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Aaron Vincent Elkaim / The Canadian Press via AP
Pedestrians look on near the scene of a shooting in Toronto early on July 17, 2012, that left at least 19 people injured and two dead. The shooting took place after an altercation at an outdoor barbecue.
Aaron Vincent Elkaim / The Canadian Press via AP
Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair speaks to media near the scene early Tuesday.
Alastair Jamieson of NBCNews.com reports — Two people have died and at least 19 others were wounded in a shooting at a block party in the eastern Toronto suburb of Scarborough Monday night, according to Canadian media reports.
Toronto police Chief Bill Blair told CBC that a teenage girl and a man aged about 20 had been killed in the violence shortly before 11 p.m. ET Monday.
"I've been a cop for 35 years, this is the worst incidence of gun violence in my memory anywhere in North America," Blair said. Read the full story.
Mark Blinch / Reuters
A man watches on at a crime scene following a shooting in Scarborough, a suburb in east Toronto, on July 17, 2012.
Mark Blinch / Reuters
A woman sits on the curb wearing handcuffs following a shooting in Scarborough on July 17, 2012.
Mark Blinch / Reuters
The shooting raised fresh fears of a rise in gun crime in Canada's largest city.
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forget gun control how about ghetto control! look where the block party was.what do you think is gonna happen??? its always get rid of all guns these people didn't have legal guns i can guarantee that!
Yes a bad area of the city, and look at the pic of the houses, They are welfare houses, this is the type of place where the drug dealers flourish, and your tax dollar is paying for this, not to mention the cost of policing.
Scarborough for the most part is a well to do middle class suburb of Toronto. I used to live there.
That was some dumb and seemingly racist comments you made. Some of tne worst shootings ever done were carried out at schools, post offices, Mc Donald's, even Beverly Hills. All in the suburbs. You don't have to live in the ghetto to be killed by a gun. WOW! I can't believe someone was capable of saying something that stupid.
Don from the ghetto - Yes SOME of the worst shootings were carried out in white neighborhoods thats what your infering right? Is that not racist? What he is saying is that black crime is MUCH more prevelent in these areas, and he is correct. Grab a Chicago Tribune on a Monday and start keeping track of 100's of murders a year there. They are predomitantly black! My mom lives downtown is deathly afraid of BLACK youth roaming around attacking people for no reason. It's getting worse!
Don From The getto, George is right in that it is a fact that black neighborhoods have the highest crime rates. Until people like yourself and other liberals start to admit to yourselves that the culture in these neighborhoods lends itself to a life of crime things will never change.
Of course Don will say I am a racist. But no I am not. what I am is a realist and fed up with the way society has gonebecouse of a bunch of liberals who have their heads in the sand.
Spot on, Robert. You know it had to be a couple of black racists shooting whites. Very perceptive comment. Here in the U.S. 83% of all shootings involve black perps.
No that's not what I'm saying, I live in the suburbs, but my neighbors aren't all white. There are bad people everywhere. and most killings don't happen in the ghetto but if something like this happens the ghetto should not be the blame. I just dont think for instance, people were blaming the suburbs for the Columbine shootings. I'm just saying Guns do kill people ghettos don't,..
Hum... Everywere I look I see a bunch tools walking around wanting to live this thug ass life that the dip@!$%#s that sing the songs about that life don't even live. Hell I have one living with me and it is all a culture based marketing scam. And they are making millions. Retard nephew thinks that this BS is what it takes to fit in. Mean while he is 90Lbs soaking wet and sometimes I just want take this culture to him and bust his ass to show him looking bad ass is the best way to get your ass kicked. F'n retarded. Everywhere I look there is a new dipstick willing to take it one step further, push the edge of the envelop a little further. Problem is there are so many of them now that think they are the biggest and badest around and they will do what ever they want when ever they want.
Are you really willing to give up the right to arm your self to support a principle??? I'm not. I don't own a gun and never have. I have been giving it a ton of thought lately and I think it's time to add the ability to have a fighting chance to survival of my family and my self. I'm in my mid 30's. I avoid public places when with my family that seem to be a freakin magnet for these f++cking retards (Night clubs, Movie theaters,ect.) all the time to make sure my family is never put in a compromising spot. Unfortunately It happens any time any place anymore and I'm done with this shiznit. F'them and their life if they want to F'with mine. I don't have time to help everyone. I do alot for alot of close people to me for all types of classes and I'm done with these charity cases. It's your choice not to own a gun and good luck to you, I hope I never have to use one when I end up buying one, but I'm not willing to bet the devastation on my family in the process.
