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Kadir van Lohuizen / NOOR
Samad and Dina Jabbo dance at a banquet organized for the Iraqi community in El Cajon, Calif. Samad, 40, his wife Dina, 37, and their daughters Monica, 16, and Milano, 12, and son Antonio, 7 months, arrived in the United States in June 2010 after living in Damascus, Syria, for four years. They are Christians from Baghdad and have green cards. They felt their lives were in danger when they lived in Iraq.
Photojournalist Kadir van Lohuizen traveled from the southern tip of South America to the far reaches of Alaska on the North American continent to explore migration in the Americas. What he found both supported and defied stereotypes, which he reported on a website and an app for iPad called Via Panam.
“Little Baghdad” is the nickname for El Cajon, a suburb of San Diego that is home to a high concentration of the 116,000 Iraqis living in the United States. The Kurds came in the late 1980s, followed later by Sunnis, Shiites and Christians. They live together peacefully, far away from the violence in Iraq, but life is far from easy. Many lost their social status and networks of family and friends when they emigrated, and they often struggle to find work. Xenophobia is also an ever-present obstacle.
Kadir van Lohuizen / NOOR
Monica Jabbo opens her locker at school in El Cajon. She and her sister Milano love being in the U.S. but it's still a struggle for the family -- they have to finance day-to-day life and pay their rent, which is $1,200. Because Monica's father Samad is unemployed, the family has to rely heavily on government assistance -- $760 per month.
The United States admits thousands of Iraqis each year as refugees -- although that is only a fraction of the number that Iraq's Middle Eastern neighbors and some European countries have absorbed. Nonetheless, their numbers in the San Diego area rose rapidly after the American invasion of Iraq. El Cajon, around 15 miles northeast of San Diego, has almost 7,000 Iraqi-born residents out of a total population of 100,000. A further 3,000 have Iraqi ancestry, according to the 2010 U.S. Census.
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The Baghdad cafe in El Cajon, above, is a popular tea house frequented by many Iraqis in the community.
In recent years, Iraqi stores and restaurants have been cropping up across the city, the Arabic script signs above their doors quickly becoming part of the city's scene. But the growing Iraqi presence has also brought some unsavory characters: According to authorities, members of Iraqi criminal organizations from Detroit are now active in El Cajon. In late 2011, police raided an Iraqi club in search of drugs and weapons.
Kadir van Lohuizen / NOOR
Mohammed Mustafa, 68, in his store in El Cajon. Mustafa and his wife Nasrin, 58, have eight children, two of whom live at home. They are from Dohok in Iraqi Kurdistan. In August 1988 they fled to Diyarbakir in Turkish Kurdistan, and in September 1991 they arrived in New York. They made their way to El Cajon in June 1993. Mustafa feels he has made a mistake by coming to the U.S. and not returning to Kurdistan, where the economy nowadays is growing. The family recently opened this 'Community Fashion' store but business is very slow, he says.
Many Iraqis in El Cajon say xenophobia is common, and some fear being the victim of a hate crime. It is not an unfounded worry -- a 32-year-old Iraqi woman was murdered in El Cajon in what appeared to be a racially motivated attack in March. Next to her body police found a note threatening her family. "Go back to your own country, you're a terrorist," it read.
Kadir van Lohuizen / NOOR
Breakfast at home. Khattab Aljubori, 37, and his wife Suhad, 31, frequently speak to their family in Iraq through Skype. The computer is parked near the table so that they can have breakfast 'together'. The family, including children Ibrahim, 4, Awos, 3, and twins Mustafa and Fatima, 6 months, as well as Khattab's mother Nhanaa, 61, came to San Diego in November 2010 from Babylon, Iraq. Khattab worked for the U.S. in Iraq as a computer and info system administrator and was often threatened for being a U.S. agent. In the end it became so dangerous for him and his family that they sought asylum in the U.S. and were granted visas.
Iraqis in El Cajon make an effort to support their fellow immigrants. Each year the Iraqi community organizes a large celebration that brings everyone together. Local businessmen meet one another and newly arrived immigrants learn about life in America from their established countrymen.
Kadir van Lohuizen / NOOR
Khattab with his family in a park in San Diego. While they lived comfortably in Iraq, they find it much harder to be successful in the U.S. and they say they feel they've lost their dignity. Khattab likes the U.S. but his wife wants to go back to Iraq. She says she feels locked up and misses her family. Finances are also an issue -- Khattab earns some money repairing people's computers but they depend on government support and sometimes find it difficult to pay the rent.
