorance is truly astounding. I'm an engineer, so I had an interest in the article and have experience with solar technology on my home. What life do you have that this is the kind of thing you spend time doing? Commenting on technology stories that you obviously have no ability to understand, while making ignorant bigoted, racist comments? Way to go, I'm sure your proud of yourself...

                                                                  You are the definition of internet troll.....just not as bright as most others...

                                                                    #25.2 - Fri May 25, 2012 1:26 PM EDT
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                                                                    We could also be using derigibles which can haul hundreds of thousands of pounds of products with a very small engine, whether it be driven MAGNETICALLY OR BY SOLAR POWER!

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                                                                    Reply#26 - Thu May 24, 2012 2:08 PM EDT
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