I agree with you .
this generation is worse than the last and without the up bringing that we should have instilled into the youth so they know no better is gone.
you see I feel as a parent we want the best for our kids and most parents just let their kids do what they want. sorry to say there are too many lazy parents who did not gain control of their children when they were young and as they got older the parents lost control .
people need to start discipline when they are young or forget it . and I am not saying child abuse. so for all you people who don't believe in a swat on the butt when your child does wrong then go live your lala land life . this is part of the reason we see things like this.
donfromthe ghetto--my god man do you really believe what you are saying? What I don't understand is why you seem to be apologizing. In any case its bizarre.
you mean like shootings at columbine (rich white suburb), or that white kid who was the son of a sheriff and shot up kids at his school...or all the serial killers like charles manson, jeffrey dahmer, and other nutjobs who were white males? ya good logic.
ravi123 - So you can list 10 white men over the last 40 years congratulations. The problem is just in Chicago THIS year, there has been over 300 murders and countless more shootings, yep you guessed it by blacks!
It's da hip-hop culture.
This will continue to happen if the bad guys are allowed to have guns. Gun control is not always the answer, because it implies that even the law-abiding citizens would have to give up their guns and lose their protection. People that do these things are nothing but angry sociopaths that do not care whom they hurt, and will react to the slightest provocation. Take the guns from them and you'll see a difference.
It does not mater if they have guns they will use knives bats rocks fire bombs or anything else like a mob beating someone to death with their fists feet. In East St. Louis IL no one crosses the railroad tracks after 5 if they want to live not even the police will go there and it is all section 8 housing there drugs muggings murder not with guns most of the time it is knives or other ways. If you don't believe this just drive there some night and see if you make it out without being mugged or killed. This is a fact of life when you give people housing but no jobs just welfare you will have crime, fix that and crime will go down. Racism has nothing to do with it just gangs and criminals who live off the publics dime.
It is so very simple, allow people to own guns legally. Don't allow felons to have guns at all. A felon gets caught with a gun, he gets the death penalty and they actually carry it out within a year of conviction.
Tax dollars funding welfare and other freebies for people who don't work, never have, never will and never will want to is what is behind this societal collapse. If men were forced to fund, care for and support the babies they make, and if women were forced to identify their childrens fathers and face less not more benefits for any further children they give birth to, then out-of-control kids/youth would begin to wane in society. The kids run wild while the welfare moms get their nails done in preparation of getting pregnant again, while the so-called men spend time in strip clubs and bars and gambling and drinking and crime----all funded by taxpayer dollars that support this depraved culture.
7 out of 10 gun owners used their weapons against family and friends.
commonsense2-1572770
7 out of 10 gun owners used their weapons against family and friends
Where did you get those statisics out you butt? There about 2 millions firearms in the US alone so according to your statisics there are about 1.25 million people out there threatening or killing or wounding their family members and friends with them. Get real and stop trying to stir a bunch of hysteria.
As a gun owner, I feel gun laws should be tightened a bit, but using a common sense approach instead of feeding on mass hysteria. PS. I am not one of those people you discribe above.
cycledude
I would have to ask you the same question. You might want to up that number by 10X. It's more like 200 million.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_guns_are_in_the_united_states_of_America
cycledude
This doesn't show what weapons they used.
In 2010, in incidents of murder for which the relationships of murder victims and offenders were known, 53.0 percent were killed by someone they knew (acquaintance, neighbor, friend, boyfriend, etc.); 24.8 percent of victims were slain by family members.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expandhomicidemain
commonsense2-1572770
7 out of 10 gun owners used their weapons against family and friends.
if that were true their would be no blacks in L.A.,Chicago or New Orleans
as the authorities going back to the 1960's have claimed 3 out of 5 people in the black community have guns
to turn the coin
I would expect very few whites would be around in the south either.