K. van Lohuizen / NOOR
From Colombians fleeing war to North Americans retirees moving to Nicaragua, a photographer's journey from Chile to Alaska explores both the expected and unexpected patterns of migration in the Americas
Experience the entire journey, from Chile to Alaska, by exploring the slideshow at right, the Via Panam website or by downloading the app for iPad.
More Photoblogs from the Migration in the Americas series:
Mom works in US while family stays in El Salvador
US retirees flock to Nicaragua
On the run from water in Panama
Bolivia hopes for windfall from producing lithium
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ohoh,this is gonna be a bad post.
Did you see the women in that photo? Wow, the Iraqi's got some hefty women. But if that's how the men like em...
Iraqi men are fat too...don't target the women please....I was just going to say how women in this country are still preyed upon and we need to work on women's rights first....then I read your post....targeting women and making a comment about their appearance....Like women have to be thin to have worth? You are just an example of how I feel we need to do a lot of work in this world...your way of thinking is outdated and sexist....
H sensitive much are we? I was just saying if Iraqi men like large women, well to each their own. Next time I'll turn a blind eye to what is obviously in front of me so I don't offend anyone.
Psttttt.... I don't care if other Americans are fat. I'm not and that's about all I have control over in that department.
Actually I think the Dutch are the fattest people statistically. They are also the tallest. Go figure.
Hey, I'm not hosing anyone down here, but the big butts and thick legs on all the heavy women, especially in that first photo, was the first thing I noticed also. But like I said, I'm not knockin it, afterall, fat bottomed girls you make that rockin world go round. Seriously though, I just have to wonder if an American diet has anything to do with it. Most all the ME women that live in the ME that you see in news photos are slim, or at least seem to be.
Yep, but on the other hand, we promised these people freedom, not a rose garden. They will just have to struggle just like we Americans do. Live from pay check to pay check. That is if you have a pay check coming in. I don't begrudge them being here,they have a right to a better life and freedom as we do. They will have to take the good with the bad, just as we do and hope and pray Americans wakes up. Freedom is not free. What I do object to is that we have plenty of starvying, homeless families with children, living on the streets and not by choice., I know a family here in my town, trying to work at a job and living in their van, until they can save enough to live in a decent house instead of a rat trap. This is not right. Our economy put them in this class. No jobs and no decent medical care. There are millions of American whose childen go to bed hungry.
Excellent comment, Frankie Little (#2).
I agree with you 100%!
You are,
absolutely, right once here they must struggle like everyone else. However,
people everywhere (and, especially, in America because we have the upper hand
and will always be a "melting pot" ) must struggle for and will,
greatly, benefit from is that: We must come to terms with and create
institutions, ways of living that will enable all of our "types,"
"races" to adequatley live together. We must accept that our creator
made us to fit together as the pieces in a puzzle. Like the fish in the sea our
"types" were created for a reason. We are all evolving together and
all our "types" experience
continual rebirths. We must accept this and that we exist together; We
must MAKE for ourselves what we need for
survival. We cannot just let the "strongest" prevail. We must plan
for our coexistence. This does not mean we would have a welfare state. It just means we accept our state of being which our creator made.
I remember a letter an immigrant sent home to his family after living in America a short time.
"They told me the streets are paved with gold. When I arrived I saw they were not paved with gold, they weren't even paved and they wanted me to pave them."
Welcome to America.
I didn't promise them anything. I went along with my government when it told me if we did not attack Iraq chemical,biological, or weapons of mass destruction would be acquired by Islamic Jihadists. Why didn't we just add Iraq as a state or commonwealth? There by giving them freedom and solving our security issue. Demockracy in the middle east by proctor is the only way at this time.
At least they get Government support about 10% of unemployed Americans are fighting to get on welfare, not counting the 8% that have unemployment coming in or the ?% that is already on welfare, an they never even paid into the system why are we accepting immigrants that have no way of supporting themselves, that is a recipe for failure, and we are dumping billions into their economy in Iraq so they can live a decent life in their own country with the exception of those who's life might be in danger we need to toughen up on some rules. we can't continue in this respect.
This is in response to frankie little. I am american currently living in El Cajon (I mean little Bagdad) and I for one know what is mgoing on. The reason the family that you mentioned in your story is living in the van is because the Iraq's who come here get free Medical, free rent, food stamps and a free car all payed by guess who? Why me a tax payer (and you), go to the local welfare office and it is all wall to wall Iraq's! Most of them in designer clothes and let's not forget their smart phones. Go to the local Macy's store and it's 80% Iraqi. This is where they shop to buy their clothes! they can and do receive business loans and if their business fails (which they ususally do) they don't have to poay it back! In truth they don't have to pay anything back! Boy what a great deal! but unfortunately, I cant receive any of that assistance (I worked my whole life) because I am an American. What really upsets me is their entitlement attitudes, they act as if this is their just due! They are extremely rude and look down on all other racesd. they are nasty and rude to anyone who is not Iraqi, they refuse to associate with any who are not their their kind. But hey lets keep paying for them to shop at Macy's, and free medical care let's not forget that, after all they feel they feel they deserve it!
I too do not begrudge them the right to be here, but they must struggle as the rest of us do. My son, who is disabled only receives $400 in assistance from the government. How dare the government give more assistance to imigrants than to my son who was born of parents who came to America in the 1500s. And yes I can trace my heritage back that far.
We eat at this small Mediterranean restaurant owned by an Iraqi family. He helped the US during the invasion and, when he started receiving death threats for aiding the US, they didn't offer him any assistance. They killed his 2 oldest sons and then the US moved offered him a home. People shy away from the restaurant because of the Arabic signs.
He and his family are good and decent people that others refuse to give a shot. He payed a heavy price for assisting the US and our citizens hate him because of his origin. Can't be the food--it's exceptional, as is the service.
Did somebody twist their arms to flee their Utopia countries to come here to "suffer"? The way I see it, they can all return to the Utopia's they left.
Curious...These people don't appear to be starving....and from the article they have and are having now ever larger families. It might seem wise to limit your family if you have little income. And the article quotes several of them saying they wish they were back in Iraq. So why don't they go back there and contribute something worthwhile to thier own country? And if one would research carefully the situation noted in the article about the Iraqi woman who was killed...you might learn that she was actually killed by her husband who quickly fled to Iraq with thier teen daughter. Her crime was allowing her daughter to be "too westenized".
Yes someone twisted there arm in a sense. No one is protecting the Christian communities in Iraq and it is stay there and die or move somewhere where they will not be killed. Many moved here to the USA where they are safe from being persecuted for their religious believes, but they are still being persecuted for their ethnic and cultural backgrounds. If it was safe, most would move back to Iraq in a heartbeat, but it is not, so they do what they can.
Btw, What makes you think Iraq is a "Utopia" right now? It is somewhat stable, but lacks personal security, jobs and has a corruption problem. Far from a Utopia in my mind.
STRUGGLING___BS !!! From the pictures, looks like they are doing WELL on the US Taxpayer's money !! This article is CRAP!!
If that one family only gets assistance of $750 I certainly don't know how they manage. There must be more to the story. They must get free housing, food stamps, etc. The reason I say that is because my house is paid for, I live really modestly, can't afford a lot of things and still couldn't make it if my daughter didn't live with me to help pay some of the bills. And I live in a part of the country that isn't nearly as expensive as California.
PSTTTTTT: play the race card when all else fails--FOOL!! Pictures are worth a thousand words--no way can there be any true and logical reason for this article!!
These folks--don't see any work dirt on their hands or clothes??? They are just another entitlement society!! I have been personally acquainted with so called middle east Christians---they are much like the muslims when it comes to social values!!
get the f*&ck out of our country you f$%cking sand ni@@ers!!!! bringing your muslim bs over here, using our religious liberty against us!! get out!!!!
I have a better idea. Why don't you leave if you hate our freedoms so much. I understand the the USA will always have bigots, but I also understand how little the help anyone. Your just like the a-hole that murdered an innocent women and then left a note calling 'her' the terrorist. Your the terrorist our nation could do without. All your hatred does is add to the worlds evil.
Do us all a favor. If you can't open your mouth without spewing hate and evil, please close it.
Why are the idiots bashing muslims? The article said they were christian. So the muslims want to kill them over there & you ignoramuses want to kill them becasue you think EVERYBODY from "over there" is radical muslim. Theyre no different than the blacks, hispanics, & other groups that are trying to escape all the bad $hit thats happening in the world. Also blacks didnt ASK to be brought over here. But capitolists saw a way to exploit (for finanacial gain) & it backfired. End result folks should think about the long-term results of short term payoffs.