You are full of crap, Check your stats moron
cycledude
according to a july 8,2003 article
AMERICANS OWN LARGEST NUMBER OF FIREARMS IN WORLD
DeutschePresse via Bloomberg no url | 7/8/3
The number of guns owned by civilians in the United States is
between 238 million and 276 million the study is over 9 years old and your off by a factor 101
You are so far off base that it proves you do not have a clue what you are talking about. If that were true there would be 150 million killed by guns which would be half the population. If you want to know what kills more people than anything else it is the automobile so if you banned those you would save more lives than any other thing you could do. Criminals do not even come close to killing the number of people killed each year by automobiles. So do you want to ban all cars in the world? It would save the lives of 50000 to 100000 world wide each year. Do you?
It's not a Black area, Blacks live all over Toronto. Black culture in Canada is not at all the same as is the States. You are wrongly projecting your bigoted American mindset. Canada is quite different from the US in many ways. Perhaps if you bothered to visit there you would grasp it, but it sounds to me like you don't travel out of your home area much.
I have traveled to Toronto and across to Vancouver Island a couple of time and met some great people there. Of course, that does not include the white man who fillet and gutted a white stranger sitting next to him on a bus with a large hunting knife. Ever see a bunch of people get off a bus so fast,including the driver? There were about 30 people on that bus.standing on the road side and waiting for the police to figure how to get this guy subdued, while mr. happy go lucky had to bus to him self while he dressed that person like a deer. They sure don't go small up there in the cold country.
Are we going to take hunting gun and knives away now??? It is the person who makes these decisions to kill and injure,not the weapon..
It is the mind set of people today, they don't respect each other and other peoples properties. They will steal anything that is not locked up are nail to the floor. Often it is over a girlfriend or a boyfriend or some little crap they feel they were insulted over. get a life folks,it is not worth sitting in jail for a 100 years or that big easy chair we have here in US.
Um... it was a Chinese guy who beheaded someone on a Greyhound bus. Just correcting you. Not sure what race has to do with it.
Thank god gun control works.......
Compare gun death US to Canada and see the difference. This story becomes huge in Canada...duh.
Culheath-
You notice that James Beck makes comments like that without his profile picture up so that people can not see the coward/racist he is. He must not live around the hard working successful Blacks I live around in the states. He has also forgotten that they are running the country with a Black president who will be re-elected by us whites!!!! Stop the racism!!!
the truth hurts alright!!!!for you!!!!
Obama is not the 1st Black POTUS. He is the 1st POTUS, of a Multi-Racial background... His Mother was Caucasian, and his Father was Black.
what a loser!,
Yes Your president is doing to our country what you gangs are doing to our streets!
You should be proud!
where is your picture the truth hurts
I am from the U.S. and spent most of June in Toronto (downtown) walking miles around town. I always felt safe from the proliferation of gun violence that exists in the U.S. People who own guns can resort to their use in these kinds of situations and experience shows us that they will use them. A drunken brawl turned into a murderous rampage because guns were at hand--DUH!
LOVE CANADA
Toronto now looks as if it could be Chicago, Detroit or any other North American city ruined by liberal policies and agendas. Somehow 'society' will be blamed.
BS
Getting ruined by guns.
If it is racist to notice that the people in the pictures were minorities, (except for the tatooed white girl), then I am a racist. The Canadians might as well get used to it.
I was bout to say something ignorant like you but......
There will always be people who make bad choices, to blame the gun is like saying the car is at fault for the drunk driver who runs someone over. Punishing the responsible never solves the problem of the irresponsible.
I am absolutely fed up with the black crime and gang violence, if you want to be treated as equal then by God act like it!
Black crime is out of control and we need to takeback our streets, being black doesn't give you an excuse to be an idiot!
I will make you a deal, I will consider you equal when you grow up and act it!
Just another reason we should all own guns , shoot the f back !
Well said...................
I wonder about the "skin color" of the persons involved. The picture at the top said the person looking on (outside the yellow tape)were pedestrians not part of the altercation. The only person sitting in handcuffs is maybe white?? so don't throw the race card in here until you really see all the people in this.
Screw all of the thugs, black, white, red, brown, etc.... I NEVER thought that I would own a gun in my life but my whole family shoots now and when the scum come knocking at my door they will have picked the WRONG house!!! They need to cut the welfare and close the border. If the illegals are here for work than they can all work to finish building the border walls from the Mexico side & when its done they will all be home, south of the wall.....
Ratacole - trust me: this wasn't Mexicans doing the shoting.
to those in Toronto
it only a 2 hour drive to buffalo,ny or for the real good fire arms it 4 hours to detroit.
buying in the USA will help our economy and keep jobs here for Obama