Yeah, and the countless Caucasians that are doing likewise. Spare me the us-against-them, horse blinders mentality. Yes, blacks (as in slaves) didn't ask to be brought here, but were sold by blacks to white landowners. Blacks in America today can live off the fat of the land, enjoying freedoms afforded to everyone here, but decidedly bring most of their woes upon themselves. I'm of Irish descent, but you don't hear me going on and on every 5 minutes about the countless Irish that were starved off their land by the British or the fact that NINA (No Irish Need Apply) signs riddled the streets of America at one time. Quit whining about it, it's 2012 for god's sake.
pstttttttttt your key board stuck??
Frankie Little But we promised them freedom in Iraq not here in the US , if that was the case , we could have kept Saddam in power and brought the ones that do not like him here like we did now , and saved all the lives of our heroes and the lives of hundreds of thousands of civilians and the destruction of a sovereign country, But what this post should clear one thing that most of you on this site been missing for a while now , Syria and Assad took in a million Iraqi refugees and treated them very well , and Syrian never asked for assistance and the honorable UN did not care about them , and off course I did not see Hillary McCain , Lieberman , Graham and even Mr. Obama and Bush back then Rushing to help these refugees which most were Christians , But NOW there is 200,000 Syrian refugees in Turkey , which most of them are the Muslims brother hood and Alqiada thugs , and OH boy Hilary and the above Gang are going crazy , not to send food and help , but to send Arms and salaries to these thugs , but off course the Saudis and Qataris ( Alqaida Masters ) doing most of the spending on our arms companies and Cheney's Black water Mercenaries , and off course our media doing the cover up for all these fine , fine people and good doers . Its a shame , I guess before you know it , we will have the Syrian refugees here and Obama and Hillary will give them our tax money and the people that getting screwed in the process ??? you guess it , THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND OUT BRAVE TROOPS .
Did you see where some Radical Islamists are going to be honored guests at the DNC convention? Google "Jummah at the DNC". I think the whole Democratic Party has lost their collective minds. What about separation of church and state? Are they going to invite a group of Christians? Doesn't Muslim equate to Islamic?
bevvar 7.1:
Where did you get this information??? Where's your proof/reliable source????
Don't spout the ridiculous separation of church and state since obviously, the Republicans don't believe in that.
Jean321 hope this helps
I don't begrudge the opportunity, my problem is that we cannot take care of our own. Then too, people come here and have sooo many children. Mark my words, in the future we will be packed like sardines. I have no solutions.
Democat nobody asked you to solve all the worlds problems. so just shut up if you have no "solutions".
We caused their problems so technically we are responsible for the results. Iraq is no longer safe for Christians. The Sunni and Shiite religious war was held in check (brutally) by Saddam. Now the Shiites hold most of the power and there is no protection for the Christians. They have a choice. Stay and die or move and live. They moved, but still love their home country.
A good Muslim is a dead Muslim. Kill em all and let God sort them out.
A good racist, hateful, ignoramus is a dead one. BTW, many of these Iraqis are Christians, but to a human being with compassion and a soul, that shouldn't matter. You make me sick with your stupidity and I feel sorry for you.
Let's kill all the Christians and let god sort that out too. The world would be better if only us atheists were here. You are a moron drad.
This is another legacy of the unnecessary George Bush war.
And you're a hypocritical, moronic bigot, offtheoil.
mrshin
What about my comment makes me a hypocrite? Or a bigot? If drad wants to kill all the Muslims and let his God sort it out why not kill all the Christians and let God sort that out too, not afraid of the sorting out part are you? The problem with religion is that everyone thinks that their particular brand of it is the best and that the other brands should be stamped out.
You do know that a lot of these people are Christians?
I mostly agree with your comment drad...Why this country continues to bring in this ideological death cult that hates christians and jews to varying degrees is beyond me. Everyone of these satan worshipers want to impose their lawless form of government (Sharia law) down our throats. Send them back to their own hellhole or put them on some far away island like Antartica.
We don't need or want anymore "refugees/immigrants" !!! The vast majority are rceiving government assistance, job training, housing, etc. Of which they don't deserve nor have they earned. And instead of assimilating in to American society, they isolate themselves into their "own communities". As a disabled American Veteran, whose heritage is Czech, English and Irish. I've served my country, active duty and reserves, of which I've been waiting 9 years. For just compensation from the VA for conditions caused by or exasperated by my military service. Myself as well as my fellow Vetrans do not receive the Mental Health Care we need to heal and be successful in life. The focus has never been to provide for ALL our needs !!! We only voluntarily risked our lives, limbs and minds for OUR country. Only to be ignored and last in line, and have these "refuges/immigrants" be first in line.
Your a saint bro...The U. S. and pro muslim Odumbo have their priorities screwed up. If I meet you on the street I will always take the time to hear you out because I do care....
It isn't a solution but tighter immigration policies would help. The main problem we have with immigrants today, especially musIims, is the refusal to assimilate as immigrants before them would do. Today, too many immigrants desire for America to assimilate to suit their cultures they were supposed to have left behind for a new beginning. This "african american", "latino american", "musIim American", "(fill in the blank) american" garbage needs to stop. You are either an american or you are not.
I supposed
Irish Americans and Italian American fully assimilate too? I live in Chicago and on every block
is a different nationality, who have different customs and still speak their
native language, and they are not all brown or black like you claim. Most are
polish, Irish, and Italian, and have absolutely no interest in letting go of
their national heritage.
All that is
required to be a good US
citizen is following the rule of law and no race or nationality has a corner on
that.
A healthy respect for your heritage is good. Trying to turn the US into the country of your origin is unacceptable.
Are you kidding me? I have been living here all my life, I am white, and I am still struggling.
Ok, wait they "struggle" to pay $1200 rent in California? Why does every foreigner want to come over here & start at the top? I live in a moderately safe mixed neighboorhood & my mortgage is less than $700. Sure there is trade-offs to living in surburbia. But there are other places they can live thats cheaper. Likely not in California. So you can only feel but soo sorry for someone thats living where they cant afford it. Common sence says move until you can afford it. INS should do more to get that point across to folks that want to just set up shop in the ritzy areas.
It mentioned that we don't accept as many as Europe does. That seems to insinuate that we should. Well, Europe is paying the price. We make immigration quotas for more reason than just being mean. When the majority of a country's crimes are being comitted by a minority (Muslims in the UK) it's obvious something is wrong in the planning. The United States is more picky about who it lets over here, and it has worked for us. And yes, xenophobia is everywhere, but you don't see the US outlawing veils (France and Turkey) or having huge amounts of hate crimes. At least here if you get murdered you're shot instead of being bludgeoned to death or pipe bombed.
Not picky enough, especially since Obama has been president. He has allowed thousands and thousands of Muslims from Somalia and Palestine to immigrate here. Do you think that they are here because they are fond of the US and want to become Americans? Most of the Somalians went to Minn. I think we shouldn't take anyone for about 10 years.
And here's a few things they forgot to mention in the article: (1) during last year's blackout, Iraqi market owners jacked up the price of ice and gasoline, (2) as soon as police evidence began to show that the Iraqi woman was probably murdered by someone she knew, most likely a family member, the family and the Iraqi community circled their wagons and stopped talking to the police and the media, and (3) these people make no effort to assimilate into the community, refuse to follow local rules, and are usually rude to anyone trying to do business with them. It's so much easier to blame the Americans who are have provided them refuge and freebie services and tax dollars than to look at themselves and ask what contributions they might make to this country.
and how safe are our soldiers, or any Americans for that matter, in Iraq?
One million to 1.8 million legal immigrants come here every year with another 500,00 to 800,00 illegal invaders. We just can't continue at this pace.
The couple in this story have immigrated legally to the U.S., and have a Visa to be here. They are among the minority of Christian Iraqi's. Most Iraqi's are Muslim.
I believe the Muslim faith to be the most dangerous cult on earth. It's treatment of women and young girls within the faith is truly disguting. A faith that preaches murdering the infidel's, which is basically everyone but a Muslim, and the performance of gender mutilation on prepubescent girls. The entire goal of the faith is to endoctrinate the rest of the world to their effed up faith. Most women worship the Muslim faith through fear of honor killing. Which is a practice performed by the families of wayward Muslim women. They can kill a female family member for becoming to Western.
I personally disagree with any form of legal immigration right now. There should be a complete moritorium on immigration until America has financial health again. We do not have jobs for the 22 million ILLEGAL ALIENS we have here now, let alone natural born American citizens. Apparently our government is to weak to stop it from happening, so why have legal immigration, that we can control... Every legal immigrant has the right to bring over 5 family members from their homeland. These are people who recieve welfare from social security every month. The Social Security that hard working middle class Americans have paid into. These family members of legal immigrants cannot speak our language or contribute anything as a new American.
They do not want to stop it. Look up what the Grid is and what it can accomplish right now. (England security).
First and for most: All public religion should be banned. You can worship whatever or whoever you want but keep that @!$%# in your house and to yourself. I know we are about freedoms here in the US, but where do we draw the line? This free loving, anybody and everybody can come here and do as they want needs to stop. Im all for people having a better life for their families and all, but this attitude is killing this country. When your here your American and if you dont like that then leave. I know we are all immigrants but Im not flying a Norway flag outside my door which is where my family came from. If I was to go to a different country and waive an American flag around and demand more rights, chances are Id be shot. Shot dead by the very same people we let flow into this country everyday. When I was a kid I use to hear from my Grandpa" only buy American". Now days I think Im the only one who believes in that. Where is that American pride? There was a time when the world looked up to the US, looked to the US for hope and salvation, respected her thoughts and idealogies. The rich of this country have sold all that down the river. The rich do not seem to care about what took decades of hard work,blood shed, and sweat by their grandparents to build. I think some of these same people probably sold their first born child for a buck. This once great country is turning into a complete joke. Somewhere in this country is the greatest president this country has ever seen, he/she is just to poor to get there.
The store where I shop is run by Iraqi's who moved here and they are really nice people and enjoy talking to them and know they are honest as the day is old. Wish we could replace illegal mexican's with these people.
Thats like asking the HENS, if they want to invite the " FOX TO DINNER "...HaHaHa!... LOL!
I'll go one better, ben...
Lets accept the illegal mexicans, and Iraqis, and send those freeloading Americans that refuse work, to Mexico.
Hey, thats a great Idea! when you "LEAVING ? ".... HaHaHa!
It would have been cheaper to set them up in Mexico. Our democratic neighbor to the South has the climate that mimics Iraq's. Of course they would have to learn Spanish. This is a great idea because Mexico needs educated and industrious people to get their economy back into a civilized industrial and service oriented society.
I'm just wondering, how long it will be, before they start, with their " ISLAM CRAP! "...
When they believe that they are the majority.
Iraqis are not that nice, like they make themselves out to be...
America is a melting pot, however some chunks take a little longer to disolve and blend in with the main body.
REC-2439781: Yeah! Those native Americans sure are taking a long time.
I am a U.S. citizen living in El Cajon (or should I say little little Bagdad) and am tired of hearing about the poor little Iraqi's. Poor is the last thing they are! What a great deal for them! When they get here they they all get free rent, food stamps, free medical and free cars! They can and do apply (and receive) business loans and if the business fails they don't have to pay the money back! Walk into the local macy's store and you'll see about 80% are nothing but poor Iraqi's and when you see them they wear designer clothes and perfume! Walk into the El Cajon welfare office and it i wall to wall Iraqi's wearing designer clothes and almost all with their smart phones! What really makes me upset is their entitlement attitude! They act as if free medical, free rent (and cars) are their just due! While there are Ameican's losing their homes and have no access to medical care! But that is all right they feel that the deserve it. Just keep paying out my (and yours) tax dollars!
Cmon now Jennie, I believe you might just be stretching it out a little, or at least spreading rumors, with the free car jab, and also that they don't have to repay gov. business loans. I'll be the first to admit how generous the gov. is with tax payer handouts to foriegners, but cmon now, how about some proof on those two jabs?
In response to midnightridr, prove what I am saying? Why go down to the local welfare office and prove me wrong! I happen to know three Iraqi women who havbe lived here for at least six years, grandma iraqi came here and immediately got on social security snfd medicare she is i n her 50's and nothinginwrong with her why she goes to the gym everyday goes to the salon to get her nails done and hair. along with both her daughters and they all shop at Macy's, see the bags all the time! Only one daughter has a part-time min. wage job. where are they, getting the money from? And oh by the way unless your an Iraqi male, your not considered good enough, you prove me wrong!
What you just said still doesn't back up the claim of free cars and free business loans. Although, in a way I really don't doubt it knowing full well the gov. stance on illegal immigration, but it just seems a little far fetched to me, that's all.